Was it real?

Was it real?

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britannica.com/event/Balfour-Declaration
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacist_uprising
tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13531048808575933?journalCode=fjih19
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Days_Offensive
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vittorio_Veneto
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_of_Serbia,_Albania_and_Montenegro_(1918)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sardarabad
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Caucasus_expedition
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Baghdad_(1917)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pursuit_to_Haritan
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Megiddo_(1918)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Transjordan_attack
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jerusalem
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Bir_el_Hassana
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Why does that dude have tits?

i think i remember that the negotiators were largely jews

No.

>Germany went to war against the whole world and lost, clearly this is the jewish people's fault

Germany's military situation was untenable. The war was ultimately decided by the conditions on the battlefield not on what was happening on the homefront.

I remember the civil negioators being forced to take responsibility by the high command

>go to war
>get ass kicked
>"if the jews weren't here we would've won!"
>get rid of jews
>go to war
>get ass kicked

No, but keep in mind that when you lose that many lives in a war and then don't win the war, it's going to be seen as unacceptable.

Not really. War weariness was a pan-German sentiment, which is to blame on failures of the government to, well, win it or prepare for it better.

I've never seen someone summarize Germany during the WWI and WWII so well. congratulations.

Well, illuminating pic. So Jews were cannibal cooks in German Army. Interesting.

How can jews stab them in the back when shitloads of their best men were dying in the trenches?

Jews got stabbed in the back by Germans, they owned most of the arms production in Germany and therefore profited from the war.

You pressed Ctrl+A and replied without looking

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Obligatory.

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German autism caused the First World war, German autism lost the First World War, German autism caused the Second World War and German autism lost the Second World War
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makes sense, thank ya

Well, let me see.

Germany had been comprehensively defeated on the Western Front and at home they had been blockaded by the Brits for four years, leading to hundreds of millions of Germans literally starving to death.

Yes they had lost. It wasn't some magic conspiracy involving Jews and liberals and pixies dancing on a Moon made of green cheese.

No

Oops

*hundreds of thousands!

Is that Hitler in the middle of the soldiers lying down?

BIG KHAZAR MILKERS

I’ll be using this for now on.

>The Jews made Germany give up!
>Germany got an armistice before the war reached German soil
>before Italy could redeploy after Austria-Hungary collapsed
>Germany thus avoided the Italians attacking over the Alps at the same time as the ripshit-pissed Bongs and French and Americans attack through the Western Frontier

I'm still not seeing how Germany giving up when it did was a bad thing. The German Army couldn't stop the Allies before, how does anyone think they could have stopped them in 1919 on two different fronts?

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>Allies
Excuse me, Entente.

yes

No one with a brain thinks the German could win any time after the spring offensive was over. The Jew thing is just a way for but hurt Nazis to talk the German Empire up when in reality, an unconditional surrender would of meant Germany’s dissolution and Berlin starving before the winter ended.

>The British government hoped that the declaration would rally Jewish opinion, especially in the United States, to the side of the Allied powers against the Central Powers during World War I (1914–18). They hoped also that the settlement in Palestine of a pro-British Jewish population might help to protect the approaches to the Suez Canal in neighbouring Egypt and thus ensure a vital communication route to British colonial possessions in India.
britannica.com/event/Balfour-Declaration
Does this count?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacist_uprising
How is this even a question at this point?

Oh and there is also this tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13531048808575933?journalCode=fjih19
>The zionists emerged as a factor in United States policies during World War 1

>Spartacist Uprising

Why do people keep bringing up this insignificant fucking riot like it was a Hungarian or Russian-tier Red Terror?

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>a commie revolt AFTER the armistice was occurred and Germany sued for peace means the Jews destroyed their effort.

The absolute state of germ fags. Even if the revolt never happened and Germany still fought on see for the inevitable result.

The Hitler moustache was very common back then. As was the name Adolf (I have an Uncle Adolf who is in his 80s now)

I said this in the last thread about it, but let's go with the idea that the "stab in the back" was in fact true. Just disregard anything contrary, let's just say that's what actually happened.

