Steroids general

stay safe /fraud/

masT are you turk

Are you're using UG from that site? Do you know if that's even legit?

I got mine via dermo when i used it. Minimum dose is 30mg.

Do you know what you're using? Full effects will take 1.5-2 months minimum.

For hair loss keto is what you need

for thickness i would recommend using saw + pumkin at those dosages indeed

for regrowth; all of it including biotin,

some Czechoslovakia and Austrian blood

no turk

I will die by the needle. I can't live a skinny live anymore

just don't go on opioids

Lookin juicy cant wait till you hop on roids big guy

So I'm 22 now and did a cycle 3 years ago when I was 19 (test and dbol). It was easily the best 12 weeks of my life.
Since then ive been on and off the gym. Right now I'm probably in slightly better shape than what I was before my first cycle.

Recently I convinced myself I'd get back on. I was going to sit down this weekend and make my order, but with Rich suddenly dying I'm having second thoughts. Is this a sign that I shouldn't do it?
I'm only looking at a basic cycle, probably test and dbol again.

What do you guys think? Is the juiced up life worth it?

Dallas choked on some food and Piano probably went hypo from slin and hit his head. not really roid related

happy friday

>if I die, I die

you are very very very very very far from ending like rich pannini.

The gear rich has taken, coppled with heavy drug use like MDMA or Coke or whatever, is a one way ticket to leave humanity behind.
Im honestly surprised he even became this old, considering he was already 260 lbs of pure muscle as a 18 year old.

What happened to rich will never happen to you, if you do your regular 500 test blasts.
Im confused as to why i have to explain this to you. How can you compare your baby gear to rich, who has been roiding like an imbecile since decades?

implying it wasn't the order 66

>RIP Piana
Would you consider this to be a wake up call or will you continue to use this shit?

Just pinned 2mg test 400 and 2.5ish mg tren a into one quad before a 13 hour flight. Hopefully I don't get too bad of pip.
Also the tren was to finish off the vial.

No I understand it won't kill, especially if I just stick to the more tame stuff.

But is this lifestyle worth it?

>Breaking the law
>Buying expensive drugs (theyre costly where I live)
>The hard work and discipline
All to just be stronger and better looking than the average Joe.

they aren't costly anywhere unless you're in a 3rd world country and make 20 dollars a month

but then you really have to ask yourself if roiding should really be part of your life

>they aren't costly anywhere unless you're in a 3rd world country and make 20 dollars a month
Aus, they arent dirt cheap like the states or uk

Exactly, is the hassle worth it?
How do you guys justify to yourselves that using steroids should be a part of your life?

Wether it is worth it or not, everyone has to decide for himself. If you dont have a single reason in your mind why you should workout or take steroids, then dont do it.

Personally, i couldnt be happy if i didnt workout and had a nice body. Its a must for me. But thats just me, not you.

>breaking the law
Who cares you dont get cought
>expensive
if a 16 week test cycle is expensive for you then maybe ur just poor.

>the hard work and discipline
a smooth sea doesnt make good sailors, user.
Hard work and discipline is what shapes and strengthens your personality over the years.
Seems to me like you dont really want to be astethic and jacked, and you are just following the lifestyle or whatever.

Go deep into your mind, and ask this yourself:
Is lifting going to help me? Do i even want to lift? Do i really want a nice body?

There is nothing wrong with being a dyel normie. You only live once. Do what makes you happy, nothing more, nothing less.

ur a retard for comparing us dyels to rich pannini.

HE DIDNT DIE FROM ROIDS YOU DUMB FUCKS

>they aren't costly anywhere
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Steroids are legal in Japan, but domestic sources are expensive.

>tfw the plebs are going to judge steroids even more now
>they just ignore the fact that him and zyzz snorted up coke like a fucking vacuum cleaner

Sad.

>minox
>dht blocker
lol

it's really not expensive though. my prices in Canada are higher than yours (pic for yours) and our money is worth less/your wages are like twice ours

then maybe don't order domestic, though even domestic I really doubt it's that expensive.

Meh knee jerk gonna knee jerk.

1 in 3 deaths in in the U.S. is from heart disease, then there's all the diabetes, pcos, cancer, etc.

Being fat is the biggest risk factor, though I suppose eating like a true fatty and roiding+lifting without being fat may also be a risk factor (CT Fletcher).

Test E is typically $110 in Aus, others more.

then don't order from shit sources. again, my pic is from a verified aus source.

Yep even mark bell talked about Rich's drug habit. I thought it was a little untimely for him to talk about his drug problems right after he died but oh well.

not asking about sources but do you guys get your gear domestically or order it?If you do order it is it from deep web marketplaces or the clearnet?

Some Japan prices, in USD
Test C 200mg/mL $62
Test E 300mg/mL $85
Tren A 75mg/mL $110
Tren E 100mg/mL $120
Tren Mix 200mg/mL $170
Mast E 200mg/mL $150
Deca 100mg/mL $90
Deca 300mg/mL $130
EQ 300mg/mL $100

I'd avoid the deep web for now given what just happened.

