Is the massacre of Vendée a genocide?

Is the massacre of Vendée(french revolution) a genocide? Hardcore French leftist say no and hardcore right say yes, where is the truth?

>where is the truth?
Somewhere inbetween, as ususal.

If it is, then the 1942-1944 American firebombing campaign on Japanese civilians is one as well

>Genocide is intentional action to destroy a people (usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group) in whole or in part.
>Initially, the war was similar to the 14th-century Jacquerie peasant uprising, but quickly acquired themes considered by the government in Paris to be counter-revolutionary, and Royalist. The uprising headed by the self-styled Catholic and Royal Army was comparable to the Chouannerie, which took place in the area north of the Loire.

>Tens of thousands of civilians, Republican prisoners, and sympathizers with the revolution were massacred by both armies. Historians such as Reynald Secher have described these events as "genocide", but most scholars reject the use of the word as inaccurate. Ultimately, the uprising was suppressed using draconian measures. The historian François Furet concludes that the repression in the Vendée "not only revealed massacre and destruction on an unprecedented scale but also a zeal so violent that it has bestowed as its legacy much of the region's identity ... The war aptly epitomizes the depth of the conflict ... between religious tradition and the revolutionary foundation of democracy."

It's not a genocide, it's a war, there were 2 opponents, none of them were innocent, they were both in war to kill, that the Royalist have been massacred just show us that they were military less powerful than the revolutionary.

pff.. that's like saying "There is no Jewish genocide! Germany was in war with them, they were just less successful!!"

Bad comparison. Hitler wanted to explicitely destroy an ethnic group; Jewish didn't really have problems with him, it's Hitler who had a problem, Jewish were not military organized to fight over something with Germany, Jewish were just innocent people that Hitler wanted to exterminate.

killing people because of their political positions isn't genocide by definition. Thanks USSR

Dude, you've 2 group who disagree on an issue(politic), so they decide to fight over it(war), then those who win will do what they want. That's why I don't see how Vendée war is a genocide, that's just 2 group who fight each other over a disagreement.

even if I disagreed with you, the Vendee War can't be a genocide because the victims weren't killed because of their race, ethnicity, or religion, they were killed because they disagreed politically with the Revolutionary government

Let's consider that we include killing because of political belief to the list of category of genocide.

If the people of Vendée were innocent and didn't ask to fight, and that they just asked for segregation for example, and that the revolutionary massacred them, then it would be a genocide.

But in reality they were not innocent, they were in war too, they just failed.

If the revolutionary were massacred(because of Royalists military superiority), then you would have people here saying that Royalists commited a genocide