Raising a healthy son

that's not enough, you also have to engage yourself in your child's life otherwise they'll end my like me

Im not a dad, but I am an uncle to kids with horrible parents. my advice would be to find a balance

you have to treat them like adults when it comes to information. theyre not retarded and they need you to be open/honest with shit. no "youre not old enough to know" shit. and respect them as people. you have to be disciplined with them, but it cant come from anger when you do, it has to be logical and explained to them so they understand. generally physical punishments are bad. limiting their freedoms or making them do extra work is generally more beneficial

dont force your beliefs on them. dont give them black/white information. give them the tools and opportunities to figure life out for themselves

try and be a role model. be hard working, respectful of others/yourself/them, have a healthy diet. encourage them with new hobbies, but dont force shit on them. with lifting for example, theyve seen me lift at my garage gym. they like to play and shit with me, so they like lifting as an extension of that, I didnt have to force them

also, all of this applies to daughters too. dont be a little shit who doesnt respect theyre daughter and teaches their sons to disrespect women. theyre the same and you should give both the same and expect the same standards for both in return

Fuck that.
I'm telling them how it is when it comes to the most important stuff.
Giving them tools and freedom is litterally leaving them to be brainwashed by assholes and enough rope to hang themselves with.

What do you mean when you say "how it is when it comes to the most important stuff"

?

and "telling them how it is" is just brainwashing them yourself. the fact you feel so strongly about it suggest you probably have ideas that are far off the deep end

he means hes gonna warn his kids about the niggers, fags and ebil sjws.

>23
>turkey
>mechanical engineer currently on my way to get my masters degree
>7 drink alot on weekends thinking i have no future.
>7.5-8 long time loyal friends
>with parents
>im pretty good looking but very asocial so score when i actually want to fuck
>0 debt and take close to nothing from parents
>about 6 years
>long walks and biking
>kemalist
>future has close to nothing for me since economy is on a sharp downfall even though our wannabe dictator tries so hard to hide it.

i love life but most people here seem so fucking retarded to me because of their views about blatant shit and their decisions. i hope to wife a hottie from norway. ill be a citizen while i fuck her brains out every single day.

My dad would reward behavior that was submissive and obedient to him and would punish any kind of rebellious behavior. I realized the other day that it turned me into a bitch. Currently trying to unlearn bitch lessons. Don't do that to your kid, a man requires a certain level of insolence in order to succeed as a man. Subtly reward some controlled rebellious attitudes from your son. Subtly punish submissive bitch behavior.

>34
>UK
>Engineer
>5, never attempted suicide but not really happy
>2, have very few friends, struggle to talk to people I know, can't talk to strangers
>Homeowner
>Married with kids, prior to that I had a few gfs and a few one nighters. Without the Internet I'd have had none of that.
>10/10
>3 years
>Played soccer at a decent level in the military for ten years
>hate politics and politicians
>5

>be me
>be 13
>be playing out
>kid 2 years younger spits on me
>chase him with a cricket bat
>swipe his legs with it as he runs away
>no serious injury
>his parents tell my parents only his side of the story
>parents ground me for an entire school year.

I believe this had a major negative effect on my social skills. Being grounded at such an important time in my growth for such a long period had to have had consequences and is more than likely the reason I'm socially retarded.

While most kids that she start hanging around and experimenting with the opposite sex I was unable to leave the house outside of school hours. An entire fucking school year of being unable to socialise with any humans other than my family outside of school hours.

This happened in the September so it was virtually a full school year.

I've never told my parents this is how I feel. I'm not that close to them really.

Talk to them about the importance of not education, but learning.
How to value themselves their family friends and what respect is.
Self sufficiency.
How not to 100% trust the word of people who say they're doing it for your own good.
Teach them about sex, the role of violence in life, and how to deal with people.
Won't let him end up like me and learning what that means from the media and random assholes online.

Last thing I want is a self hating son with bodydysmorphia or a daughter who's a dumb liberated whore

Yes, I should totally sit them in front of the television and let them be slowly programmed into what others want

In my mother's case, being a mentally ill abusive nutcase. In my dad's being a spineless beta with terrible taste in women.

Christ what an overreaction. Sorry that happened to you user.

Proportionality, I'm sure you didn't act like a psycho when the kid got hurt right? Usually when one little kid hurts another kid they laugh if it's not a big deal but feel super shitty if it seems serious.

Only reason I'd react strongly is if I thought my kid was being a bully or turning into a sociopath. Apology? Definitely. But grounding for a full year is insane.

