Prove that god exists please

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

prove that god exists please

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Techpill
Techpill

Prove that a Flying Spaghetti Monster exists

5mileys
5mileys

God exists
God exists
You wont find logic any more formal than that
b-but
No buts, atheshits

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

wtf i'm a #Godmissile now

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Prove that you can request that without God existing

Techpill
Techpill

I have a 2 foot long dick. Ergo, God.

Evilember
Evilember

You're a clever one, user.

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

you are a sapient being not a philosophical zombie, it stands to reason that sapience is a part of this universe although no known physical laws explain it and that the entire universe as a whole must exhibit this property, for why would it be limited to your brain, god is everywhere, god is all knowing

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

what is proof

farquit
farquit

If god doesn't exist, who wrote the bible?

checkmate fedora tippers

happy_sad
happy_sad

your sapience is proof and I explained it, much the same way that a scientist might show you a chart and show you how it proves so and so using math

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

And who wrote the koran?
and who wrote the bagva-gita

Playboyize
Playboyize

Satan

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Are you saying that your previous post PROVES that God exists?

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Ignoramus
Ignoramus

In the case of the Koran, God, directly.

In the case of the Bhagavad Gita, God, indirectly.

Soft_member
Soft_member

xtianity
xlam
xaism
xhism
xuism
nothing other than imaginary cults
tippity top kek

massdebater
massdebater

Kant already showed it's not possible to prove the existence of God, the only kinds of faith left are practical moral and revelatory. Pick one if you're that dead set on God existing, there is no way to prove it.

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iluvmen
iluvmen

Aquinas already did
Read

Snarelure
Snarelure

Aquinas already did
See

Emberburn
Emberburn

Why does god write so many holy books? To confuse people?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

To spread his message?

Obviously, the divine spirit is in anyone when they write something that is going to have a beneficial aspect on others. The opposite, Satan, is within him, who creates evil literature.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Prove that l exist

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

But all religions dont have the same message

whereismyname
whereismyname

Kant was a manlet.

Opinion discarded.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Wow compelling and well thought out argument godcuck

MPmaster
MPmaster

The vast majority of worthwhile philosophers were short. I'll give you Hume and Hobbes, but as far as I know Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Hegel, Kant, Locke, Rosseau, Descartes, and Spinoza, for a start, were under 5'11

viagrandad
viagrandad

Going to get medieval on you user:

God is the greatest thing one can imagine. The greatest thing one can imagine must be real or it is not the greatest thing. Ergo, God must be real. (Citation needed).

I wish I could remember who it was that came up with this, we talked about it in an intro level euro class tho.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

St. Anselm is credited with the outline, Descartes according to whom you ask is the first to concretely formulate the argument. But as Schopenhauer says, "the Ontological Argument is really just a charming joke": I wouldn't take this too seriously.

Emberburn
Emberburn

The majority of them do.

And some religions, like Taoism, even speak of a God as well.

When you accept that the Abrahamic God has to be the only God who exists, your life becomes much better.

Flameblow
Flameblow

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Januarius#Blood

God is real, and he hates Vatican II

SniperGod
SniperGod

Anselm of Canterbury first argued this. Though it's flawed since if God exists only as an idea in the mind, then all this means is that we can imagine something that is greater than the idea of God in the mind , not greater than a God who actually exists.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Faith is some cool shit, my man.

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

god of the gaps

girlDog
girlDog

Flying spaghetti monsters don't have the power to create existence and universes or else they would be called God and not flying spaghetti monsters.

viagrandad
viagrandad

As someone who believes in God, people like irritate me. Nobody with an actual faith in something shouldn't use "it can't be explained" as a justification.

