were the residents of prussian gdansk/konigsberg/etc. germans or poles? did prussians consider themselves separate from both? my understanding is that these cities were completely german, but those germans have now almost 100% left the cities for america or western germany—is this the case? were these cities always german before their recent expulsion/exodus?
Were the residents of prussian gdansk/konigsberg/etc. germans or poles...
Oliver Carter
Benjamin Lee
Stop making these threads you Poleshit.
Michael Garcia
not related to the other threads and not polish. i happen to be german, but am more interested in the cultural milieu kant, etc. grew up in
Kayden Gray
>I Happen to be German
>Uses Polish names for cities can't even spell Königsberg properly also uses Polish maps
Yeah sure "German". I know you're Polish and made this thread just to summon Poleshits to spams their wiki articles and maps. It's getting tiresome already, fuck off.
Isaac Gonzalez
Autism at its peak.
Jaxson Gray
listen faggot. i was born in south america and dont live in germany. i dont know anything about it, that's why im asking. get ahold of yourself—that's just the names and maps on wikipedia
Nathan Clark
So go open a wiki article and read on demographics you cretin. No one is going to spoon feed you.
Blake Wilson
>were the residents of prussian gdansk/konigsberg/etc. germans or poles?
>my understanding is that these cities were completely german
The demographics of East Prussia changed so much over the centuries that you can't make sweeping generalisations like this, especially when you're dealing with such a complex mix of Germanic, Baltic and Slavic peoples. But the general trend was gradual Germanisation over time, especially in the cities. For example by the early 20th Century 95% of Danzig was German. Another example is Allenstein which was 89% German in 1910 while the surrounding area was only 40% German.
>those germans have now almost 100% left the cities for america or western germany—is this the case?
Not really for America, but yes they're gone.
Isaac Reed
do you know any good texts about the region—have you read 'iron kingdom'?
Owen Wood
Haven't read it, sorry.
Lincoln Martin
almost everyone identified themselves as prussian
anecdote: there was one noble who considered himself to be prussian, hated germans and the only language he knew was polish
Benjamin Ortiz
What the fuck
Did you get bumraped by Poles or something
Michael Collins
>were these cities always german before their recent expulsion/exodus?
Benjamin Watson
Go back to /pol/, we are in Veeky Forums, poletards...
Isaiah Sullivan
Answer: no.
en.wikipedia.org
#Massacre_records
#Destruction_of_the_town
Levi Gonzalez
Nolan Lopez
>were the residents of prussian gdansk/konigsberg/etc. germans or poles?
In the 17th century in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Królewiec aka Konigsberg was 35-40% Polish.
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
Connor Brown
>did prussians consider themselves separate from both?
It's complicated, more Protestant (German) vs Catholic (Polish).
Josiah Thompson
Poland creating Prussia in 1525 as its Polish vassal was a mistake.
>The Prussian Homage (by Jan Matejko, 1882, National Museum, Kraków): Albert receives eastern Prussia as a fief from King Sigismund I of Poland in 1525.
Asher Moore
>en.wikipedia.org
So it had been German for over 600 years by the twentieth century?
Caleb Mitchell
It was founded and inhabited by Poles. Owned by Poland for 670+ years. That's longer than any unified German state existed ever.
Ryder Long
>continues to make threads about german superiority
John Hughes
yeah, but who were the people living there
Tyler Flores
And most of modern Poland was inhabited by germanics for hundreds of years before they showed up. Whats your point?
Carson Myers
And before that it was inhabited by Trziniec ancestors of Balts and Slavs, what's your point?
Germanics in Poland had nothing to do with modern Germans, just so you know.
Brayden Scott
There is a theory that after Teutonic knights fucked Danzig up, people who lived there moved upriver and settled in Thorn. If that would be the case, then the original burghers of Danzig were of Westfalian origin, mostly the areas around Soest and Dortmund.