/fraud/ steroids general

no

no, that's not how any of this works. working out helps the blood flow in that specific area and makes the pip get better faster, actually

kill yourself

yeah i know but im thinking if theres an inflammation in the muscle then putting it under massive tension might not be a good idea

pip isn't inflammation. I can't speak for whether you fucked up your injection and need antibiotics or something... but if it's just regular pip you need to go work out

if it's red, swollen and hot to the touch then well...

Afternoon my dudes, is it normal for a little bit of test to come out after you inject? I'm talking like a drop, probably even less.

I googled it and it says that it can happen as a result of injecting too fast so recently I have slowed right down but it still happens.

Is there an invisible gains goblin sucking my juice away?

shouldn't happen. leave the needle inside you for like ten seconds after you're done injecting. if it's leaking like that it might even leak subq and that sucks ass

>your dealer told you that his friend told him that he saw you at the gym and you got big
feeling kind of good but i see a dyel fag in the mirror and on top of that im fat and i feel disgusted with my body and cut is inevitable and i will lose my size (aka optimal body fat percentage 30-45% to create illusion of being big while wearing 10XL hoodie to "hide your powerlevel") while cutting and that means i will literally dissapear

currently eating my daily 0.5kg raw ground beef

if the muscle is completely relaxed and not being squeezed and the oil has gone into the muscle then you should not have any seepage. could it be how youre sitting/lying down as you pin?

Anybody here use tanning beds? I live in England so I can't remember what the sun is like. I want to build up a bit of a tan since my gains are looking good but I'm pasty as fuck.

I'm tempted to go but the two close to me have some really chavvy girls working there and I can see myself spilling spaghetti everywhere if they start talking to me.

im cutting near 10%bf for the first time, really nice to see less fat on my elbows making my bis and forearms look more defined and somehow bigger

my pecs are really flat though, i didnt realise how small they are compared to my shoulders and lats. first thing to work seriously on once i hit 8%, for sure. mixed cut feels

we just had a scorching 3-day weekend, were you working the whole time?

ifaik most places you can book online and you shouldnt need to say much at the desk. the beds ought to be in private rooms. but save your money until spring because it'll be too cold to give a shit soon

How's anadrol for women?

tanning beds are superior to the real sun for tanning
not a good idea

I've considered doing steroids before, and for other reasons. But I'm 23, and a beardlet. My facial hair growing capacity sucks.

Would a cycle or two give me some follicle gains?

It would be a pro to add to the list, though not the deciding factor.

Anecdotally decent at low doses but there are things I would use before adrol.

>would adding more androgens to my body increase androgenic features?
u havn a giggle m8?

Yes my beard growth made leaps of progress (it still sucks ass tho).

But in the end it all comes down to genetics, look at your family, have they got good facial hair?

I'm aware it's an androgenic feature. Just wasn't sure if it was all genetic.

Dad, uncles, and grandparents all have solid facial hair. My older brother and I don't really though. (Inb4 my mom cucked my dad, though the fucker would deserve it).

Length isn't much of a problem. It's just not all that thick, so I look like a fedora Lord when I grow it out any.

tell us about your father, user

Roids will probably speed up that process then.
Hope it helps when you decide to hop on, but please don't hop on for beard gains alone.

> penis doctor partially gave into my demands to provide pictures of erect results
> imgur.com/a/HjaA6 (penis)

Now what sort of iPhone is that?

Steroids only seem to make it grow faster but don't actually create a quality beard.

Anyone here have any experience with HGH?

Since you asked and I'm in your world.

>Cheats on mom with ugly twiggy co worker
>Gets fired for it, leaving us broke as shit for a few months
>Moves for new job
>Introduces me to my almost two year old little brother when I go visit him from college.
>SURPRISE!

He's an cool person to hang around. I just hate the choices he's made.

Nah I was just curious. I've been interested in them since I started lifting. I'd use them to find out how it feels and because I like being big and strong.

But since I'm no genetic freak and it's all for fun, the beard is a pretty cool perk.

Sounds harsh man.

The big and strong part is very addictive if you have an addicting nature.
There is a reason people tell you lifting will never be the same again.

One of the reasons I haven't yet is because I don't want it to ruin liftiing.

But at the same time, I could just try to be a freak when Im young. Then quit steroids and serious lifting in my mid/late 30s, and just lift and do cardio as a health fag For the next 30-50 years til I die.

Not thinking of many reasons not to.

It doesn't ruin lifting perse.
Its just that if you really like lifting right now you'll feel a total state of bliss lifting on.

I do anyways, but I bnc, making lifting a normal routine thing on cruises.

I have been bulking natty for a while now, I'd like to cut on low doses of test.
What should the minimum dosage be if I want to minimise muscle loss? I'll be eating at a -500 kcal deficit and HITT twice a week.
I was thinking 100mg test e twice a week, can I go lower? Keep in mind that I'm just trying to preserve muscle mass

This whole idea sounds retarted.

Picking trt doses to shut yourself down and cut on.

Go something along the lines of 300mg minimum. Or stay natty.

God damn, estrogen is scary.