Inmate
Inmate

I think more it is arrogant and blasphemous to pretend you could explain god beyond belief

Methnerd
Methnerd

god is both in-itself and for-itself
value is both in-itself and for-itself
ergo, value is god
read marx

Flameblow
Flameblow

Nietzsche, Schopenhauer, Hegel, Kant, Locke, Rosseau, Descartes, and Spinoza
good
On the other hand
The sources of Diogenes account for this fact by claiming that his wrestling coach, Ariston of Argos, dubbed him Platon, meaning "broad," on account of his robust figure

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WebTool
WebTool

Neither does le cloudy beard man and yet here we are

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Yeah, check out this load of blasphemy

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Nojokur
Nojokur

I didn't say the bible. I said you as a human.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

If he is God then yes he does have that power.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Diogenes is a Stoic meme.

I agree that Hegel and Neetch are questionable, but bitch you'd better not be bad-mouthin Immanuel and Arthur

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girlDog
girlDog

That's the point of faith, user.

farquit
farquit

he can be supernatural because I say he can!

Wow it's really like a kid with an imaginary friend

viagrandad
viagrandad

Theologians have been understanding the Bible for thousands of years. Are you saying that they are all aliens?

cum2soon
cum2soon

Let me do a scientific experiment. If God exists, let him stop me posting

idontknow
idontknow

If every bad thing is brought by Satan, why did God create Satan?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

God exists

And just like that, I'm converted!

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Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Still posting

Methnerd
Methnerd

B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but free will!

Flameblow
Flameblow

aquinas proved the existence of a creator of the universe
thats god

SniperWish
SniperWish

No, faith is believing in something despite a lack of explanation. Faith is not believing in something because of a lack of explanation.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Let me do a scientific experiment. If Putin exists and he has nuclear weapons, let him stop me from posting.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Yeah, and if God could be explained they wouldn't still be trying to figure it out.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Still posting. Either Putin is fake or he exists and Russia doesn't have nuclear weapons.

*tips fedora*

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

not understanding logic

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

No, he didn't, read "The Antinomy of Pure Reason" in the first Critique

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

But who created the god? If god exists of its own, then there's no reason the universe doesn't exist of its own.

Booteefool
Booteefool

t. special pleading

happy_sad
happy_sad

I wonder how Christians will act if aliens visit the Earth one day and tells us that they have a galactic spanning religion worshipped by gorillions of beings.

Since their argument effectively boils down to "well my religion is the most popular one so it has to be true".

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

God=a
a=1
therefore, 1 or more god exists
corollary
a:(>=)1
Thefore, there is a God.

askme
askme

Christianity is true because Christ rose from the dead. If the aliens deny that, they are wrong.

likme
likme

You're really just showing your ignorance here, my man. The Thomists will eat you alive if you toss them softballs like that IRL.

Methshot
Methshot

you = a
a = moron
therefore, you are a moron

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

5'0''

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

But Bible says ignorance is bliss.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Christianity is true because Christ rose from the dead.
So did dozens of other people according to the bible without getting into accounts from other sources about people rising from the dead,.

Why would that make Christianity true?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

This is essentially using the concept of unity to prove God exists. This is what a Neo-Pythagorean would do, and is justifiable, I just think you could have done it a lot better.

TechHater
TechHater

Then you are clearly in a blissful state of atheism. You're not going to get anywhere unless you specifically attack the main argument of Aquinas, which honestly amounts to nothing more than "muh causa sui." But if you ask a Thomist a question like "who created God?" you're just going to get haughty and contrived responses about potency and formal reality that will probably make you feel quite small

Methnerd
Methnerd

That was him, thank you friendarinos :^)

TreeEater
TreeEater

Kant relied on transcendental idealism to block the argument employing the principle of sufficient reason. If transcendental idealism is false, then his argument against the argument from contingency is ineffective.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Your continued, unfettered existence. Only an extremely merciful God can allow this to be true.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Sad strawman.

Emberburn
Emberburn

In what way is it false, if at all?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

One reason to think that it is false is because Kant cannot assign any clear function to the noumenal world, since it is outside the bounds of possible knowledge, and so from an explanatory standpoint is logically irrelevant. In this sense, Kant's transcendental idealism collapses into a more ordinary idealism, in which the principle of sufficient reason has universal applicability, and the argument from contingency goes through.

