Last stands

What are some historical last stands Veeky Forums ?

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Germany during ww2

Battle of Thermopylae

Naziboos sure are delusional.

OP here, I just wanted to make a comfy thread to discuss epic last stands. Please don't ruin it.

>waaaah people are responding to my thread

Why don't you just ignore him idiot
Also sacred band of Thebes vs Philip 2

Ned Kelly

Last stand of the Confederacy

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sailor's_Creek

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The Alamo. Its literally the battle of Thermopylae of north america

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Those fags gave him a nice fight for sure.

The Fort Vaux last stand was pretty brutal, with flamethrower and grenade combat for days in dark narrow tunnels

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the viking at stamford is pretty dubious and not mentioned in any norse accounts

At the end, corridors were littered with corpses, and the surviving French had been drinking their own piss for days before finally surrendering, unable to endure the thirst any longer

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Why does the Hagia Sophia have minarets fuck this is triggering me

>I'd consider these last stands just because of the odds against them, even in spite of them winning
>Rorkes drift

Might as well count Mount Tabor there too in this case

Dumb question, would the Germans have suffered a casualty rate this severe if they had been forced to attack the Maginot Line (let's say the French had extended it up to Belgium in the 30s or Hitler had decided not to repeat the international embarrassment of WWI and left the Low Countries alone)?

In WW2 bombers were a thing
They'd have bombed the forts to shit

The Maccbean War should have been a last stand of poorly armed fanatics versus Persia and Helenized Jews but somehow with Judas Maccabeus, the Hammer of the Jews, leading resulted in decisive Jewish victory after victory and independence.

Jews vs Roman wars were particularly brutal and had a number of last stands.

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It’s corroborated by the anglo-saxon chronicles though

Or like when the entire Arab world invaded Palestine and it should have been a last stand but then the Arabs got BTFO. Or like when they tried it two more times with sneak attacks and lost more land each time.

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Sabaton playlist
The post

I will never understand why arabas suck so much at war.

It is mentioned in King Harald's saga verily. Please read it. It's amazing.

Admittedly it isn't contemporary.

The Election of Donald Trump.

I have read it, but I cant remember it mentioned, Do you have a excerpt from the saga?

This

Alway remr

Weren't those written by an Icelandic man 200 years after they happened?

Theres like two of them that are sabaton songs

How fucked twisted is your fucking brain by leftism that you can't even recognize that the fall of Berlin was a historical last stand?

Jesus Christ get it together.

That's why I said they're not contemporary, but thanks for letting me know that you have the ability to google things like authors.

Yeah Snorri Sturluson the guy who wrote a lot of sagas and Harald's saga is by far the best.

Sigurd Jorsalfares saga is pretty good too aswell as Haakon Haakonsons saga (though it is written by the son of Snorre)

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The Swiss delivered a at the time famous last stand action at the battle of the Birs, the later pope Pius II was present and deeply moved. Apparently a small vanguard of Swiss ignored orders, stumbled into 35k French soldiers and then decided to attack them anyways. After 6 hours of battle all Swiss were dead, 2-4k French was made KIA in the process and the Swiss got their rep because they refused any surrender or call for quarters and fought down to the last man.
The French got the message and withdrew deep back into France before the Swiss main showed up and never returned until Napoleons times.

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>French Foreign Legion
>all three names are French

Lmao

Roman Maniple system. Every fucking time the last line had to fight really was amazing to read about. Those guys held out a long time against Hanibal

Marines and Soldiers slugging it out at the Chosin Reservior

>ywn stack commies you beat to death with a frozen dismembered arm on top of each other and live to tell about it

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Last stand of the Spanish Tercio at Rocroi
They held against hordes of angry Frenchmen, after German and Belgian troops had ran away in fear

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A lot of the Maginot Line is underground though.

Kush vs Rome.

Thats not a last stand. Try again fatty.

Bambara vs. Moroccan cavalry

"Guns might not upset the balance of power even when borne by cavalry.
The Bambaras, for example, who were equipped with only “poisoned arrows
and sabres”, still managed to defeat Moroccan-backed cavalry armies from
the western desert with substantial numbers of firearms three times in the
first two decades of the eighteenth century. 79 At about the same time, the
people of Khasso, feared as attackers all along the Senegal, were also armed
entirely with bows and poisoned arrows even as late as 1729"

It was not a last stand idiot.