Order it from the clearnet. It's legal to buy steroids in the UK, it's just illegal to sell them.

but you can import legally and you're right next to China... you could be paying 20 usd a vial and that's if you don't want to homebrew

Who will play him in the inevitable biopic?

Former alcoholic here, had liver problems in past.

Is it safe for me to take tbol now? Because I heard you can't drink on it but now I'm sober is it okay/

>tbol
fuck off retard

Why are you mad bud?

Yes and no.

You can import a "30 day supply" of prescription medication. I haven't tried ordering "large" amount of any steroid that has no prescription, but without a defined prescription, they probably wont hold it back unless they ask you specifically how much you use per day etc.

For example, I an order of small amounts of tudca, lgd, superdrol, anavar, tbol, dbol, and anadrol all stealthed powders.

I told them what it was when they caught it (scanners pick out the powder directly in stealth packaging btw I went in person and got to briefly see the scan), and they told me that the anadrol was over the limit.

You have to call the Ministry of Health and tell them ref number and they tell you whats wrong and what the actual limit is for 30 days, then you call back or visit customs and they say do you want the rest of the stuff and throw this out or send it back to customs, or abandon the whole package.

Ftr, 30 day limit of Anadrol turns out to be 1500mg.

The only way you can find out the limit is by importing it and then being told, Ive repeatedly contacted the Ministry of Health asking about limits on other things, and they just say 1 month, then ask to clarify how much is 1 month supply, and they dick around and tell me 30 days times the prescribed dosage, they wont tell you a max limit unless you actually import it and break the limit.

Anyway, so, I think probably even 1 vial of test is over the limit, because TRT is max prescribed at what 200mg a week? Even if they prescribed at 500mg a week thats still over a month.

send it back to customs = send it back to the original sender

If you want no size or muscle gains then tbol is useful for that.

Its probably good for athletes because enhanced performance and strength, and you can cut on it and preserve muscle.

Unless youre cutting I wouldnt bother.

my deadlift is 170kg atm which i'm pleased with but i seriously need to cut, so i'm thinking use tbol for 6 weeks and keep my deadlift at that while cutting. after my cycle you think i can just resume eating as normal while retaining my lifts?

because you're here following the Jon Jones bust and you're retarded

ive made mistake and started cycle at too high bodyfat
do i keep bulking to maximize the gains from this cycle? i dont have gyno or anything just too much fat

The only worse thing than Rich Papaya dying is that now every natty and housemom will claim that roids kill you always and every time. Unconditionally.

How high?
Consider a recomp.

18%
i really want to recomp but i keep reading broscience on forums that you cant do that
i feel like therye not giving the drugs enough credit desu

who is jon jones?

Why not go on a hard PSMF cut at like sub 1000kcal a day, and throw in some additional cardio. You should be good in like 2-4 weeks depending how hard you cut and start a lean bulk from there.

PANINI BOY DIED FROM SNORTING STEROIDS
DONT DO DRUGS KIDS

this is pretty good idea
i will do this
ill drop my cals extra low because the 500mgtest-e protect my muscle hopefully

>but i keep reading broscience on forums that you cant do that

If fucking nattys can do it so can we.

>muh optimal gains
lose fat, build some muscle whats not to love.

ok i have eca stack at home from when i had cut before
i will do this

Sounds good.
Just drop back to a comfy 10-12% and do a good bulk from there.

What are you cycling?

I'll make sure to use this pic for your sticky

>19 yrs old
>1/1.5/3/4
I am >strong but small. I do have muscle, but I'm not fully grown (I hope) and have a small frame. 6 inch wrists and small ankles and forearms and shit. I plan on a 250mg test e twice weekly for 15 weeks cycle - if I take roids before I finish growing, will my endocrine system really be cucked permanently, even with sufficient PCT, and stunt my natty growth hormone gains that'll give me that 'man' frame instead of the teenager frame I have now?

no trolls please lads, genuinely want some opinions

If you can't even follow the simple instructions in the OP, then you're either not smart enough or not scrupulous enough to be using steroids.

why even post this? it is plainly stated in every single roid related wiki and website that you definitely shouldn't be taking test until you're finished growing, yet you're still asking this shit. even if 10 people reply that you shouldn't do it and one retard tells you it's ok because science is a gains goblin you'll just take his "advice" and do it anyway

Not him but seriously some of the dumbest people I know, gym meatheads, take steroids without doing a shred of resource. "Here take this" and they literally inject themselves with unknown chemical without even know what post cycle therapy means.

>best mma fighter in history is caught doing tbol
>suddenly there's more interest in the drug
>people want his success
>"you're a retard"

you remind me of those teens who get mad when their favourite band hits mainstream

Of course, yeah. I'm just trying to prevent that kind of stuff from happening where I can, because it generally leads to long-term problems.

>Jon Jones
>best fighter in mma history
what

p.s. tbol is shit

Tbol worked for Olympic athletes, but its a bad choice for muscle growth.

My retarded local prices in Norway:
Testosterone Enanthate - 250mg $80
Testosterone Propionate - 100mg $65
Equipose - 250mg $130
Trenbolone Acetate - 100mg $155

Tren prices are so completely retarded here I will never use it unless I find a cheaper source, probably one that is not online.