StonedTime
StonedTime

What we've always done. Spread the good news. Evangelise.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Show the proof then

eGremlin
eGremlin

Kant cannot assign any clear function to the noumenal world, since it is outside the bounds of possible knowledge, and so from an explanatory standpoint is logically irrelevant

That the "Ideals of Pure Reason" can be shown as regulative rather than constitutive concepts of metaphysics is one such function. But what do you mean by a "clear function"?

FastChef
FastChef

To take Descartes' formulation of the ontological argument:

1. To say that something, y, is contained in the concept or nature or essence of something, x, is the same as saying y is true of x.
2. Possible existence is contained in the concept of that which is limited or conditioned being, and necessary existence is contained in the concept of that which is unlimited or unconditioned being [which is called, or we name God].
3. Therefore, it is true that God necessarily exists.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

I mean, a definite explanatory function.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Well, in addition to what I cited, noumena are shown to "exist" as known unknowns in his argument against dogmatic idealism.

Also, noumena aren't outside the bounds of knowledge completely, otherwise they couldn't be known unknowns. They are the very bounds of knowledge. This seems like quite a "definite" explanatory function to me.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

In what sense are they shown to exist? They cannot be inferred from any aspect of possible experience, nor deduced from the categories, since all of that is confined to the phenomenal world or its production. Why shouldn't I, like Berkeley, simply write off these baseless and pointless abstractions as nonsense, or, like Hume, simply admit that I do not know what produces my experiences? What were Kant's grounds for assuming that they exist?

girlDog
girlDog

If it is granted that all experience conforms to the a priori laws of space and time, it follows that all experience is phenomena, which is appearance. For there to be an appearance, there must be something which appears.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

prove that god doesn't exist

w8t4u
w8t4u

existence is

massdebater
massdebater

/Atheism

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

The appearance appears; or, in idealist terms, a mind has an idea, or an idea is in a mind. This does not presuppose that there is a mind-independent object of which the appearance is an appearance of. That is an unwarranted assumption, and since the principle of sufficient reason and the principles of causation do not apply to anything other than phenomena, there is no reason to apply them, reaching outside of experience, to things in themselves. If one is willing to go that far, then the argument from contingency seems to hold.

Techpill
Techpill

Not really unwarranted, because if you only concede a mind, then you concede that there is an internal determination of the internal sense, i.e. time. If you concede time, you must also concede space, because a consciousness can only determine itself in time when it relates to something permanent (relatively or absolutely) without itself.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Prove you exist. Or anything else for that matter.

Emberburn
Emberburn

I can't even prove you exist

RavySnake
RavySnake

Kant argues that what allows us to determine ourselves in time are spatial appearances (material objects)--that is, the appearances of outer sense. Yet, these appearance in the outer sense do not presuppose, or in any way require, mind-independent things in themselves. Things in themselves are certainly not material, since we can affirm of material substance that it is extended, but we cannot affirm anything of things in themselves. However, Kant's material objects still have no existence without a mind in whose outer sense they exist as mere appearances.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Sorry, I take that back that was a retarded thing to say, sorry OP.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

is omnipotent omnipressent omniscient omni omni

indescribable and really mysterious what is even the point of talking about him if he cannot be categorized or described in anyway whatsoever

Illusionz
Illusionz

god is us, or in us, whatever, u still having your time postin on 4chinz, board for frustrated animu lovers, and every-wing political supporters, so...

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Since their argument effectively boils down to "well my religion is the most popular one so it has to be true".
Please don't do that again. You know what I'm talking about

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

retarded
You fucking wish, faggot

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Which god?

JunkTop
JunkTop

You wont find logic any more formal than that
pfft, watch this

Let G be the proposition that God exists.
G

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

CHALLENGE UNTOUCHED!
ATHEISM BTFO!

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

You can't, and that's why they call believing in God faith because it puts evidence and reason below prayer and scripture/beliefs.

cum2soon
cum2soon

No.

w8t4u
w8t4u

tippity top kek
tip

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

christfags struggling to prove that a single christian god exists, when there are also thousands of other gods left to disprove
Kek

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