Ciggys

I run 5k a day and lift 4 days a week. When i drink (maybe once a month) ill smoke half a pack over a night. First few times running again suck but after, that it's like i never smoked anything. Do a lot of cycling and hiking as well. It's like fast food but worse? Just don't make a habit of it. Preferably not at all, but if you're going to do it, do it sparingly.

both have been solved and only occured with a certain kind of juice

Some people's bodies can handle it, some can't. If you feel like puking while you're drinking or shortly after it's almost certainly your stomach; if it's later it could be a couple of things. Regardless, don't drink (much) if it fucks you up.

don't even vape or smoke but when you "research" do you just go until something aligns with the views you already held?

It's very unhealthy for you.

After a while it will start to impact your physical performance.

Can be very expensive depending on where you live.

If you're hot it looks cool.

Stress reliever

Do what you want, ideally you would smoke occasionally (partying, reading, after dinner), but these things are addictive so be careful.

ITT numales
youtube.com/watch?v=qYf1AgZAXuI

>having the willpower and constitution to defeat the most addictive substance in all of existence is in some way, shape, or form beta.

nice cope.

>occasional

Scientists at MEDspiration conducted a cigarette experiment, pumping the smoke from 20 cigarettes into a pair of healthy lungs. This is what you'll get yourself into.

have some fucking self respect

arnie is a lad youtube.com/watch?v=j8Em5kbmRXg

Smoke cigars instead as it's just tobacco unlike smokes which contain alot of filler. I have 1, sometimes 2 cigars a month, I'm pretty fit and noticed zero difference, but then you don't inhale cigar smoke. The taste is actually nice and gives me a little buzz. Everything in moderation, smoking is fine provided it's not a regular thing.

I vape during the week and smoke when drinking. Honestly if you can stop smoking stop now, wish i never started. Smoking is bad for you i feel the shortness of breath and everything when i have that first cig, but cant seem to get over that urge. Non smokers dont realise its like watching porn and having a massive hardon then trying to not fap every hour every day

Smoking is bad for you. Theres really no way around that. Exactly how bad? Depends on how often you are doing it and how many you smoke.

Also I understand everyone on Veeky Forums has the self control of a statue but just be careful you dont start liking them too much, its a real slippery slope my man.

So cigarettes are made with shredded homogenized tobacco leaf, aka HTL. They shred up low quality tobacco, stalks and woody bits and all, then they soak that in a nasty chemical bath that extracts the nicotine and bleaches it. Then they turn the resulting pulp into paper, soak that with concentrated nicotine to amp up the nicotine hit, shred that, and roll it into cigarettes.

Quality pipe tobacco and cigars, OTOH, are basically good tobacco leaf that has been prepared using largely natural processes. It tastes miles better than cigarettes, and the nicotine delivery is less intense since you absorb the nicotine from non-nicboosted smoke through the mucus membranes in your mouth instead of through the lungs. It's a gentler ride, less prone to causing addiction. If pipes and cigars are nice Scotch, cigarettes are drinking Sterno.

The cancer risk profile is different too. If you smoke one or two cigars or bowls a week your risk drops into the statistical noise.

>The cancer risk profile is different too. If you smoke one or two cigars or bowls a week your risk drops into the statistical noise.

proof?

I'd trust high quality natural leaf far more than whatever crap goes into vape goop.

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Note that it doesn't say that pipes and cigars are much safer than cigarettes, but when you limit your consumption (which is easier given that they're less addictive) the actual risk of popping off because of it is very low.

>vaping

lmao i hope this was jest

>How bad are they for you on occasion?
Smoking is never good for you user. Don't give in to the Jew sticks.