I can get it a lot cheaper, but then I have to order for over 6500 bucks and everything over that is 50% off.

He died from coke and adderall
Nevermind the fact that the dosages I run are a fraction of what he used

it me hollywood celery movie star

looking like a melon bucks m'lard

i had to come off first cycle due to serious medical problems and my endocrynologist put me on "pct" that looks like this - 2500 ui of hcg 2x week for 3 months and 25mg aromasin/day first month only. do you think this ammount of hcg will give a lot of natural test production ? he gave me this much hcg because i told him that i was low test in the first place.

What sort of medical problems did you encounter

Your doctor sounds retarded.

>take roids
>grow bitch tits
>balls shrink and dissapear
>die

lmao

I always hate people who just inject 600mg of test a week that they got from some random dude at the gym parking lot thinking its a magic juice, and then they bitch and moan when people call them a retard.
We've basically cracked the code to avoid ball shrinkage and bitch tits for almost every single person.
Even if you do get bitch tits you can slowly lose then with the right meds.

Only downsides of roids at this point is possibly losing hair earlier, and possible bacne.

>We've basically cracked the code to avoid ball shrinkage
tell me, I'm going to BnC for life

ye he's a doctor that specialises in hormones what would he know right !?

Arimidex & hCG for starters.

RIP Rich. 4ever 4 scoops.

okay knew about that, thanks anyway. Also heard that hcg helps with well being

then why not just trust him instead of asking us

protip: don't run hcg the whole time just because you don't want your balls to be small. small balls don't fucking matter. one way trip to leydig cells desensitization, choo choo

fertility is still always a problem when on, even with hcg + hmg. coming off solves it, though, but it's not a solvable problem while bncing. ivf is always an option however but it's not the same

Yeah it is (luckily) entry tier knowledge now. And thank fuck for that, just means less people fucking up their body.

hCG is overall just great. Only thing is use needs to be regulated, as your body might grow dependant on hCG for its test production.

But since you plan on BnC for life, you might as well just not give a fuck at this rate.

Yet he puts you on a retarded and potentially damaging protocol.

That much aromasin is going to leave you feeling like shit without doing all that much.

And the high hcg dose is better off spread out more.

Why is Anabolics 9th Edition by William Llewellyn considered the best book for sterons when everyone calls his stack recommendations retarded?

I would never have the balls to claim more than a doctor who specializes in the subject.

Instead of listening to people here vs what he says, try having an open dialogue with him.
Listen to people here, and then next time you go to your doctor, simple say
>"So I've been doing some research about hormonal recovery and treatments, and I know you are a professional so of course I expect you to be more in the right on this one, but what puzzles me is how the information clashes with the treatment you propose. How could that be? I'm asking since I'd love to understand your stance and then stop the spread of more misinformation. For example, about the hCG, I've read that..."

Allows him to explain it. You might learn something.
Worst case he has nothing to explain and that kind of just leaves his overall authority at zero, which I doubt he will.

>2500 ui of hcg 2x week for 3 months
5000 units a week is absolutely retarded. 1000 units is plenty with 2000 being overkill. You need to ask your dr about hMG. Longer acting and better than hcg in many ways.
>25mg aromasin/day
RIP e2/joints/lipids/libido. Way way way too much and very unhealthy.

Are you sure this guy is an actual dr?

Only decent drug catalog

Endos are all retards

Man I feel pretty bad about starting roids right now because I did everything right and didn't use them at my prime. I strength trained seriously for 2-3 years and got my bench up to 315x8 as a natural at 200 lbs and then I lost motivation to lift after an injury and pretty much quit lifting for a year. I'm benching around 275x5 now at 180 and just hopped on roids so I'm feeling pretty bad about being so pathetically weak AND on roids. I'm also cutting hard so I know it won't be getting any better

was doing test and dbol, ive dropped the dbol now
just got back from gym did 5/3/1 and 30 min liss cardio
i think im just doing 250mg test-e to maintain the muscle instead of 500mg

post pics, masT

Posted before but now shit almost hit the fan..

So im currently on my 2nd cycle, this time on 500mg test/w and 400mg deca/w. Got bloods done after the 7th week and my e2 was over 3 times higher than normal and my prolactin 4 times higher.

So, to the point... I am exremely jealous, get pissed off super easily, things start to fly and I feel like I could rip peoples heads off. Currently my gf is out of town for 2 DAYS and I am having a fucking hard time not believing shes not cheating on me.

First cycle was 500mg test/w and not a single burst of anger.

Am currently taking 0.25mg adex ED instead of e3d and prami 0.2/d. Hope this shit will go down soon or I need to hit the gym twice a day to keep my calm. AND IF I DONT GET LAID I GET AGITATED AS FUCK

This steroid thing is no joke.

this, I need to fap

On 500mg of Test E a week for about 4 weeks now, haven't really noticed any strength gains, really just libido increase.

This typical? Stacking it with ostarine too.

Give it 2 more weeks, it isnt a sudden "oh shit I will move mountains"-effect. Steady gains.