No self respecting Nord goddess would marry a dirty Turk

>left libertarian
you parents should be ashamed

>Doesn't believe in competition

You wanna know how I know you don't lift?

Not him, but leftism is inherently anti-competition.

>>age
26
>>General location
Florida
>>career or NEETdom
Couple of years into my career
>>Graded emotional wellness (scale of 1-10 1 being several attempted suicides, 10 being godlike happiness)
Solid 9
>>Graded social wellness (still scale of 1-10)
Like a 4, I've recently moved to a new city, and making friends as an adult is tougher than you'd think
>>Living situation
Renting an apartment with my wife (saving for a down payment)
>>relationship status or sexual successes (How are you with romance and sex?)
Well, I'm married, and blow my load into the broad a few times a week
>>degree of self-sufficiency, economically speaking
Self-sufficient, saving for retirement, a home, and have money to spare for vacations and fun
>>Years lifting, important benchmarks you've recently hit
Lifting on and off since middle school. I've recently stopped drinking because I want to hit dat dere 10%
>>Any other athletic involvement
Not anymore, although I used to play football
>>Politics
NatSoc
>>overall satisfaction all of the above, what does the future hold for you?
All good things. I've got a decent career, attractive wife, and we're planning on lots of kiddos

Anyway, I grew up with a single mom and saw my dad every other weekend. That was fucking shit for 10 years, and I don't want my kids to go through it. Everything I'm planning and saving for is to keep the kids raised in a healthy environment.

Read a textbook before you come at me with your shitty meme ideology you fucking teen.

>24
>upstate ny
>graduated from top 20 university, in army as infantry officer. successful thus far and being considered for elite positions
>7
>7
>renting my own apt
>not successful with relationships, mostly due to a focus on work. I have sex with fairly attractive (7+/10) women almost every weekend.
>completely self-sufficient
>2.5 years lifting, with significant breaks here or there to focus on army training. 145/215/280/385
>nope
>moderate republican.
>probably will get out of the army and go to business school.

my dad wasnt particularly emotionally involved but set a strong example of work ethic and morals.
mom constantly pushed me to reach my potential (would scold me for anything less than an A- in school) but made it clear that i was loved.

both generally let me free to make my own decisions and my own mistakes. pretty far from helicopter parents. both encouraged me to solve my own problems (usually with their guidance of course) rather than having them solve it for me. showed me the value of persistence and hard work. at the end of the day, work ethic is by far the most important determining factor of how successful someone is relative to their talent and potential. a stupid guy that works hard can still do pretty damn well for himself.

>this triggered

Don't think about it too hard OP, there are plenty of factors that decide how your child comes out that are out of your control.

>25
> NC
> USMC
>8
>7
I own a 3 bedroom house in a small town on the water, it's enough for me.
> Married, did fine before hand.
>I take care of myself
> Over 12, just hit 425lbs for 12 on squat.
> I've done a few shows and coach wrestling
> I don't get too involved in all that.
> Good, currently working on my bachelors in Sports Science

My father was physically and emotionally abusive, my mother was weak and always let him. I worked hard to be able to get far away from them and hopefully one day stand up to him. When I was 16 I finally did I fought my father, lost and was kicked out.
Looking back makes me sad, but I learned to rely on myself as far back as I can remember and I've had a purpose for everything I've done. In a weird way I also learned empathy and hopefully one day how to be a better father for it.
I know plenty of great parents who have awful kids as well as great.
Just do your best, encourage them to pursue their interests even if they aren't yours, hold them accountable but let them know you'll always have their back. And maybe most important, make sure they know being an athlete, genius or musical savant come second in importance to being a good person.
The fact you care enough to ask makes me think you'll do fine.

It's not an ideology, I'm literally just stating a fact that leftism values equality and is against the social hierarchy.

>age
25

>General location
NYC, bronx

>career or NEETdom
lab tech at CUNY, had some neetdom after a layoff after working for a year.

>Graded emotional wellness (scale of 1-10 1 being several attempted suicides, 10 being godlike happiness)
3

>Graded social wellness (still scale of 1-10)
5, severely limited by not being down with scheduled substances, and not being a chad

>Living situation
Parents

>relationship status or sexual successes (How are you with romance and sex?)
4 partners all ONS. single, it's bad... lifting hasn't helped from what I can tell.

>degree of self-sufficiency, economically speaking
could move out if I wanted to. not normal in hispanic culture unless you have a falling out with your parents or start a family.

