Why do modern leftists look down on workers and peasants?

the one on the left is an actual commie, the one on the right is just a fascist pretending he's a commie

Because the workers and peasants tend to be uninterested in their social justice and political correctness, which puts them at odds with the modern communist.

Most of them are literally middle class kids LARPing as communists who believe various """oppressed""" groups (gays, niggers, women, trannies) are the "new proletariat". They think it's about oppression olympics.

Because in the interwar period, various marxist philosophers in the west realized the failing of socialism to rise up when WW1 happaned, and they also looked at the Soviet Union and called out some of its flaws. They then had a think tank called The Frankfurt School were they analyzed socialism and sought to fix it, which resulted in Critical Theory (SJW shit/cultural marxism/whatever you want to call it) which expanded on the marxist idea of Proles vs Bourgeois to include all other aspects of society. So it wasnt just the workers vs the capitalist, it was men vs women, or racial minorities vs the majority. Basically EVERYTHING was a power struggle. And These ideas really didnt take off until the 1960s in the west, which was grown in universities, which is why now, western academia is infested with this left wing lunacy. Theres also the long held problem with the socialist movement which is that they hate the rich, not love the poor

youtube.com/watch?v=jIOX1hVRE8Y

tl;dr: they stopped appealing to the working class and started appealing to students.

You have literally no idea what the Frankfurt School or Critical Theory is.

If anything modern SJW shit can be blamed more on Foucault.

Because they are controlled opposition.
Whole movement was subverted and is used as distraction.
>bourgeoisie filth stole name and ideas and used them against workers and working people
If you really care about workers you would be against open borders and global trade.

>no argument
Things like gender studies come directly out of critical theory. The idea that "everyone that doesnt agree with me is a fascist and must be silenced" like Antifa believes is right out of Repressive Tolerance by Marcuse (who was called the Father of the New Left)

Antifa dates back to the Weimar Republic, not Marcuse.

Wow. You;'re amazing at writing pure garbage of things you don't understand.

I kind of doubt that, as modern leftist movements electoral base tends to be low paid workers and lower middle class citizens.

>liberals are leftists

I know. They were just the ad hoc militia of the communist party at the time. But this rebirth in around the late 70s/80s iirc, is all predicated on the New Left ideals. And even beyond Antifa, just the average normie on campus that thinks someone like Ben Shapiro is a nazi and because of this, he shouldnt be allowed to speak.

They're talking about communists user, not liberals.

t. ignorant leftypol shitposter.

You actually have to articulate an argument, this isnt your echochamber.

You are the first person to mention liberals in this thread.

youtube.com/watch?v=bkGJyxdCexs

right so I'll dispute your claim that gender studies do come "right out of critical theory"

I'd like to see more evidence to back that up, and a rigorous definition of the terms used, as in my experience and knowledge the academical and institutional history of gender studies harkens back to sociology departments influenced and interested of these questions following womens liberation movement of 60s and 70s and the popularization of psychoanalytical discourse on sexuality. Furthermore, the peak years of what I consider to be academic critical theory lie in 1950s and early 1960s in US, whereas Gender Studies has been institutionally taught only from 1990s and in U.S gained its first completed PhD as recently as 2005.

Idk anymore , I left the whole anarchist/far left scene around 2015 as well.

So much liberal idpol holy shit, it hurts to think about , but seeing just how much worse it has gotten since then is mind boggling

>Archaic is the same as contemporary
No

>So much liberal idpol
>liberal
Its not liberal idpol, its neo-marxist shit.