I remember taking part in tradition native ceremonies when I was younger and traditional tobacco (high quality small batch organic grown stuff) was often used for "healing and cleansing". It wasn't always smoked, it was often burned in a bowl along with sweet grass and it would create a good sense of calm and would actually seemed to help one time when I have a lung infection. Considering the majority of the carcinogens in cigarettes seem to be from the processing and additives it would kind of make sense that the problems aren't inherently with tobacco.

what the fuck kind of link is that LOL. longest shit i've ever seen

one is combustion, one is convection / conduction

get with the times, grampa

Linklet.

Tobaccos good, but the additives in cigarettes are fucking awful. If you want tobacco either smoke a pipe or roll your own cigs.

I used to smoke when I drank but stopped because I swear they made the hangover much worse. Now when I drink I vape the ecigs that look like an actual cigarette. Looks much less autistic than those big box things with the stupidly big vapor clouds..

here and there will possibly lead to pack a day + down the road. I smoked the odd cig in college and never picked up the habit but it was a pretty rare thing and I didn't enjoy them much.

>Stress reliever
Nope. It actually raises your heart rate and increase blood pressure.
I feel for that meme

apparently that can give you something called "popcorn lung"

you're a fucking pussy.

i forsee you crashing hard.
moderation > abstinence

It can do the opposite depending on the amount used. Look up the nicotinic effect.

smoking is for poor people and hipsters. also, most smokers die from heart disease caused by smoking and not lung cancer

>Just drove into the poor area of my town to pick up a table.
>Beggar looking people smoking everywhere.
>Pack of cigarettes is $22 in my country because of tax.

Why the fuck would anyone smoke? It isn't cool and looks desperate.

>43050646
Smoke some homegrown tobacco and then tell me the stuff you buy is natural.

$22 ??? Where the fuck do you live ?
If you're beggars can afford such vice, maybe they aint beggars. Or beggar-looking

one cigarette contains 278 times the amount of diacetyl that one BOTTLE of tainted CHINESE ejuice has. ALso Diacetyl link with popcorn lung has never been confirmed.

eww.

i would never date a guy that smoked, even occasionally. enjoy only getting trashy women OP :(

Not him but Australia it's that much for a 20 pack of shitty ones

>in the rare occasion I get drunk I like to smoke the jew sticks
you get an oral fixation when you drink? is this why you rarely drink? did you embarrass yourself user?

Only a matter of time before some edge lord brings up race

Even if he got you he'd still be only getting trash and not even a woman, so yeah... your statement is pretty irrelevant

Middle east it's 4$/20 pack.
Winston/Marlboro/LM etc

Small amounts are disproportionately dangerous, that is, smoking only a couple a day doesn't minimize the risk as much as you would think. Of course smoking only a little hinders your performance on a short period (less than a few years) a lot less, so you *could* smoke and be Veeky Forums.

Guess it's up to how lucky you feel.

telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7360761/100-year-old-woman-says-drink-and-cigarettes-keep-her-young.html

Genetics are bad for you. You can never smoke a cig in your life and die from lung cancer. Meanwhile old bats like her are smoking more then a pack a day and drinking into their 100's.

>dat severe projection...

wow this anecdotal evidence disproves decades of research

Just snus instead for a while to kick the smoking habit but don't make a habit out of using snus, also don't do it in public if you're not from a Scandinavian country.

research says its bad.
its bad for everyone, but some get away with smoking for decades while others smoke two years and die.
Genetics determine how people respond to it.

that's a jew meme, there's no documented cases of vaping causing popcorn lung, or even smoking, which has a lot more diacetyl and a lot bigger sample size to test from
on the other hand, when someone dies from smoking related complications, we usually don't check for popcorn lung so it's possible that it's happened and hasn't been recorded. still no negative side effects from vaping tho

Animal products is bad for you. There's no safe amount of eating animal products. Yet you still do it...

snus is literally the safest form of tobacco out there and the only things you have to worry about from it is gum loss..