>Years lifting, important benchmarks you've recently hit
5? lost interest a year back and just did routine stuff getting more into it again.
1/2/3/4 by year 3,

>Any other athletic involvement
Track in highschool, casually obsessed with online ranks in erging but stopped after freshman year college.

>Politics
largely indifferent. I think regulatory agencies should be given enough authority to do their jobs. I think the financial system is still fragmented, and the EPA isn't doing enough. the SEC should have more financial analysts or at least work with the Fed and the treasury more. the FBI is a joke, the CIA has too much backing and incompetent leadership.

>overall satisfaction all of the above, what does the future hold for you?
not satisfied. getting my shitty CFA(Passed L1, L2 in 2018), and masters in math. gonna apply to do a PhD either at Columbia, Kyoto U, ETH, or Frankfurt. If I fail there, I'll try to get a financial job and try again in a couple years.

>highlight etc.

parents had me in private school and financed part of my uni. They constantly use it as a stake to control me and extort me financially. Don't use money and costs of raising a child as leverage because it may lead to trust issues. I don't trust my parents with money, and had to learn fiscal responsibility from reddit and books.

monitor your child's social progress, and research what is going on if they fail to meet social milestones (not ever bringing a girl home and playing yugioh midway into highschool should have been a redflag). look for root causes when encountering behavioral issues.
"that's their personality" or "he's just unique" are terrible cop outs that can lead to trouble down the road. read up on developmental psychology to try to contextualize your child's reasoning and emotional conflicts.

Doesn't mean it's anti-competition

>20
>USA
>AT&T Sales Rep
>6-7 depends on day
>Gf lives with me
>gf and I are pretty comfy
>fully supported myself for over 2 years now and have fully supported my gf and our daughter for almost a year now. And have a small savings/safety net
>recently realized I am grotesquely out of shape, soooo work in progress...7 neutral grip pullups with slow decisive movement and full extension
>Less big government, more personal responsibility. Maybe Libertarian
>I know I have a lot of improvements to make but I am feeling hopeful. My little girls b-day is in about 3 weeks.

My parents always tried to teach us to think and take responsibility for our actions. I was probably not disciplined enough as a young boy but all and all I am lucky to have had the parents I have.

Damn you've got a kid and are supporting a family on sales? Good work user.

That type of work can be shakey though so make sure you invest in yourself in some way- education or property.

Do you guys think that if your parents are social retards then you are more likely to be a social retard?

How about if you're an only child?

>Social retard parents
More likely, but not guaranteed.

>Only child
Higher chance than usual but still not guaranteed.

so what if i am both?

Should I fill this out if I'm a complete loser in my mid 20s? Or would that just throw off the results and I'm just a worthless outlier

>Combo burrito
Higher chance than normal person but not guaranteed.
All information is good information user. Where'd your rents fuck up?

>22
>northeast
>uni
>9
>3
>definitely have shelter
>none
>3, but never keep at it because of grades
>swimming
>liberal to keep myself from shitting on everyone worse off than me (I went to a shitty school for undergrad, really wanted to mock the conservatives for their crap grades and working-class background but of course that's mean)
>9, dunno
sexual abuse really fucks you up, a great dad really helps, I did a lot of swimming and basketball and drank lots of whole milk as a kid and now I'm a head taller than everyone in my family (at 5'9"), read a lot when I was a kid but it was more like skimming but still tested well above my grade level

My parents couldn't afford to have one child so what do they do? They go and have two more and we lived in miserable poverty until I left home at 17. Every time I told my dad I was hungry he would shame for it and that carried on into my adulthood and I only ate to sustain life not because I enjoyed it or I wanted to change how I looked. I was 6' 120lbs until I was 23 and started working out and eating enough to make gains.

>28
>large military base
>military officer
>8 (v happy but tfw no gf)
>7 (aspie enough to poast on Veeky Forums but functional)
>paying off mortgage on nice condo
>pay for sex because less trouble, can't find any girls worth wifeing
>no wife + military officer pay + bennies = $$$
>2 years lifting on/off, ATG 2pl8 squat for reps 2 months ago
>Martial arts
>Rightwing views but not politically active
>v. satisfied w. life and potential futures

recommendations
church is a must, even if you are atheist. I'm not religious but the community, structure and beauty hugely impacted my upbringing. Catholicfag but even the most pozzed episcopalcuck church is better than nothing.

strong marriage also a must, do not divorce over anything but abuse of the children or other things on that level. this is more than personal experience, it is shown in study after study that two parent marriage has biggest impact on child. this is why most niggers are so fucked up - no dad.

speaking of, third must is to ensure children's schooling environment limits their exposure to vibrant diversity as much as possible. My parents sacrificed to get me into the best high school in the area - the only blacks there were one rich black jew and the janitors. Easily the best single decision they made for me.

boy scouts was good for me (dad was troop leader) but not a must, and I hear it's changed. if you can find a good troop could be a big positive, but not vital

my childhood was basically a norman rockwell painting, know not replicable by everyone but that's how I will raise my children when/if i have them. only negative thing is that physical health was emphasized less than academic achievement, I came to it late anyway but I wish I had started earlier

Yeah but now you fuck prostitutes and can't find a wife.