>He thinks the lgbt shit doesn't have it's roots in liberalism
Stay deluded my dude

>go over to r/socialism and r/anarchism
>look up shit about gun ownership
>see the same liberal shit "why does anyone NEED an AR-15?"
Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

>With respect to diverse social phenomena at many different levels, critical social inquiry has employed various explanations and explanatory strategies. Marx's historical social theory permitted him to relate functional explanations of the instability of profit-maximizing capitalism to the first-person experiences of workers. In detailed historical analyses, feminist and ethnomethodological studies of the history of science have been able to show the contingency of normative practices (Epstein 1996; Longino 1990). They have also adopted various interpretive stances. Feminists have shown how supposedly neutral or impartial norms have built-in biases that limit their putatively universal character with respect to race, gender, and disability (Mills 1997; Minnow 1990, Young 2002).

plato.stanford.edu/entries/critical-theory/

>being gay wasnt a thing until liberal ideology was formed
stop choosing to be retarded. All this cringy left wing shit you are embarrassed by comes DIRECTLY out of neo-marxism. This attempt to pass it onto Liberals and blame it all on them is pathetic

Liberalism and Marxism are both cancer

>I propose that the Party mandate that all its members take classes on learning the history of U.S. national oppression and, for lack of a better term, battling white privilege within our ranks.

>A simple and easy way that non-POC comrades can do this immediately is by looking within their organizing space and to see if they’re dominating conversations, committees and other projects. Many POC could benefit if our non-POC comrades took a step back or stepped down enough for POC, especially women of color, to voice concerns, opinions or proposals.

>Lastly, I would suggest that the Party begin or continue in popularizing the contributions of radical POC in our Party and country, such as Harriet Tubman, Nat Turner, Lucy Parsons, Toypurina, Frederick Douglass, Malcolm X, W.E.B. DuBois, Henry Winston and countless others.

from the official communisty party usa website
cpusa.org/party_voices/convention-discussion-identity-politics-privilege-the-national-question/

Just in case some leftypol shitter tries once again to deflect and blame all this identity politics bullshit onto liberals

>search gun on r/socialism
top post is pic related

CPUSA hasn't been relevant since 1939

>believe in Y
>call it X
Why shouldn't I inform you of this?

I've seen faggots post this one day while saying the "no one needs an AR-15 killing machine!" meme the next day, especially after that shooting in Florida.

>they are controlled opposition
It's a pretty far-fetched idea and I'm not very knowledgeable, but what if all this PC hysteria is meant to slingshot people to the far right in reaction?
Like, didn't a lot of bankers and industrialists fund the Nazis? And wasn't the CIA influenced by the Gestapo?

>on anarchism top result is pic related, second is "reminder why we should always oppose gun control"

>CPUSA hasn't been relevant since 1939
Neither has socialism in general. Heres another article from their official website

>Why then the ongoing attack on “identity politics” the most recent example coming from Bill Maher and CNN, who urged Democrats to ease up on identity politics, which he claims is prioritized over economic concerns.

>To build unity, the issues of the entire class have to be addressed: race, gender, sexual orientation, cannot and will not be swept under the rug. Sorry Bill, identity and class matter.

cpusa.org/article/bill-maher-karl-marx-and-identity-politics/

Are you sure you weren't looking at r/neoliberal you disinfo spreading fuck?

Yes, but scroll down a bit and you get comments like these

And scroll down a bit and you get comments like these

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Commercial_Agreement_(1940)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Credit_Agreement_(1939)

>wasn't the CIA influenced by the Gestapo?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo–NKVD_conferences

hmmmm.

>its da liberals I swear!
sure thing leftypol shill. Seriously, who do you think you are fooling with this shit?

because workers made money and peasants sold their land

You're only now realizing that most of the current commies are just cosplaying liberals?
Honestly if you do as much as accept that trannies have a right to exist you're not a communist, you are a faggot.

>b-but if you scroll down far enough you'll find people who disagree
so you think the 1% who support gun control are more representative of the subreddit than the 99% who oppose it?

>Neo Marxism
Which is a combination of liberal idpol and Marxism. Get over it

Exactly.
"Fuck trannies lmao 1488 race war now" -Karl Marx

>liberal idpol
no it isnt. Youre just a really stupid person who cant come to grips with the fact that your stupid meme ideology is full of cucks lol. ALL the Frankfurt school was Marxist. Go to ANY marxist get toghether in the western world today and get up in front of them and tell them identity politics doesnt matter.