So, you don't know what "last stand" means? Try reading up.

>Soon the German and Walloon tercios fled from the battlefield, while the Spanish remained on the field with their commander, repulsing four more cavalry charges by the French and never breaking formation, despite repeated heavy artillery bombardment.

>d'Enghien finally offered surrender conditions just like those obtained by a besieged garrison in a fortress. Having agreed to those terms, the remains of the two tercios left the field with deployed flags and weapons.[7]

BASED

If you survive it, it isn't a last stand.

So how exactly does this qualify as last stand?

>9:1 vs 30:1
yeah, no

>A last stand is a military situation where a (normally) small defensive force holds a position against a significantly more powerful attacking force, often (though not necessarily) as their final act before being defeated.

Are you retarded?

Are you?

underrated. Mad lad just wanted to help his bros. :(

Don't call me if you don't last stand this fucking hard.

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This, but I always rooted for the Turk side.

This guy doesn't understand what's a last stand and then post the definition, because he think he is smart, when he is clearly dumb, and after you ask "are you"?

>A last stand is a military situation in which a body of troops holds a defensive position in the face of overwhelming odds.

you dumb user

Technically not a last stand because the defenders won but if you look at the map, you'll see that the Confederates were pretty much boxed in with no means of escape. It was win or die.

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>9:1
Only at the end
For hours they held at 14:1 (2,500 vs 35,000)

>30:1
Yeah nah
250 vs 3,000 = 12:1
26:1 at most if you discount the cavalry for Brits and take the highest Zuly estimate

Anyway, I think that late 18th century French infantry armed with muskets holding at 14:1 for hours against Turkish cavalry and infantry is more impressive than late 19th century British infantry armed with rifles and maxim guns holding at 26:1 against a bunch of spears-wielding apes straight out of the neolithic

>A last stand is a military situation in which a body of troops holds a defensive position in the face of overwhelming odds. The defensive force usually takes very heavy casualties or is completely destroyed
>completely destroyed

I'm not dumb, you don't know how to read a definition, please re-read the definition. I get a IQ of 147.

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I guess you are pretty smart then for a Bambara. Your example still has jackshit to do with a last stand.

I'm an aryan.

In its early years, the FFL was mostly a French unit with some foreigners in it
It's only after it distinguished itself in battles like Camaron and Tuyen Quang that it started to attract lots of foreigners

Battle of the Persian Gate where 700 Persians held Alexander for an entire month.

>Spartans only held for 3 days.

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No, rank and file always was predominantly foreign, but the officer corps is traditionally almost completely French.

Are you actually shocked to learn the Angevins come from Anjou?

At the beginning, even ranks were full of French citizens
I remember seeing a list with all the names of the 65 legionaries of Camaron a while ago, and tons of them had French names
Then you'd also have a lot of Dutch (like a surprisingly high percentage for such a small irrelevant country) and a few Spanish and Italians

Napoleon's last stand against the world

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>and tons of them had French names
Maybe because they each get a new name once entering? Doesn't make them French citizens until after they served their time.
And the Foreign legion was created to compensate for the Swiss who didn't serve France no more. Orignially most guys in the Legion was Swiss, Alsacian, Belgian and from various other countries.

>Maybe because they each get a new name once entering?
No they didn't, that's why a lot still had their foreign names (which looked mostly Dutch)

>Orignially most guys in the Legion was Swiss, Alsacian, Belgian and from various other countries.
Well, maybe some of the French names were Belgians or Swiss then (and maybe some of the Dutch names were Belgian too)

According to records, the Legion consisted of 6000 man at the time of their first battle in Algiers 1832, 40% of those was German and Swiss, mostly from the German/French regiment Hohenlohe and various veteran Swiss/French regiments, which made the nucleus of professional soldiers. Other large contingents came from the Dutch, Belges, Italians, Spanish and Poles.