You think it's going to go OK at 28 finding a woman who's not a complete vapid gold digger? Or somebody else's ex wife/ babymama?

>Talk to them about the importance of not education, but learning.
>Teach them about sex, the role of violence in life, and how to deal with people.
Oh makes sense now, so you're an imbecile that decides that violence is necessary due to not being able to handle things socially?
Nice reading comprehension about throwing in the television thing, that is definitely what they were talking about.

>fedora-tipper is a leftist
You're a walking stereotype, faggot.

You're fucking retarded and completely ignored the entire conversation simply to pick out things that upset you so you could bitch at nothing like a stupid fuck.

You wasted everyone's time with your stupid bullshit.

Not him but you have no concept of libertarianism. Christ.

My post was in response to your post, which was replying mainly to the quote
"dont force your beliefs on them. dont give them black/white information. give them the tools and opportunities to figure life out for themselves", a statement you disagree with and I agree on.
I was shitposting, saying that the reason you disagree with this statement was due to lack of intelligence and empathy, wanting to brainwash your kids with the same ideology that ostracizes you from your peers.

Having to split the body dis-morphia and "dumb liberated whore" parts into both genders shows how biased you are, self-confidence should be taught to both women and daughters and man-slut problems develop into many of the same issues as girl-slut problems.

Cute that you think wasting someone's time isn't the point of Veeky Forums.

hey man, no argument here. you're right. but in the military, i've seen too many people on their second or third marriages, raising someone else's children or being denied access to theirs to risk such a thing for myself. i'd like to be married but won't jump into it lightly, and if it never happens, it never happens.

as for the prostitute thing, it's out of choice, not necessity. i probably spend less for sex then most people, I don't have to buy booze or spend nights out cruising, or deal with all the rest of women's shit. maybe it's not healthy, but we don't live in a healthy society.

You're a fucking idiot.

A son being a manwhore has far less social and health implications then a girl being a whore.
You're a fucking idiot if you don't agree.

And a man who is confident in himself and loves himself will not fuck every woman who stands still in front of him.
Nor will a woman who knows her worth be willing to fuck anything that shows her the slightest bit of attention.

Sounds like you've got a solid attitude about it.

I'd date younger if I were you. Find one of those angsty undergrad girls who thinks she's more mature than anyone around her, snap her up. By the time it wears off she'll already be in love with you.

will probably do this when I go back to school for masters. hope all the shit i hear about ~30 yr old men being prime SMV material is true

going back to the point of the thread, might be too obvious to bother posting, but don't raise your son to pedestal women. not saying try to make him into uberchad, but too little respect for women is far better than too much.

I'm writing this as a 25 year old completely worthless loser, so I'm an outlier here but if you're interested in the thoughts of a pathetic loser you can read

>25
>California
>work a shit-tier entry level job because i can't get into grad school and all my experience is with going to said grad school
>Graded emotional wellness: Probably a 1, never attempted suicide but I'm always angry and don't care about anything including how awful my life is or about changing it
>Graded social wellness: Negative 15. I haven't had real friends since elementary school
>Living situation
Live with parents, hate it, but live in one of the most expensive areas of the USA/world
>relationship status or sexual successes;Kissless permavirgin, never even asked a girl out
>degree of self-sufficiency, economically speaking:
Doing okay economically, have 70k in the bank but a normal person would have much more than me
>Years lifting, important benchmarks you've recently hit: N/A
>Any other athletic involvement:
I referee soccer and commute to work via my bicycle (about 10 miles each way)
>Politics:
Basically libertarian
>overall satisfaction all of the above, what does the future hold for you?
Zero

I'm sure I'll kill myself sometime in the future.

As for my parents involvement in this, besides being very financially supportive and stable (paid for my college education, vacations every year, good housing, etc) they really didn't do much else for me. Never taught me any skills or values in anything in life. I attribute most of it to my father, who is a very angry, selfish, narcissistic, hypocritical asshole who basically hates people and transferred these properties down to me. never seen him have a friend my entire life, spent most my childhood threatening us with divorce.