>He is so deluded that he thinks neomarxism got its lgbt and white privilege theories from itself and not a combination of orthodox Marxism and liberal idpol that occurred in the American educational system
Like okay, think whatever you want bud

Do you honestly believe for a second that the communists would allow the capitalist and fascists to own guns in their society? They don't support freedom of speech, so why the fuck should I believe they'd support universal gun ownership?

>i-its da liberals!
no, its just left wingers in general

>Like okay
nice faggy response soyboy. Are you frusterated that this isnt your echo chamber where you can just ban anyone for calling you out on your bullshit? ALL this identity politics shit comes from marxist, and ALL marxist defend it.

>and ALL marxist defend it.
"and by marxists i mean people that i think are marxists, not actual self identifying marxists"

>because workers made money
pretty much this. Working conditions and pay improved so you cant LARP as grand liberators of the working class anymore, so they instead appeal to overly emotional bougie students instead

youtube.com/watch?v=vxeM8ucicqw

>addressing Bill fucking Maher on your official website

>Be me
>Ultra nationalist and ethnocentric as all hell
>Get called a leftist because I recognize that the Frankfurt School's Critical Theory became combined with liberal thought forming the joke of leftism we see today
Okay
>All the left it's of today are pro lgbt idpol fags
Sadly you're right, the few that don't think this way we're (like me) driven out awhile ago

To clarify
>they are opposition controlled by Intelligence Agencies and globalist
Its like when whole cultural revolutions and hippie movement in 60 were controlled by them.
Its concentrate on non issues and derail any serious movement.
They fulfill similar role to neo nazi groups(and I mean 'real' neo nazi not anyone right of Marx).

They exist for sole purpose of control.

>"and by marxists i mean people that i think are marxists
No, I mean the actual communist party website, as well as every single marxist image board and every single marxist student group, without exception. We all know, including you, full well what would happen if you so much as suggested that id politics was stupid to marxist anywhere. Youre also really really stupid for suggesting that liberalism, based all around individualism, is somehow responsible for a collectivist shitfest that your own side is doing.

Calm the fuck down newfag , orthodox leftists like Marx, Bakunin, and Engels were all racist and "homophobic" as all hell. Neo-marxism is a combination of liberal ideals and Marxist critiques of society , this is coming from someone who sluaed to be far left

you´re on to something

>implying there would be any capitalist(aka parasites) or fascist ion communist societies
I think you have no idea of what are you talking about.

>We all know, including you, full well what would happen if you so much as suggested that id politics was stupid to marxist anywhere
You'd find agreement. Now, if you were to suggest it to syndies, leninists etc...

>Neo-marxism is a combination of liberal ideals
No it isnt. I know this because leftist CONSTANTLY say this, yet never have any proof of it. Not one of those from the Frankfurt School were liberals. They were all, without exception, Marxist.

>based all around individualism, is somehow responsible for a collectivist shitfest that your own side is doing.
>He doesn't understand how flexible egalitarian ideals are
I'm assuming you'rr the kind of guy who thinks that anarcho communism is an oxymoron then huh. Liberalism is also familiar with glorifying libertine pursuits, which is something most anarchists likewise though needed to achieved in society for true freedom to occur. Most radical leftists today are ancoms btw

>You'd find agreement.
sure thing chief

youtube.com/watch?v=v2zDN4pAp5w

That's even worse user, if you kill everyone who thinks slightly differently from you then how the fuck can anyone in that society consider themselves free?

>only fascists can exalt traditional masculine values

Are you a legit xanax ridden retard?

>this sophistry in the face of your bullshit "its da liberal boogeyman!" crap being called out
This place is fucking infested with leftypol.

Who are those people and what is this video supposed to prove?

says the Veeky Forums neet

>the average millennial comes out of college looking like this
>average

Maybe 5% of kids on my college campus looked like that. Whoever made that image is probably a /pol/ basement dweller

nah not only fascist belive in traditional values, but communists sure as hell ain't supposed to

They are free from capitalist exploitation.
>solution is simple no capitalist

People are not free user. They can be free from something but overall they are not free.
Not free at all.