If your still smoking over snus you're a retarded fagget and need to switch

swedishmatch.com/Snus-and-health/Research-on-snus/Cancer/

The gum loss is why I don't want to keep using snus, but it definitely helps to stop me smoking when I crave a cig and pop a snus in my lip

I went from 212 smoking prolly half a pack a day to 185.

Then I quit smoking. Having quit the tobacco Jew for over 4 months

I'm stronger now but I weigh 207.
>Gained fucking 25 pounds
>Food tastes so gd better
>Im weak. I'm a failure

don't fucking smoke

vaping had a noticeable effect on my endurance

that's def possible, all i'm saying is there hasn't been any hard scientific evidence so far

No, it can rarely contain chemicals that cause it... Just as cigarettes. But significantly less amounts than cigarettes. Which they themselves do not contain high enough concentrations to have ever given a case of popcorn lung in the millions who have smoked lifelong.

Great point lulz

somebody estimate the size of these arms if you think your man enough

>gets near puking territory
>thinks he's not drinking too much

Listen to me very carefully. You drink until you are slightly buzzed, when you can feel it just A LITTLE and you have a slight boost in mood. Then that's it. Anything beyond that is alcoholic status. I don't give a fuck what your scumbag pathetic friends say. They are fucking alcoholics.

Smoking cigs is fucking manlet braindead retard habit. It dehydrates you. It lowers your testosterone. There's tons of shit in there just to keep you addicted.

You have a lot to learn. Your friends are fucking idiots.

>moderation > abstinence
okay

so you just lift weight a little bit

MODERATION amirite

This is bullshit.

Responding to criticism by trying to find the criticizers secret hypocrisy is the most beta thing you can do.

>if you're so great, why are you here having to tell me why I'm not so good? Doesn't that put you at my level?
>oh you're trying to tell me that something is bad for me? Well I found out that YOU do something that is bad for YOU

These exist to defend you from looking at yourself objectively, it keeps you in a position of power (only to your own perception though) over the situation.

You're tricking yourself to preserve your narcissistic self image you soft little beta.

>Responding to criticism by trying to find the criticizers secret hypocrisy is the most beta thing you can do.

this is one of the most common anti-vegan arguments though

I'll link the posts making that argument in the current vegan general
And that's with only 33 replies. Haha. Look at those "soft little betas."

>jew sticks
Jews are behind the anti-smoking campaign. Just fyi.

James Bond smoked 60 a day, btw. Different times.

>the most addictive substance in all of existence
Numale detected.

Antisemitism has become nonsensical as hell. You guys aren't even educated on this, you literally think Jews are against everything you like.

Yeah and those people you linked are weak minded bitches. I'm not defending my meat eating habits. I haven't done research for myself as to whether or not it's good for me and take most Veeky Forums wisdom with a grain of salt but I would never respond to someone telling me it's unhealthy by saying "hurrr you're so against killing but you probably wear sweatshop clothing and kill thousands of microbes every time you use hand sanitizer"

Because I'm not a pussy.

Basically responding to criticism with the fantasy of discovering the injurers secret hypocrisy is a beta male power fantasy. They're desperately scrabbling to put themselves back on top rather than taking the argument or situation on face to face or rejecting it outright which would require humility and self esteem.

Go watch the Alec Baldwin scene from glengarry-glen Ross to see more of what I mean. The men he's spurring on are the people who need a fire under their ass, and their responses show exactly why they need that motivation. They're beta cucks. They respond to personal shortcomings in the workplace by being like "oh well I'm such a good father it doesn't matter that I suck at the career I've chosen."

You're a god dad? Fuck you go play with your kids. It's outside the scope of the situation at hand. Improve or choose to reject but don't try to pussy out of the confrontation.

Since when was someone arguing for the protection of microbes?

There's nothing "pussy" about having compassion for animals user. I think pretending you don't have emotions is what's cowardly, but that's just my opinion.

Ghandi wasn't a pussy. He had more balls than anyone.

Dude read what I wrote.
Youre really misinterpreting what I'm saying

nah

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