Are you telling me that this situation is not preferable to a WW2 total defeat scenario where Germany is raped and pillaged and bombed into ruin? Germany was not going to win, it could merely delay the inevitable. The fact is if the stab in the back is true, it saved the lives of millions of Germans.

Simple. Because despite it being largely insignificant, put down fast and after the war it had a large number of jews in it. It really shows how desperate people are to cast blame on the Jews for the fall of Germany.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Council_Republic
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_State_of_Bavaria
Do these count (i know they aren't apart of the Spartacus uprisings)

>Serve in the Germany army at rates roughly equal to the German populace
>Never get any credit for it
>Realize that Germany is going to lose and that if they don't end the war now millions more Germans will die
>Stop the war to save your fellow Germans

Man, Jews really are the good guys.

The USPD and the SPD was highly jew domminated so it's true to an extent

>Never get any credit for it
Well I mean 18,000 jews received the Iron Cross for their service on the battlefield so clearly they did.

>Jews didn't stab Germany in the back?
>What about that time that they obviously did
>T-that was insignificant
Stay mad Schlomo
>AFTER the armistice was occurred and Germany sued for peace
>29th of October
>after the Armistice

Why do Stab in the Back deniers always resort to blatant lies?

I was more referring to that suppressed report that was supposed to prove that Jew weren't pulling their weight in the war only to have it report back that they were in fact doing so.

Jews served in the Heer at a higher rate than the general population of Germany.

>January 4th-15th, 1919

Can you even fucking read, Stormnigger?

it might have been better for everyone had a bunch of very much pissed off french soldiers driven the germans back, seen the destruction the germans had done to their lands and then paid them back tenfold
who knows, damage might have been big enough germany wouldn't have been capable of dreaming about starting another war

>January 1919
>Before November 1918

Is this some sort of extra dimensional time tracking?

The German revolution(s) started in October 1918

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19#Sunday,_10_November:_revolutionary_councils_elected,_Armistice
Read this and check the amount of jewish people mentioned

They started with a NAVY MUTINY, you dunderhead. A Navy Mutiny that didn't need any Ebil Joooooos to delude the poor patriotic German sailors to betray their country; they were starving and refused to give their lives so Tirpitz could say he sacrificed his command with honor.

This. Additionally, a revolution that successfully topples the entire Germany government is going to need a lot of public support. There's no way for the Jews to be able to pull it off themselves unless there's a lot of German citizens who think it'll improve their lot in life.

No shit nigger but the people who seized the German government were almost without exeption jewish.
>In the assembly that convened on 10 November in the Circus Busch, the majority stood on the side of the SPD: almost all Soldiers' Councils and a large part of the workers representatives. They repeated the demand for the "Unity of the Working Class" that had been put forward by the revolutionaries the previous day and now used this motto in order to push through Ebert's line. As planned, three members of each socialist party were elected into the "Council of People's Representatives": from the USPD, their chairman (((Hugo Haase))), the deputy Wilhelm Dittmann and (((Emil Barth))) for the Revolutionary Stewards; from the SPD Ebert, Scheidemann and the Magdeburg deputy (((Otto Landsberg))).

But the SDP fucked over the commies and called in the Freikorps to physically remove them.

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Well yah untill after WW2 the Bolshevik jews (spartacus) and the zionists (SPD in this instance) were in conflict.

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Untill the rise of hitler*

So

What.

That's not the "Stab in the Back". That's not the military refusing to fight any more, nor is it the revolution spreading by popular uprising. The establishment of the Weimar Republic is not a "Stab in the Back" to anyone but a full-on Stormkiddie wehraboo.

>this post
Holy brainlet Batman

Do you seriously not realize that within days the Jewish-led German unions and socialists had joined the mutineers and steered them towards the path of revolution? Was it the sailors who in the beginning of November overran the streets of Munich and overthrew the rightful king to install a communist regime?

Yes, peaceniks and germanic sympathizers stopped us from demanding unconditional surrender and marching all the way to berlin. It was some Isildur refusing to cast the ring into the fire tier shit.

Also why does he have titties? What corner of bosch's mind was that dredged from?