But I don't really blame my parents for me turning out like this, the autism is all my fault.

>And a man who is confident in himself and loves himself will not fuck every woman who stands still in front of him.
>Nor will a woman who knows her worth be willing to fuck anything that shows her the slightest bit of attention.

Yeah, and we agree that not being a falling into hedonism and respecting oneself and their body should be taught to both your son and daughter.
You could have thought that when typing but far too many people believe that being a manwhore has no negative consequences while a woman being a whore upsets god.
And of course, a man being a whore has less social and health implications, but it has similar intimacy/emotional tolls (usually).

I still stand by that teaching your kids violent behavior is just going to make them less intelligent, you need to be able to defend yourself (which shouldn't happen if you aren't ghetto tier) and otherwise you should be navigating social problems with wit as it practices them social gains.
I remember fondly a geared out kid coming at a fatty because he was pissed off that he looked at him in highschool.
Fat kid just laughed in his face and told him to fuck off.

>35
>Midwest US
>Auto quality tech. for tier 1
>5 I dont like most things
>same
>Apertment 3 yrs
>Married w/ child
>making due
>Ex military. Just getting back into it after many years.
>No
>Radical alt center
>As long as I keep my lazyness amd degeneracy in check, I should be fine.

Raised by single mother who was constanly hovering and protecting. Couldent get hit im a little league game without getting deagged out and taken to hospital. Emotionally manipulative, crying guilt tripping shit like"you're all I have user" even up until teen. I have a lot of anger still.

We have scientific and centuries worth of anecdotal evidence that says that fucking a lot of dudes...and girls will make a woman less worthwhile as a wife and lover.
There's very little for men.
As a matter of fact men who are whores are called negative things by men more then women but women now lionize the male whore behavior because it means that they have to do very little to attract male attention.

Lastly, I said nothing about making them into gun toting child soliders or whatever image you've built up in your head
I'm talking about teaching them how to recognize and deal with potential and actual violent confrontation both physical and emotional and how to defend themselves and disengage.

Simply pretending it doesn't exist and making them easy victims is the last thing I want. I won't be able to protect them always and I want to know that they can take care of themselves and each other.

Also your anecdote is missing the part where the geared up kid bashes his skull in with a fucking rock.

Go suck the leftists cock some more you fag. There's always one faggot like you rushing to whiteknight for retards on the internet.

All I can say is don't have only one kid. Make sure to have at least two.

>23
>East Coast
>5-6th year Biology and conservation student
>5 I have no hobbies or things that bring me joy day to day, but nothing really bothers me too much
>3 I have some friends from high school, I haven't made any friends during college.
>living with parents
>never had a gf, hooked up a few times with varying girls (5/10-7/10)
>Have savings from my part time jobs throughout school and summers, but rely mainly on parents, 0 debt.
>Around 1 year on and off. 235 1rm bench.
>Jog 2~ times a week
>I don't pay attention to politics
>no expectations for my life. I'm not in a terrible situation (no debt) so I feel like I can trudge through life with whatever job I can find.

My parents were lazy and inconsistent, to the point where they stopped trying completely once I began middle school (ages ~11-14). Their apathy included them no longer taking me to the doctor for checkups. They encouraged me to try new activities when I was young, but when I disliked something they let me quit and eventually let me fuck around at home instead. This eventually lead to my overindulgence in media, computer games, tv, porn, etc. They'd always tell me I was great and smart, etc, even while being completely mediocre at everything. I could continue but you get the picture. For your future children, be present and consistent, don't let your kid whine and walk over you.

>age
23
>General location
Mel, Aus
>career or NEETdom
Uni student, dr in 3 months
>Graded emotional wellness (scale of 1-10 1 being several attempted suicides, 10 being godlike happiness)
3
>Graded social wellness (still scale of 1-10)
>Living situation
3
>relationship status or sexual successes (How are you with romance and sex?)
Meh. Single as of Saturday. Longest I've been without a gf or fwb since I was 17 is 3 months though, and I hooked up with a qt on Sunday. Rarely have much luck with 9+/10s though
>degree of self-sufficiency, economically speaking
I get $41kpa in scholarships. Used get $50-100/h tutoring for medical admissions tests/interviews. Put that on hold to focus on passing medschool/not killing myself.
>Years lifting, important benchmarks you've recently hit
3 years lifting haphazardly. Got to 1/2.5/3.5/4 by 20. Lost it all when the depression really hit. Restarted a fortnight ago. Now weaker than the first day I stepped into a gym. Benching 55kg. Went from 3x7 chins with a 20kg weight chained to my belt to 4x6 chins with 19kg assistance.
>Any other athletic involvement
>Politics
NatSoc.
>overall satisfaction all of the above, what does the future hold for you?
Just fuck my shit up.
Either I find some sort of meaning in life, finally shake this this low-level depression and go on to enjoy life as a surgeon climbing mountains in my spare time. Or I steal the hospital's supply of fentanyl and OD on a cliff overlooking the Pacific.

