>reading catholic subleddit >post about whether or not protestants are saved >prevailing opinion is that they are not saved by default >later, reading the jefferson bible >miss the part where jesus talks about dressing like a pimp and swinging around a holy hookah
is there any scripture that indicates catholic practices/traditions as prerequisite for being "saved"? the catholic argument seemed to be that protestants may be saved because they are faithful but ignorant of the importance of the observance of catholicism and not deliberately rebelling against god, and god has more mercy for the former
Are you that crazy proddy who was spamming Kent Hovind in a thread recently?
Juan Nelson
>They let him get away with this post
Owen Adams
Why does Veeky Forums have unironic Evangelicals?
Brayden Mitchell
Why wouldn't it? We have Muslims here.
Angel Rodriguez
Because some people in this board aren't retarded atheists or catholic larpers.
Some of us actually believe in Biblical facts.
Lincoln Carter
>Lutherans inviting pedophiles into their Church
Looks like the schism is mended boys
Ian Stewart
I am a protestant and I think we can all agree that Lutherans should be purged.
Noah Price
>Biblical facts.
Julian Rivera
>I am a protestant
Brandon Green
Plz no bulli
Juan Ward
Lutherans are the only protestants who aren't absolute retard tier. Speaking about High Church European Lutherans obviously, I'm not sure Americans even qualify as humans regardless of their denomination.
Tyler Baker
>be a christian >get enslaved for hundreds of years >whine about jews >have every empire we built crumble simultaneously Christians are a cancer
>catholic is also a redditor No suprise there tbqh
Brayden Lewis
Islam doesn't count
Luke Morgan
Kek
Aiden Myers
There are some crazies there who think democracy is bad yeah.
Chase Jenkins
This kills the proddie >Therefore, brothers, stand firm and cling to the traditions we taught you, whether by speech or by letter.
Luke Reed
>prevailing opinion is that they are not saved by default Nobody is saved by default >reading the jefferson bible lol
>is there any scripture that indicates catholic practices/traditions as prerequisite for being "saved"? There is if you read what Christians were saying for the first few hundred years (which is unsurprisingly more or less what the Catholic Church and the various Eastern Churches still practice), but you're running off of the initial assumption that every single aspect of Christian belief must have an explicit scriptural basis.
Kevin Sanders
>He claims while perverting/exterminating thousands of years of European tradition
Kayden Gutierrez
>you're running off of the initial assumption that every single aspect of Christian belief must have an explicit scriptural basis. why wouldn't i?
Jaxson Parker
P*pists proving yet again they are the perpetual enemies of our nation You cannot be both a patriot and Catholic
Christian Powell
Whats so special and wrong about the jefferson bible? Is it true he took a bible and "secularised" it?
Angel Roberts
sort of. he was trying to isolate the philosophy of jesus himself and boiled the entire bible down to just his teachings. so it's more a philosophy book than a religious text.
Adam Harris
Because you don't have an explicit scriptural basis for doing so.
Alexander Brown
If you read this post thoughtfully and carefully, you will discover the fatal flaw at the heart of Protestantism. According to Protestants, every doctrine must be found in scripture. This is illogical, however, for several reasons. 1) The Protestant theory of interpretation is not found in scripture. How do we interpret the Bible? Ask that to any Protestant and they will say, "You just read it and it means what it plainly says." The problem with that approach (which is called the historical grammatical approach) is that it isn't advocated in the New Testament. Further, the New Testament authors used a Midrashic form of interpretation when quoting the Old Testament -- i.e. they allegorized and found the "hidden meaning" behind the text they quoted (for example in Psalm 8 when quoted in Hebrews or in Isaiah 9 when quoted in the Gospels).
2) The canon of scripture is nowhere mentioned in scripture, therefore it can't be a doctrine that this or that book is inspired but this or that book isn't.
Wyatt Gonzalez
>r/catholicism has a literal faggot with autism as a mod The absolute state of Papists.
Lucas Edwards
You cannot be a patriot and a christian in general desu. The religion is universalist and one in which you're in the same boat as with other Christians.
Gabriel Gomez
>Damn dat little boy has got a fine ass, I'ma get all up in his guts t. Jesus
Damn, Protestantism BTFO
Michael Cox
Non-meme answer: The catechism states that Protestants are Christians, but there is no salvation outside the church.
Tyler Hall
But Lumen Gentium also says they can be mystically united to the Church. So they can be saved, but only because of their connection to the Catholic Church -- a connection which they might be wholly unaware of during this life.
Jacob Rivera
why should i put any stock in the catholic catechism? my faith is based on what's written in the holy bible
Gavin Gonzalez
The Holy Bible which was canonized and entrusted to the Church -- the same Church the Holy Spirit now leads. It makes no sense to say you trust the Scriptures without saying you also trust the Church from which they came.
Ayden Rogers
That's against Catholic doctrine. If you're a protestant that's fine, but the catechism is the official Catholic Doctrine
Ayden Anderson
Wrong, read the bible 1 Timothy 5:8 Acts 17:26
Adrian Campbell
basically I don't like miracles therefore I can't have them in a book which the original contains them
That would considered very sectarian if it situated on the physical church, than the universal.
Ryder Mitchell
>is there any scripture that indicates catholic practices/traditions as prerequisite for being "saved"?
I actually know the answer to this, but I'm going to butcher it though: 1 Samuel 15: "Samuel said, "Has the LORD as much delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices As in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, And to heed than the fat of rams." The context of this was Saul is being denounced by Samuel because Saul was supposed to completely destroy the Amalekites, not pillage them for the sake of plunder, but utterly exterminate them because that's what God commanded him to do. Saul thought everything was fine with God because he did all the right rituals, so who cares as long as he did the necessary sacrifices and filled out the paper work to God, right? Wrong. Samuel berates and lectures Saul that God doesn't really give as much of a shit about ritual as he does about INTENTION, CONVICTION, PURPOSE, he's trying to impart the importance of MOTIVE and so forth- God is all seeing, all knowing, he isn't a lawyer, he isn't a bureaucrat, he doesn't fucking care about your technicalities.
Tldr; God most likely doesn't give a shit about the differences in Catholic or Christian religion so long as they're following the intention of his words, commandments, etc.. Morality is more important than Ritual. That's my understanding of it at least.