Caribbean Piracy

How did it become such a romanticized caricature of history, loved as Halloween costumes, and Disney movies, when the reality was almost certainly bleak and very violent. Are there any other examples of history essentially getting the disney treatment en masse?

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Because a bunch of wacky rogues doung what they want not being held back by anything is exciting

>people with exotic clothes and tattoos show up at your shitty French port
>they have amazing food and booze and they're all partying and drunk and fighting all the time
>they bring with them valuable sugar and other crops that you'd sell your testicles for
>they tell everyone great stories about how they shanked motherfuckers who got in the way of their booty
>they sail away and leave you lonely and cold and deprived of their amazing goods so you fantasize about being a pirate and drinking rum all the time

That is without a doubt the cutest pirate I’ve ever seen

Why did it die out? You would think that Haitians would at least make attempts at it.

Because privateers were conflated into the piracy mythology, so you got the cutthroat brigands element mixed with the suave rogue of the seas (privateers were effectively seafaring mercs, middle or upper class men acting and dressing middle or upper class and getting treated at home as middle or upper class) making for a wholly irrealistic but very enticing end product.

Because if they try to start that shit again they will always get BTFO,especially in american waters

Monarchy.

In the 1920s people were still struggling against the hereditary oppressor, and by the 1950s we all had that idealized version of kings, princesses and nobles cavorting with happy village peasants. What the fuck happened?

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To be more accurate, most of the pirate myths stems from the caribbeans, which were 90% anglo-french-dutch privateers preying on spanish colonies. The barbary pirates aren't romanticized, nor are chinese pirates, because by and large pirates are considered scum everywhere. It's literally just the privateers being improperly thrown in that cause caribbean piracy to be romanticized.

Because the British navy grew big enough to completely stop piracy.
and
>blacks
>successful piracy

>pirates
>opposing the monarchy

wew lad

Somali pirates have enjoyed marginal success.

Piracy relies on having neutral ports accepting you to sell your shit and make a profit. Once the big colonial wars between caribbean powers were over and the trade interdictions between colonies were removed, there was no point in dealing with pirate scum.

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That was a response to his question of any other parts of history getting the Disney treatment.

Because being a pirate was likely much better than being press ganged onto her majesty’s ship.

>Somali pirates have enjoyed marginal success.

Being used for live target practice by US Navy SEALs isn't really being successful.

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Some samoli got rich off of it. Nowadays the waters off the coast of samoli are generally secure, but for awhile there they were having success

1) Pirate Romanticization is largely an Anglo thing. And with good reason as the 18th Century was a time of social upheaval in England, what with a huge as fuck population of middle classes emerging out of the English Civil War and the Glorious Revolution, where being anti-authority made you fucking cool to the masses.

This was also a time when Highwaymen in Britain were also pop-culture icons.

2) What made it worse was because during that time, pic related was published.

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So it would seem.

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A*glos glorifying crimes against the Spanish empire

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>muthafuckin black bart

Captured the most ships of any pirate in history

There's a guy called 'Captain England'

Check out the bling

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Is this a good read? The oldest book I've ever read is Wealth of Nations but this looks much more interesting.

How could you actually sit down and resolve "today I'm going to read 'The Wealth Of Nations' by 18th Century philosopher Adam Smith because gee i sure am into economic theory and the study of the free market"?

Econ class lmao. I knew mentioning that book would trigger some g*rman commies

No, I'm just saying that it would be incredibly boooring

YAGGD 'BARRO

It does two things.
1) Sensationalize the activities of the Caribbean pirates.
2) Fap over the Libertarian Paradise that they created over there.

German commies love that book though. Das Kapital, authored by the OG (original German) commie is heavily based on classical economics like Smith and Ricardo. In fact the most common criticism of communist economics comes from marginalism and subjective theory of value which deviate away from classical economics.

Actually it's coming back now slowly.

Native Americans.

The english had nothing of worth to romantize and they went with smugglers and stealers.Romanticism in a nutshell

Walt Disney happened.

>18th Century was a time of social upheaval in England
This is true. Jacobite sentiment was huge among Caribbean pirates and many were openly pro-Stuart.

Ahem

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Yep the Anne in "Queen Anne's Revenge" is the last of the Stuarts to sit the Throne.

to be fair, chinese pirates are beginning to become more romanticised thanks to the state's attempt reinterpret history. Whilst the early wako pirates are still demonised (mainly due to them being cast as overwhelmingly japanese and thus evil) there has recently been huge interest both from historians and in chinese popular culture in looking at pirates during the qing dynasty as the state pushes to show that dynasty's failings. Captain of Destiny is a good example and whilst there hasn't been many interpretations put to screen yet, as china gets more and more into high budget film and tv productionI guarantee more will start cropping up .

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Yeah but really, interest born in the 00s and 10s is pretty much the product of western pirates becoming fashionable again in the west. It's not so much the figure/character of the chinese pirate that inspires these works, it's Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom recast in chinese style.

>Chinese pirates are beginning to become more romanticised thanks to the state's attempt reinterpret history.
>Beginning
Nah.

Koxinga was the first romanticized Chinese pirate. Fucking worshipped as an ancestral god even.

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Short answer: Anglos

I'd definitely agree that the resurgence of pirates in popular culture in the west had a huge impact in China but I think it just fuelled an already present interest. The similarities in timing and style to western works i think is more a reflection of China's relation to media/art as a while rather than sudden fascination with pirates born from Pirates of the Caribbean. From 1949 up until just the last decade China's cultural production was heavily curtailed(with the exception of a small period up until Tiananmen Square). However now they have the money, resources and a somewhat willing state to tell these tales of course these studios who have never made a pirate film are going to ape Western cinema. People's standards are too high to accept the shitty bmovie style of 60s/70's pirate flicks anymore and pirate films are notoriously expensive to make. Moreover the recent interest in the west cant account for the huge popularity of plays/films and books about pirates such as Cheung Po Tsai which have been in production of over half a century now. Not to mention the fact his supposed hideout has been printed on maps for just as long and is a hugely popular destination for Chinese tourists in the area.

True, but i'm talking more widespread. ofc small coastal villages are gunna revere him, without his piracy and smuggling all of these villages would have been wiped off the map by the famines in 1640's to 60's but its only more recently he's got more mainstream/mainland attention, this due a lot to his ming loyalism and his actions in regard to Taiwan.