My parents were both violent heroin-addicted alcoholic junkies. I grew up moving from crack dens to crisis accommodation and back. I used to regularly get left sitting on the school steps until dark because they were passed out in some gutter. My father once ironed my face after I tried to stop him beating my mother. The one time I held a sleepover my friends got to see my sister raped by a drunk in our living room. Genetic history of mental illness going back generations
I imagine there's some connection there.

>OP wants to be a dad
>let's sent him to r9k

As for how I'm gonna raise my kids
>they will do some sort of team/social sport, but they can choose what
>they will do some sort of artistic or musical endeavor, but they can choose what
>they will learn a 2nd language, but they can choose what
Some of my big regrets are that my parents listened to my lazy whining and didn't push me with the above. I think the benefits of those three things are worthwhile for everyone. At the same time I don't want to come across as overly dominating and drive them to hate the sport or the instrument etc, that's I'm preserving some degree of choice about the specifics.

I'd also want them to follow my lead in terms of going camping, practicing mma and staying Veeky Forums because I enjoy those things, it would be cool to share them with my children and I think they're extremely valuable for everyone. But I won't force them into it. Hopefully they'd see me setting the example and that'd be enough to attract them.

>Their apathy included them no longer taking me to the doctor for checkups.

is that a bad thing? im 25 and i havent been to a doctor for a checkup since i was like 8. but i havent had any medical problems except for an ingrown toenail i had to have removed and havent even vomited in almost 15 years

then you're very healthy and very lucky. both children and adults should have frequent checkups

Young people who do and don't go to regular checkups have the same outcomes. In some studies those who go often actually get less than necessary treatment.

Starting around your thirties you should start going regularly though.

As an aspiring father myself, this interests me. I'll do your survey user.

>19
>Aus
>Currently getting my bach in acting
>1 till about 2 years ago now 7
>8
>With mom, uni is expensive
>This is a long story, but basically, I have difficulty with women. So not very good at all. I'm not a virgin however.
>Extremely good, I could easily live on my own with the most minimal amount of money. I just choose not to.
>7 months. Just got to 2pl8 dead, feeling good.
>None. I have a floating patella in my left knee, can't really sports.
>Left of center, with some center right opinions on things like border control and immigration.
>I'm honestly a little worried. I despise uni and the course I'm doing, acting is my greatest passion, if I wasn't in school, not sure what I'd be doing. I only know school life desu.

Single mom growing up. No father figure, mom had to work so I grew up on internet and media, I was a mixmash of Veeky Forums alt-right opinions and far leftie media convictions. Was a HUGE cuck and fat wimp for most of my life. Got my first GF that emotionally abused me so much I developed split personality disorder that, after she broke up with me, became my dominant personality. I can't say "I love you" to anybody with seriousness without great, actual physical pain. Needless to say its impacted my romance life. So I choose not to peruse sex or relationships. This is easy because I live in a relatively small town.

My advice from this would be; Discretely vet the partners of your children. Let them make their own mistakes of course, but understand well who they spend their time with. I would not recommend intervening however. I wouldn't be the fit person today that I was without the events that happened.

>Upper class Rodger tier
>I've been homeless poor most my life and I feel fantastic about the so very little I have

Thats fucking pathetic dude, you have the whole fucking world at your fingertips dummy, just grab daddys credit card and fucking TRY THINGS.

You don't even have to like something, you'll do something if you wanna do something, and you'll never know what that thing is until you've done it. buy a skateboard or something, the sheer ineptitude of this comment enrages me.

found the fucking brainlet

>70k in the bank
i hope youre trolling bitch, you rich as fuck, youre litterally a new game, go try shit out like

ye, this must be a typo, 70k in the bank is richfag tier

>26
>AusFag
>Been a factory worker since 14, hours are minimal at the moment though so may as well be a NEET
>4
>7
>At home with parents
>No relationships to note in the last 4 years
>Generally pay for my own things, whatever they are. Will seek help from family if need be, never proud of it though.
>Less than a year, hit 1/2/3/4 within 8 months of lifting.
>Basketball, Footy, Soccer during high school, nothing too serious though.
>Less and less left wing as I grow up, much more centrist taking some views from both the left and right. Quite nationalistic.
>I'd like to go back to studying. I want to own a home and start a family, so need to make those career gains.