Siege of Szigetvár
>More than 20,000 Turks had fallen during the attacks and almost all of Zrinski's 2,300 man garrison was killed, with most of the final 600 men killed on the last day.[4] Although the battle was an Ottoman victory, it stopped the Ottoman push to Vienna that year. Vienna was not threatened again until the Battle of Vienna in 1683.[6]
>The importance of the battle was considered so great that the French clergyman and statesman Cardinal Richelieu was reported to have described it as "the battle that saved civilization."[3]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Szigetvár

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>Both commanders died during the battle—Zrinski in the final charge and Suleiman in his tent from natural causes

That's what happens when your general is named after a dolphin.

>Never returned until Napoléon's times
I think it was mostly because the french defeated the swiss at Marignano (An extremly bloody battle of both side, which lasted 16 hours, with horse charges, artillery fires and pike movement) until the Venetians and their balkan raiders came. The swiss lost 1% of their population at Marignano, it's like if today the swiss lost 83720 men on a single day on a single battle against the frogs. Afterwards they made a treaty of Eternal Peace which Napoléon brokened.

It would have been for anybody else, faggot.

The "Dauphiné" ("Dolphinship", though the term is impossible to translate) is the name of a land, originally of the Holy Roman Empire, that was sold to the King of France. And then came the tradition of always giving the Crown Prince of France this land so he could train on ruling. Hence why he was called "Le Dauphin" (The Dolphin).
Note that this Louis Dolphin of France was maybe not the greatest tactician or man-leading knight that France ever had (And in France being full of honor and courageous was serious business), but he was quite astute politically and military ; He would spend his life trying to form an infantry based on the Swiss bands that his heir would disband because they were too costly and the french nobility is always afraid of armed commoners. Louis XI also spent his life as King paying up the swiss in secret so they could fuck up Charles the Bold of Burgundy, and eventually get his hands on his lands after he had his skull split by an axe at Nancy.

It nearly wouldve been thanks to MacArthur's colossal faggotry.

You are a brainlet, the Battle for Britain was a more verifiable last stand than anything the Germans ever encountered. They surrendered.

>Dolphinship

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Apparently the Swiss vanguard disobeyed direct orders, crossed a river and took the field against a 30k-40k French army under command of the crown prince itself. One company fucked it up, got stuck in the river and cut down, the other 1200 guys or so battled it out with the French, holding the field with their pike hedgehog formation all day. They must have caused massive casualties with the French and declined all offers for honorable terms. After being completely exhausted and fucked up by French missile fire, they retreated to the local pest asylum and its enclosed graveyard where they took their last stand. Chronicles tell of guys pulling crossbow bolts from their bodies and hooting them right back or a fellow who managed to dehorse a knight with a stone. In the end, all got killed.
On one hand they fucked it all up and got killed to the man, on the other hand the French army did a 180 and walked away, so that was pretty good for Switzerland. Also this was the starting point after which the Swiss got hired as mercs, some Italian guy that would later become pope Pius II wrote a dramatic "first" hand account of the battle and that fame was enough to get them started.

>Afterwards they made a treaty of Eternal Peace which Napoléon brokened.
You w8 mate?
St. Jacob was 1444, Marignano was at 1515 and far away in Italy, Ewige Richtung was 1516, and Napoleon was 1797. Get your shit together.

For you casualties argument, the next year the French king met the Swiss, paid them 700k gold coins and hired 20'000+ Swiss for mercenary services in Italy. In exchange the Swiss had to give up their own expansionary politics. The Swiss managed to loose another couple ten thousand men every now and then in Italy for the next 50 years or so in Italy, apparently it didn't make no dent in their population.

>Louis XI also spent his life as King paying up the swiss in secret so they could fuck up Charles the Bold of Burgundy, and eventually get his hands on his lands after he had his skull split by an axe at Nancy.
Aye, that fucker did, better than GoT real life political intrigue from the late medieval. He payed the tiny City Republic Berne so they'd start a border conflict with Burgundy and draw out Charles the Bold, they succeeded and it became a full out Burgundian Swiss war, Charles lost two armies in Switzerland and later got killed at Nancy. Burgundy was destroyed with him and most became French turf. And all it took was a cartload full of gold, Fucking Flawless

uhh they basically got shot to death even as the officers were asking for defeat
then when they were allowed to flee, peasants massacred them

Officers are french in the FFL you brainlet.

that's because you are a Turk

Yeah last stand of Constantine XI Palaeologus, knowing that he and his guards would die but still going for it.

Wish Mehmed had respected at least that.

>those beautiful maneuvers around Paris