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Seriously, "It wasn't a Jewish uprising even though it was ran by Jews, taken advantage by Jews, and ended with a government entirely comprised by Jews"

On a scale of 9-10, how big is your nose?

Even Guderian in Achtung Panzer! admits that Germany had lost the war. Somehow this got past Nazi censors

That's because the Nazi government was Jewish, led by Adolf (((Shicklgruber))), in an effort to engineer the holohoax. Sacrificing 6 million European Jew-peasants was the bait they needed to toss to the intergalactic community to balance the scales on earth for a Jewish homeland.

Kind of. Most of the revolutions were far left, most of the leaders of them were Jews.
But by 1917 the army which was overwhelmingly ethnic German was pretty much done. had the home front held out, it wouldn't have changed Germany's situation much.

It was real in my mind
t. Ludendorff

The theory is that they fucked them in the negotiations.

Replace German solder with Polish solder and it will be true

>run by Jews
The Navy wasn't fucking Jewish.
>taken advantage by Jews
They were already chanting "Peace and Bread" on their own. They were fed up with how the war was being prosecuted and wanted it to end.
>ended with a government entirely comprised by Jews
That is a damned lie. Of the leaders of the SPD in the initial founding of the Weimar Republic, only Hugo Preuß was a practicing Jew. Everyone else was a good Prussian Protestant. And even then, Preuß wrote a completely benign federal republican constitution, so you can't blame him for Communism.

explain how this theory could be possible when Germany got off extremely easy

>The theory is that they fucked them in the negotiations.

Why? Why on fucking earth would they do that?
>do ho ho, we just got supreme power over ALL of Germany, finally! Our supreme plan is at hand! And that plan is...to fuck over the country we just took power over for NO REASON! BWUAHAHAHA!

Even if it wasn't completely wrong on the face of it (Versailles was not as harsh as the Wehraboos whine about), it doesn't make any fucking sense.

>It was some Isildur refusing to cast the ring into the fire tier shit.
consider this, lord of the rings was written during ww2 and is about a weakened alliance of many nations having to fight a resurgent evil they previously defeated at great cost when they were all much stronger, but then were unable to utterly destroy because of "the weakness of man"

it was almost certainly based on current events

>BUT MUH NEGOTIATIONS
Nigger, I'm still amazed the English and French didn't just force Germany to revert back to a mosaic of irrelevant statelets. I know I would have, and it was a perfectly enforceable policy given the post war situation.

>tfw this would probably prevent the destruction and cleansing of Prussia

There was no stab in the back. Germany was defeated militarily and economically.

Only Jews and Communists think it didn't happen.

The stab-in-the-back was the Eternal Anglo tricking the USA into the war. Which of course ended up being the decisive event that caused Germany to lose.

Well if Germany wasn't so keen on killing American citizens by resuming unrestricted submarine warfare they might have been able to convince the Americans the telegram wasn't real

>The Navy wasn't fucking Jewish.
So we're their no Jews in the navy or something? I thought Jews supposedly served at a disproportionately high rate, I guess they all forgot the navy existed huh?

>unrestricted submarine warfare
You mean sinking boats carrying war munitions?

>Group A has 10000 members
>Group B has 1000 members
>both groups send 100 members to an event
>Group A has 1% representation at this event
>Group B has 10% representation, disproportionate to their numbers

Statistics aren't hard, user. And yes, most Jews served in the German Army...because the German State was based around its armies so they were vastly larger than the Navy which was a recent creation.

>Killing citizens from neutral nations has no consequences on diplomacy because it was justified
No wonder Germany lost with fuckwits like you in the foreign ministry

>Zimmermann Telegram was an Anglo trick

You might have been able to convince America of that...if Germany hadn't immediately admitted that yes, it was real and they really did send that to Mexico.

The fact that Caesar had already been stabbed a dozen times doesnt negate the fact that Brutus stabbed Caesar as well. That's the pesky little detail that mythfags always skirt around.