When I was 18 I had a pretty huge shift in things, for the worse. The girl I was madly in love with cheated on me, I developed a gambling problem, grades went down the shitter and the teachers/school were anything but helpful with that. Eventually I got severely depressed from a combination of that and I dropped out of school and stuck with working where I had since I was younger. I kept telling myself that this year I'd get my shit together and pursue a proper career, and years and years passed without me actually doing anything. Lifting's been the only thing I've managed to challenge myself with consistently in a long time.

I'm a fucking retard for being so content with failure early on. I wish I could take it all back.

Spank your kids. Jesus Christ. Don't be angry about it, but be firm and do not hesitate. Infants are too young, but once they hit 3 do not hesitate.
Kids that young will be absolute sociopaths and hateful assholes at any opportunity, not because of some flaw or moral failing but because they're experimenting with boundaries and behavior and don't yet know better. Also, children cannot be reasoned with and probably lack the developmental ability to understand things on the same level as an adult.
But by NO means beat them. A spanking should get their attention and remind them that you fucking mean business, and shouldn't be some 'punishment' entirely in itself. A spanking to get their attention can be followed up by a separate punishment. You'd be surprised at how much mileage you can get out of "time out".

Also, be aware that your kid might feign respect for your authority as a parent, then turn around and be vile to any other caretaker when you aren't around. Be proactive giving some kind of punishment ability to any adult family that is likely to take care of your kids on occasion. Having to rely on the parent themselves to correct something when the kid is with an aunt/uncle/grandparent doesn't actually help.

Get used to kids crying. If you always fall for the "gotta nurture a crying child" instinct, you aren't helping them socially and emotionally develop, but that only matters once they're solid tots. Don't neglect infants.

>29
>Straya
>finishing up a masters in urban planning, aiming for a steady public service job
>8 - I would like to experience less anxiety about assignments, but still get stuff done and done well so really can't complain
>10 - I have a wide cast of friends and friendship groups, each of them meeting aspects of my social, emotional, and intellectual needs
>In my mother's house, within a 'rent-free housemate' framework while I'm studying
>I've been around the block enough to know that casual sex isn't my jam, had a handful of long-term relationships which each taught me heaps about what I want out of life, and have recently found myself in a relationship that shows significant long-term promise sexually, emotionally, and intellectually.
>Self-sufficient given living rent-free, will enter a job paying more than the median household income next year so feeling pretty good about future prospects.
>yeah I lurk
>Cycling as transport, bouldering as exercise, hiking and camping as weekend activities
>Bureaucratic Leftist
>I'm satisfied with the man I've become and am becoming. The future is bright, presuming you northern hemisphere fucks don't nuke it: I'm moving into a field I think is exciting and important, on a well-paid career track; a beautiful, kind, and clever woman wants to be by my side who wants to be part of that future.

My dad died when I was 10, but it didn't fuck me up. I don't remember much of him, but I know he was a good man and cared very deeply for me. He took me camping a lot, so I'm pretty capable in an outdoorsy setting. He read to me pretty much nightly as a kid, and mostly stuff he himself wanted to read rather than 'kids books'. I reckon this made me smarter than I would've been otherwise, and certainly value intelligence more highly. The only pitfall of this is that I internalised that 'smart boys don't have to be sporty boys' which I'm still unpacking and getting over. Don't let your kids understand intelligence and strength as opposed qualities

excellent post, surprised a self-described bureaucratic leftist has this much sense

we big-government technocrats aren't all cunts hey.
glad you liked it, hope it's instructive for OP

>age
27
>General location
midwest
>career or NEETdom
data scientist/programmer
>Graded emotional wellness (scale of 1-10 1 being several attempted suicides, 10 being godlike happiness)
8, I guess I could be happier but things are really going well and I'm generally in a good mood
>Graded social wellness (still scale of 1-10)
8, I'm a bit awkward sometimes but generally outgoing and funny
>Living situation
rent a 3br house with girlfriend
>relationship status or sexual successes (How are you with romance and sex?)
fucked 20+ women, in a relationship for two years now, live with her, it's going well but I definitely have my doubts and have told her I'm not sold on marriage (she is)
>degree of self-sufficiency, economically speaking
I could live on my own without a big hit to my lifestyle.
>Years lifting, important benchmarks you've recently hit
3 years of crossfit, 170 bw, 405 deadlift, 185 snatch, good cardio
>Any other athletic involvement
nope
>Politics
libertarian/self-sufficiency and self-improvement fetishist
>overall satisfaction all of the above, what does the future hold for you?
things are really great, i'd give myself a 9 on the satisfaction, I wish I could figure out how to be happy with romantic relationships but idk other than that it's good