Test kicking and dbol still being active drove my estrogen up. Probably should have stopped taking dbol earlier.

Got acne on my chest, no sex drive (suppose to be really high on test), tired all of the time, irritable (everyone getting on my nerves), suicidal thoughts (think about killing myself multiple times a day), headaches and lethargic as fuck. At the start of dbol I had tons of energy, and felt really great (no suicidal thoughts at all).

Fuck estrogen. I will double my AI for the next few days and stop taking dbol 4 days early. Hopefully I can enjoy test soon.

>tfw go from 6mg asin ed to now 17mg ed.
>still have higher estro than Id like

Fuck estro and fuck so weak

When does test e kick in

Jesus what dose are you on fatty?

Supposedly 4 weeks in for most people, so probably somewhere between 3.5 to 5 weeks. I am 5 weeks in and I started getting high e symptoms somewhere last week that just got worse and worse. I started taking dbol 1 week early, so 6 weeks on dbol now.

My strength and stamina today was pretty shit. I managed to increase my bench press strength, but only slightly, compare that to the other weeks where my bench skyrocketed every week. My stamina was so shit that I felt extremely tired after just 5 sets of bench and when it was time for the rest of the workout, it all felt like a chore. So many new faggots at the gym taking up all the equipment made me rage so hard.

My face doesn't look overly bloated, but I noticed that my body started looking more fat recently. Like all definition is gone and my stomach looks expanded, and I am like "how did I get so fat so fast?", but it seems like that's what water retention does. My muscle definition is so bad right now.

I have no signs of gyno whatsoever, but every other symptom is there.

I'll definitely go with anadrol over dbol next time, although dbol was kind to me for the most part apart from some bloat. Not to get too ahead of myself, but next cycle will probably be much less bloat with test,eq and adrol as kicker.

How do I calculate macros while on gear.

I ate food (sausage/egg sandwich) about 6-7 hours before instead of fasting for 12 hours before I got my blood work done. Would this have any affect on my free/total T levels?

That literally has nothing to do with estrogen. You're just insane

So, you have to pass a drug test.

How do you do it?

Related: Russians used Salt and Nescafe to do it, but how does it work?

straitstimes.com/sport/salt-and-coffee-used-to-hide-tainted-russian-doping-samples

>tfw fell for the test-e meme
>tfw on my 4th injection of 400mg
>tfw look worse than I started, feel no different at all, and am holding ridiculous amounts of water
>tfw no strength gains, just better pumps

God steroids are such a waste of time. I knew the results were just redditors exaggerating as usual

>4th injection
>tfw no strength gains
hmmm

>hai guise
>i've been doing bicep curls for 10 mins now
>and they haven't grown at all
>you're a bunch of liars
>training doesn't work

Only 500
Im pissed
About to bump ai up too

I was on 25mg ed

do what I did, take 75mg all at once. my estro's been crashed for like 2 weeks now, haven't had to take any asin since. clearly this is the superior choice.

I feel it the next day.

Why cant I stop lookin up tranny escorts
Smh

No thanks I like my joints and lipids.
I might just cut if it gets much higher.

anyone here have experience with their natural test production shutting down? some gearbois at my gym were telling me that if you start cycling before 24ish years of age you are at a big risk of ending up on TRT forever

what if i just cycled test enanthate once without tren deca or dbol?

>trying to get a feel for my postworkout carb needs with this training
>just eating more whenever I feel like my blood sugar is getting low again

I feel like there has to be a more intelligent way to do this.

Look up the side-effects of how high estrogen, you absolute mong. Not saying that all of it is, but some of it definitely is. I read about high e in blog from an advanced user and it all matched up. Morning wood, harder to get an maintain an erection and it's never fully hard. If my test was at a normal level, I would have no problem getting and maintaining erections apart from waking up. I also feel really tired all of the time and need to sleep during the day.

if my estrogen was at a normal level with how high my test is ***

Anyone here have any idea on Ketogenic diet for fat loss while on test to prevent muscle loss?

absolutely pointless

If test is high enough and diet is on point, you shouldn't lose any muscle.

You have to adjust them and track your weight and see how many more cals you need every 2 weeks readjust

What about
muh protein
brah

Is it reasonable to try to bulk then cut in the same cycle? I'm close to my goals and wanted to recomp but am not running tren so I figured it might be difficult.

Considering running 8 weeks light bulk (test and dbol) followed by 8 weeks cut (test and winny). Is this reasonable?

1.2g per lb of bw minimum

Just extend your cycle
But its smart not to cut during pct

Nigga.
Pin. After. Lifting.

Better cause smoother pinning if you know what i mean, and always no pip.
What's giving you pip, tren ace?

I hate this protein meme

it's per pound of lbm

> issa no for me

Lmao called out

But youre on roids
You need more protein and that should be a tiny difference
Cmon now

what happens after you complete your cycles and reach your goal?

>reach your goal
that doesn't happen

Well anons... it's time
How does it feel like to be normal testosterone?

