The Troubles

From my personal opinion, yes but it wont be anytime soon, maybe in a few decades. The unionist parties dont appeal to the younger generations they are so out of touch while many of the republican parties are much more inclusive. The unionist parties only try to appeal to the older generations and older way of thinking, " they are enemies" while the republican ones are more of convincing people to make them vote with them. Even when I go outside and speak to unionists they talk about how they dislike the radical unionists who go to all the marches and attack people.

Why did anons never talk about history in good faith ?

Didnt mention it but the agreement that basically ended the troubles said that if both the north and south voted for it they would reunite. Thats why the nationalist/republican parties are focusing on a more peaceful in my opinion more convincing route. The nationalists also are focusing on having a much more joking social media presence. There is videos of the top men of sinn fein going down a kids slide. The main leader is making himself into a joking persona trying to humanize himself, he posts pictures of himself with his rubber duck collection all the time. Although the south isnt ready to take the north back. When I went around down south it was just awful looking compared to the north. so many homeless, druggies and abandoned buildings everywhere. Its bad in the north but I dont think its as bad

Because only bitter weirdos like OP come here

Antarctica

>drunk at 1:34 PM
Wow the Irish truly are subhuman

>forgetting the Penguin genocide of the subarctic krill.

But much google and GDP and shit?

I have not, this is just from me exploring big cities down south and up north

>Throughout the entire period of the Famine, Ireland was exporting enormous quantities of food to Britain. Although the potato crop failed, the country was still producing and exporting more than enough grain crops to feed the population.

>In 1847, Almost 4,000 ships carried food from Ireland to the ports of Bristol, Glasgow, Liverpool, and London, when 400,000 Irish men, women, and children died of starvation and related diseases.

>Irish exports of calves, livestock, bacon, and ham actually increased during the Famine. This food was shipped under British military guard from the most famine-stricken parts of Ireland.

>When Ireland had experienced a famine in 1782–83, ports were closed to keep Irish-grown food in Ireland to feed the Irish. Local food prices promptly dropped. British merchants lobbied against the export ban, but the Irish Parliament in the 1780s overrode their protests. No such export ban happened in the 1840s partially because Ireland's Parliament was abolished by Britain in 1800.

Sir Charles Trevelyan, British Government administrator in charge of famine relief described the famine as a "mechanism for reducing surplus population" and said: "The judgement of God sent the calamity to teach the Irish a lesson, that calamity must not be too much mitigated. The real evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the Famine, but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the people."

In letter to the Chief Poor Law Commissioner, Edward Twisleton, Trevelyan wrote "We must not complain of what we really want to obtain. If small farmers go, and their landlords are reduced to sell portions of their estates to persons who will invest capital we shall at last arrive at something like a satisfactory settlement of the country".

Why discuss history in good faith when i can just declare my viewpoint and dismiss any evidence produced?

>The idea of Irelands began during the English lordship

Incorrect there was a high king and lineage of high kings of Ireland while Britain was literally in the dark ages. If anything Ireland has infinitely more pedigree as a nation than Britain or England.

>then the entire island of Ireland would be under the crown right now

As if Catholics being under an absolute monarch that by law could never be Catholic would ever have been acceptable. Delusion. Henry VIII was a mistake.

I don't think I've ever seen a more historically illiterate post in my entire life. Anglos truly never, ever, ever learn.

Ireland is a history of inept foreign rule, and before that it's a history of pretty cool Game of Bogs with an eventual Viking Invasion.
Most irish rebellions were not for true independence, but more for self rule as the English were so utterly godawful at running Ireland.
The most hilarious thing is that were England to accept that an island full of people who while not politically united are undeniably united in faith, culture and law would all likely happily be in a union with England were they allowed to continue their way of life. When even Catholic England turned Irish society on its head wherever they wen they fucked it up forever. There is no greater metaphor for England's empire building than Ireland; show up, get confused at natives wanting to exist, ship your own people over, have your own people killed or turn against you, lose almost all the land and then hang on to little chunks of it for sake of sentiment and stability. Humiliating.

>hang on to little chunks of it for sake of sentiment
another dim plastic
it's like there's a factory that presses you out

I'm not from America or Ireland. To imply that an English history of Ireland isn't a history of embarrassing, fumbled campaigns is sheer denial.
The little chunks comment was a joke, they only example of that which I can really think of is Northern Ireland itself, although I don't think the British care about it in the same way they care for Falklands/Gibraltar.

no one cares about NI that's what plastics never understand
it was a flipper baby that the british government were saddled with because home rule talks broke down and the unionists refused to be part of the south and started an arms race
you might get the odd right wing crank in government who's partial but most of them wish NI didn't exist

That's sort of what I was getting at. English-Irish history is fascinating but in regards to National Pride isn't something English people really go on about, except for the "reem memes for right wing teens" crowd or /pol/ who think the DUP are the best thing since sliced bread.

ITT BOGGERS LIE AGAIN AND AGAIN

The loyalist people will never bend the knee to the left wing cuckolds of the (((republic.))) We are a proud people, our place in Ulster is ours by right both modern and ancient. Our culture goes back hundreds of years, prior to the notion of an irish "nation" existing. England is 1000+ years old, and has been the longest ever existing collective and coherant nation on the isles.

WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER TO IRISH TYRANTS.
ULSTER IS FREE.

>although I don't think the British care about it in the same way they care for Falklands/Gibraltar

Most people on the mainland don't even know that Northern Ireland is a part of the United Kingdom. More attention has been placed on them recently though due to the Brexit vote and them being in coalition with the current government. They're usually resented for being way more conservative than other parts of the country and for being dodgy as fuck ex-terrorists (politicians at least)

Ulster has more bogs than Leinster.