Germany WAS stabbed in the back, the fact that it wasn't the cause of their defeat is irrelevant. If youre hopelessly losing a sports game and in the last minutes your own teammate deliberately scores an own goal, you still have justifiable reason to be pissed at the betrayal even if you were already going to lose.

>not destroying munitions ships because the Eternal Anglo tricked American bystanders into being passengers
I never said anything about that telegram you dumbfuck, I was talking about the sinking of the Lusitania

So once again, you're claiming that no Jews served in the German navy?

It's really a hilariously pathetic argument.

Even before any supposed "Jewish stabbings" happened (i.e. the spartacist revolt), the war situation for Germany was dire

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_the_Marne

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Amiens_(1918)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Days_Offensive

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Vittorio_Veneto

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberation_of_Serbia,_Albania_and_Montenegro_(1918)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sardarabad

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Caucasus_expedition

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Baghdad_(1917)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pursuit_to_Haritan

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Megiddo_(1918)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Transjordan_attack

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jerusalem

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_Bir_el_Hassana

Their war and strategic situation was in the shitter, but in typical autistic fashion they scapegoated a group that had loyally fought for them. Truly a disgraceful race of """people"""

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I never understood this picture. Why tits?

This is a good post.

>commies wanting to spread their autistic revolution one year after the wae means kikes are backstabbing traitors

Oh nonono sweetie

Is putting words in people's mouths the only way you know how to argue? No, I'm not saying that. However, this is irrelevant, unless you are attempting to claim that all 40,000 mutineers were Jewish. Neither Karl Artelt and Lothar Popp (the sailors who actually led the mutiny) were Jewish.

>scapegoated a group that had loyally fought for them.
This meme is truly getting old.
Spreading Communism in the ranks of the armed services is not loyally fighting.

>Germany WAS stabbed in the back, the fact that it wasn't the cause of their defeat is irrelevant.
>Even though the Jews didn't actually make Germany lose the war, they're still to blame for Germany losing the war!
This is your brain on National Socialism.

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Any evidence it was kikes who was spreading communism on the soldier you enormous cretin

>ITT: We pretend the Spartacist uprising happened in a spontaneous vacuum and had no connection to the mutinies and strikes that occurred during the war.

Give me a source of German Jewish soldiers "spreading communism in the ranks of the armed services"

Are you implying that the mutiny was caused by soldiers being indoctrinated by communists instead of the situation becoming an insane clusterfuck?

Because it sounds a lot more reasonable that soldiers would mutiny over the war literally tearing the country apart.

Yes it does not
Sparticist uprising was just an attempt by commies to usurp power,it has nothing to do with the central powers getting their shit kicked in and the sailors not wanting to die because an autistic admiral wants to preserve his honor

The Lusitania was sunk in 1915. I don't know if you noticed, but the United States did not enter into WW1 in 1915. They entered in 1917, after Germany started sinking AMERICAN ships, and after Germany put out the absolute diplomatic farce that was the Zimmermann Telegram. How stupid do you have to be to outright admit you're trying to bribe a neutral country's neighbor into attacking them so they can't get involved in your war? If I didn't know better, I'd say Joachim von fucking Ribbentropp was actually responsible for it.

Post names of those Jewish-led German unions.

>Even though the Jews didn't actually make Germany lose the war, they're still to blame for Germany losing the war!

Nice strawman.
I don't believe the Jews cost Germany the war, I simply believe that Germans had every right to feel butthurt over Jewish meddling in their country and it's perfectly understandable that the Jews wound up in camps.

>but not ALL Jews!
Who cares?
If Jews don't want to catch blame for things then they should stop taking up disproportionate positions in controversial social movements.

Someone had to have been doing it. Since Jews have an objective proclivity to join leftwing movements I think it's a pretty safe bet that loads of the soldiers spreading Communism among the ranks were Jewish.

Yeah I'm sure they circumsized each naval officer and made sure not to serve on saturday.

And the general strikes that occurred had no connection to the Communists too I suppose?

>Someone had to have been doing it.

Why did someone have to be doing it. There's a far better explanation for why soldiers mutinied. The situation was becoming an absolute clusterfuck and they lost confidence in their military and government for entirely legitimate reasons.