Crazy thing is the doctor didn't even tell me when I got the results. I had to look at them myself

jesus fuck that's low, and that's even with a crushed shbg

are you 75? is your doctor offering to put you on trt or are you gonna self-medicate? I'm assuming he isn't offering since you said you had to look at the results yourself

I'm 21. I'm getting a second opinion at an endocrinologist's office. If I can't find a doctor that would actually help me, I'll just go ahead and self-medicate

>How does it feel like to be normal testosterone?

It feels normal, user. Which is awesome. When I started on TRT, I felt like I had removed a small anchor that was strapped to my waist. It's just easier to go through life.

My test wasn't as low as yours, though, so I'm betting it'll be even better for you.

Its like that other guy said, I like to think of it like youre out of a fog.
I never got test from an endo because i was in my 20s, but yours is low enough you could have some luck

jesus christ just buy the roids

it's hard to imagine a 21-year-old having test levels that low without any kind of underlying issue... do you have follicle stimulating hormone (fsh) and/or luteinizing hormone (lh) results? I think you're in for a bad time/something much more complicated than just TRT but maybe I'm just being overdramatic

REMINDER:
No amout of steroids will fix your BETA-AS-FUCK lack of personality, make you intelligent if you're dumb, make you funny if you have no sense of humor or a shit sense of humor, make you interesting if you're dull, make your face handsome if you're ugly, or make you taller if you're a manlet. They won't make you brave in the face of all the bullies that obviously dominated you, or make you stand up to your (step)father who used to beat you. It won't cure your crippling autism. It won't do ANYTHING other than give you circus-freak muscles that everyone knows are fake, making you more of a target for ridicule, mockery, and bullying.

>salty natty fudders
every time

I have 865 ng/dL naturally, never taken anything, and it just feels normal. In fact I get depressed occasionally and act like a faggot a lot so don't expect T to fix everything.

Nope. I just asked for a sex hormone panel and the only thing that she ordered was the estradiol and free/total test.

Honestly man, don't even care if I have 10 years left to live. I just wanna have those 10 years be good years

Do it man! Blast!

diff person, but if i take 300mg Test E at age 26 w/o and AI what are the chances of sides like gyno? ive taken before without AI and got minor gyno but i was also taking dbol and was younger, but that was my only side, is it safe to assume im pretty resistant and will be ok?

PSA; don't inject while hiccuping.

>anons thumbnail wasn't piss porn

felt like eating raw ground beef again today so I did

It made gay men and old ladies give me lots of money for free so it evened out I guess.

i ordered some vials of test and dnp from black market site on tor and i didnt encrypt my adressbecause i am not beta male
i liv in netherlands will i arreseted?

>tfw too intelligent to use pgp
If the market is seized europol will have access to all messages and there is a small chance they might investigate you.

What can I take to repair a shoulder injury that won't break the bank?

food, rest and light weights

Do that broomstick stretch where you bring it up over your head and down to the back with your arms straight. Helps with the majority of shoulder problems.

Also, band work can do wonders.

What's the injury?

are there any steroids that i can add to a tren cycle to make me feel like less of a sewer creature? i feel like nobody likes me and everyone who isnt a total bro secretly thinks negative things about me. i knew people did this before tren, i feel like normies look down and shit on me but as i get freakier, and the tren is fully kicked in by now, i actually care.

i also think daily about a situation that makes me depressed, i always thought about this before and it was sad but i just used to say fuck it, now i just accept i fucked up and all i can picture for my life is loneliness and tragedy.

its really a mind fuck, but im not willing to come off. would something like masteron give me good feels? im taking the bare minimum testosterone dose too, like a very minimal TRT dose. also popping a low dose of dbol everyday just for an added benefit, nothing major though. it definitely makes me feel better for a few hours at the gym.

like yesterday i went to the park to stretch and foam roll and shit and there was this chick sitting there reading and i didnt notice her until i basically walked up on her, when i noticed her i went as far away from her as i could because i felt like all she would be thinking of is, "get this sewer creature away from me"

im taking alot of kratom everyday which only helps a little bit. if someone can tell me that i will deal with this all cycle and theres nothing i can do ill just deal with it and push through. i just want some advice.

im not really depressed, im just back into old thought patterns i thought i had abandoned awhile ago. im not even that horny, im going to get bloodwork to see whats going on with estrogen but doesnt tren fuck around with e2 readings? if anything my estro is probably low normal to normal.

add primo? add masteron? up the dbol? add dhb? take oxycontin? anything

Woa lmao chill the fuck out bro up DHT

thats a strange thing to say, what does your low test or fixing that test have to do with only living 10 years? do u have a disease or something?

just get a vial of test and start taking 100mg a week and then after a month get a new panel and go from there. or you could rely on the doctor that obviously doesnt give a shit

why wouldnt you just get the proper cycle meds and do it right? instead of asking totally unanswerable questions on a mongolian basket weaving forum??? you sound kind of inept desu, maybe you shouldnt be taking steroids if you cant figure this shit out on your own

I think the back of my shoulder is torn. Been doing light weights for 3-4 months

How do I dose my ai?

Physical therapy. Go to a good DPT and have them set you up with a home exercise program.

Get a daki