At what point in history did we shift to the dystopian timeline?

TES3: Morrowind, it appears when you kill somebody who's critical to the story. Best game in the series tbqh.

Kennedy was the last chance for America to extract itself from the claws of the Corporate Elite, with his assassination it's been all down hill.

>there will never be another tes without level scaling

The moment Babylon fell

Yeah and how did the (((corporate elite))) install itself in America like a parasite in the first place?You need to dig deeper.

chasing food make grug tired
grug mad
no eat baby goats or grug smash
baby goats become big goats
big goats make more baby goat
then grug have many goat
then grug not need to chase food
grug smart

European nobility decided to give all the economic positions to the jews because of christianity, so I guess they are right

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>At what point in history did we shift to the dystopian timeline?

~400 AD. When Rome declared Christianity the official religion of Rome without even paying attention to what the gospel documents say.

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> boat people and assyrians invading Egypt
> destruction of the Roman Empire
> invasion of the Mongols
> rise of Islamic Caliphates
> rise of Facism and Communism
I don't think we've ever not been in one. I'm waiting for some aliens to rock up and let everyone know that we are failed experiment and the descendants of people that wiped out the proper first humans.

Maybe those that built the Great Pyramids were truly enlightened people and since then vicious animals have walked the earth.

>the Roman Empire was good
>fascism was bad
The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.

>At what point in history did we shift to the dystopian timeline?

What I mean is that everything we try to build seems to inevitably collapse from violence, violent peoples and violent ideologies.

There's a difference between a classical Italian-centric empire and some modern LARPers with a love on anachronism.

How fucking dope would it have been if Rome went 9 seasons and covered Augustus and Livia, Tiberius (with Pilate/Judea scenes), Claudius, and Caligula to cap it off?

Actually Nero for the finale would be better

The finale should be the fall of the Western Roman Empire. Each season would be another major emperor. There'd be occasional time-jumps.

unironically when caesar died.
I genuinely believe he would have kept the republic alive, he was just pushed into a corner. And I genuinely believe that having a hellenistic center of power in the west was a great benefit to the world.
God I wish he hadn't died.

It began on a warm, cloudless, beautiful sunny day on September 11th, 2001.

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it wouldn't have been dope at all cause rome presents a boring and simplistic version of rome that just doesn't do it justice at all.
Also a prequel is more interesting. Gaius/sulla period is the best part of roman history.

Hard to sustain that. Too many casuals watch because they like to sit and googly-eye the stars. They barely even pay attention. I have met more than one person (usually a gril) who watches Rome this way.

>Gaius/sulla period is the best part of roman history.

Sulla would be the best ever.

You could literally end 9 seasons of utter carnage with "And he lived happily ever after in his lovely villa with his wife and twink boy-toy."

Fuck that video sucks my bad, use this one.

youtube.com/watch?v=_CpnXKQVLEs

I absolutely would love to see a season for just Marcus Aurleius, and then Commodus.

it still doesn't change the fact that the show is bad. Rome the show is a fucking farce. I wish there was something like Masters of Rome or I, Claudius(the book) on tv

>Masters of Rome

Is this worth the investment of time? I loved I, Claudius, but I'd love a novel about the late Republic period.

If I could kill one person I would kill you and feel nothing

It depends. they have vastly different writing. But Masters of Rome is actually a lot more culturally in depth than Claudius books ever get. I'd rate it higher on the presented content, and lower on prose. I like them better overall, especially cause I think the republic is more interesting.

is that picture using shakespeares play as a historical resource?

Obvious October Revolution is obvious.

1914. Before that we reached peak humanity

we aren't there yet and we never will be. humanity will have its ending in a static utopia, and one that sits well with the human spirit

1914

>At what point in history did we shift to the dystopian timeline?
Don't even try to deny it.

When he tried to remind them but they didn't listen.

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That location is wrong. It's 29° 58'

It's always been a dystopian timeline. Light and dark exists in all humanity. Without the light you'd say it just is at is, and that there isn't much wrong. Without the dark you wouldn't be asking the question, and we'd all be living in some sort of utopia.

obvious reddit-tier meme is obvious

this event had no lasting impact. we just attribute meaning to it because if it did, it'd be poetic

When the pyramids of giza were built we didn't use kilometers per hour as a system of measurement or divide the world into latitude and longitude.

>The biggest war of the 20th century had no lasting impact

Rather, that moment wasn't the catalyst for the war

It was the elbow to the quarterback's mouth that triggered the riot at the football game.

yes, but frans assassination was not the proverbial elbow in this case.

When we avoided the Cuban Missile Crisis, thus causing humanity to not enter nuclear war and inadvertently create a race of atomic supermen.

>destruction of the Roman Empire
You mean republic. The empire was the problem

When the 1930's concluded and Anglo-American Crypto-Calvinist Democracy slew its alternatives.
Three Orwellian mind control states were our choices. Two of them arose from christianity - communism, and the present system.
These two are correct.

euphoric

Good lad

When conciousness emerged, and we became capable of wrong doing.

they did alright under the circumstances

That's a funny way of pronouncing correct.

don't bother with season 3, they kind of went off the chain after they blew through their budget

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kennedy was literally east coast elitist

I am currently reading the first one and it's pretty good. It's a mix of politics and personal stories to give the different senators some character depth. Sometimes it's hard to keep track of all the people involved but it's very rewarding once one personal story merges with a bigger political story in a satisfying way.

this

April 9, 1865

1789
Everything since then has been just a bad dream.

I have studied this extensively. The point of divergence seems to be 1989.

I am from the timeline where Mandela died in prison, the Tiananmen protester was run over by the tank, Clinton embargoed China, Al Gore's FBI prevented 9/11, and America is engaged in a new space race against China under President Mitt Romney.

I want to go back to my world.

The French Revolution.

what are the movies like

I see you've been reading Moldbug

They tried, but it turns out Christians want to be persecuted because then they can larp as Jesus, and in a society that keeps tons of slaves they'll be drawn to an ideology that promises a glorious afterlife for the meek.

From my point of view the Jedi were evil

Yeah but dude, they didn't try very hard when the cult was still small and easily squashable. By the time they realized what they were dealing with it was the third century and in spite of dedicating more time and resources to killing the christcucks there were too many of them and too little available resources to deal with them effectively.