>No it isn't
>No one at the Frankfurt School were liberals
No , but many pomo intellectuals were former marxists turned liberals. Especially among the Beatnik movement in the 50's, there was a combination between liberalism and Marxism that occurred.

The Frankfurt school wasn't the only Neo-Marxist movement in the US, and Marxism in the US developed far past it. Look up who Allen Ginsberg is my dude

>Newfag who doesn't understand history calls me /leftypol/
Jesus christ

Its leftist students at the protest in boston against a free speech rally punching out someone because he didnt hate white people enough. But obviously socialist all hate identity politics and its all created by the liberal boogeyman (despite the fact that all socialist, without exception, support it)

I'd rather be exploited by capitalism than be executed for thoughtcrime.

>No
exactly. thanks for admitting you were wrong.

>maybe if I pretend to be a nazi he will somehow magically just believe my baseless damage control!

postmodernist cultural marxist antifa soyboy cucks BTFO!!!1!11!1

That's most likely the situation, that the modern left got as far as they did because the CIA and/or other entities realized how useful they are for distracting people on all sides from real issues. It could also be that they want to make educated people too weak and docile to stand up to a corrupt government, industry, etc. and to even make them support these things. Maybe it was a way to make communism less of a threat within the US by replacing it with something else. It could be anything, but whatever the case I'm pretty confident these mental cases haven't gotten as far as they have organically.

>lose argument
>get called out on your bullshit damage control lies
>start shitposting in anger
so this...is the power...of leftypol

This is just retarded conspiracy theory garbage instead of just coming to terms with the most likely and realistic idea, which is that socialism in general is just a stupid ideology that attracts stupid people to it that then do stupid things.

>Tfw see woke liberal hippies wore che shirts when Chris Guevera was about as anti-gay as Hitler

You realize that not everyone vaguely left of Mussolini is a marxist, right?

>exactly. thanks for admitting you were wrong.
This has to be a troll
>Durr you're just pretending to be right wing, no one can be right wing and disagree with me about the history of neo-marxism
Lol

What are you talking about? how does your response have anything at all to do with me explaining what happened in that video? Are you at this much of a lost because all your liberal boogeyman lies were called out by me?

I'm not that socialist guy lel. And I'm not trying to defend socialism at all.

Check what happened to occupy Wall Street movement
>it was completely derailed by non issue people from pink left
Current antifa are just thugs for hire.
I would rather not. Also getting executed for though crime can easily happen in capitalism as well.

>This has to be a troll
yeah, youre vague as fuck comment about beatniks was sure an eye opener you asshole. Marcuse, Adorno, Horkeheim, Lukacs were all marxist. Why are you so obsessed with pushing this lie that liberals created neo-marxism?

>Socialists all hate idpol
No, they *used* to hate idpol to a degree and there has always been elements of idpol in leftist movement but the recent incarnations of idpol come from a liberal and Marxist synthesis

Your autism doesn't change that

>Also getting executed for though crime can easily happen in capitalism as well.
Here in America we have this thing called free speech and due process, which ensures that the government can't go around executing Antifa members, even though they deserve it.

I never claimed either, Im saying that the idea that neo-marxist are controlled opposition by the CIA is a stupid idea.

>yeah, youre vague as fuck comment about beatniks was sure an eye opener you asshole
>Vague as fuck
Only if your IQ is room temperature , I told you that there are other roots for neo-marxism in the US besides the Frankfurt school. Now you're back to assuming the Frankfurt School is the only Neo-Marxist or far left movement in the US.

I told you exactly where to read about this synthesis and you openly.refuse to do so.

>come from a liberal
No it doesnt. Notice how you always try to push this lie and never can give any real evidence for this? Again, ALL the Frankfurt School thinkers, without exception, were marxist. Not ONE(1) of those people who developed the idea were liberals. In fact, when liberals today call this shit out, ALL leftist, attack them for doing so. ie Jordan Peterson