My parents kind of had this divide because my mother was very religious and my father was not at all, and my mother pushed us into christian school etc which my dad went along with but he would not accept religion. So that tension was always there and would flare up sometimes and idk I always felt like my parents relationship was kind of boring and I wanted adventure and interesting things out of life so I have a sort of negative view of long term relationships.

My dad was always very reticent to give me advice but I remember being 9 or so and asking my dad if he would be mad if I ended up being a garbage man and he told me "You can be whatever you want to be, as long as you are happy, I'm happy" which really stuck with me.

My dad was kind of an asshole though, he had anger problems and was extremely dismissive of people, including his children.

My mom was kind of nutty christian but she was a doctor who was raised poor and fought like fuck to make it through college and med school, so she had a lot of mettle.

Both my parents really focused on work ethic and doing what I need to do, and also being a peace-keeper. I was a middle child and sort of viewed that as an important role I played.

My older sister is a kind of chaotic woman who has been twice divorced before she hit thirty, now she wants to marry a woman. My brother is an obscene alcoholic who will die before he's 40.

>age
23
>General location
Glorius curryland
>career or NEETdom
Have a job but taking a break right now(NEETlife) after which I move to japan for a project
>Graded emotional wellness (scale of 1-10 1 being several attempted suicides, 10 being godlike happiness)
10, I'd say I was depressed in HS/college years, but who isn't
>Graded social wellness (still scale of 1-10)
8, I have 2 long time close friends who I hang out with, and I am on good terms with coworkers and boss
>Living situation
As said earlier, right now I'm taking a break so living with parents, with my younger brother(who goes to college doing his own thing). 10/10, etremely comfy as I have my own room I had back in HS and college. Otherwise when I was working a few months back I lived in an apartment
>relationship status or sexual successes (How are you with romance and sex?)
Never really cared. Have had 2 gfs years ago in HS and college respectively, but still a KHV. I focus on my career and myself so I'd say I'm a narcissist I guess
>degree of self-sufficiency, economically speaking
Pretty self sufficient. I own a piece of land and a car, enough savings to last me at least 10 years from now if I stop working altogether, and I live quite frugally anyways, and don't buy manny clothes or other things
>Years lifting, important benchmarks you've recently hit
7 years, starting going to gym again today after I went to snap city
>Any other athletic involvement
Kickboxing,rock climbing sometimes , used to urbex in HS so was quite agile back then
>Politics
Don't really care these days
>overall satisfaction all of the above, what does the future hold for you?
10/10. I'm quite satisfied. Going to japan in a few months which has been my weeb self's dream, hopefully will make the switch to AI R&D, which has also been my dream. Can't wait, however enjoying this break is a top priority right now.

cont.

Parents were very good in raising me. We are upper middle class, dad is a army general and mom is a teacher. So I got the whole hot and cold,good cop bad cop treatment and all.
Never gave me pocket money and instead just bought me whatever I wanted as long as I performed good at school. I also liked studying so it was a win-win. I always wanted shit like hacksaw, or a cordless drill or soldering iron though. Never really wanted stuff like clothes or shoes or anything, disliked going outdoors and was a mama's boy in general. I handled household chores(dishes,laundry,vaccuming,fixing shit) while younger brother handled going to convenience stores to buy stuff. Later when I got older I had to learn how to social. Started gym and cooking my own meals, mother taught me how to cook,use spices and everything. None of them forced me on what to do or choose in college, and they said it was alright if I wanted to NEET because they are capable of that. Anyways, I got a degree in CS,interned and got a job by 20. Never spoiled me, and I never really had friends back then so I never partied or ate out. They never forced their beliefs (hindu religion, vegetarian) on me. Mom said I could eat a cow if I wanted as long as I cook it myself because she can't handle meat. I think beatings have played a huge part in my upbringing. It is a really, really important aspect of parenting to beat your kids I believe, and if one doesn't beat their kids, then he/she doesn't love them enough. Dad never beat me for breaking shit, or bad scored in school. He encouraged me in those cases. He beat me when I did dumbass shit so that I understand to not be a fucking dumbass. I also never had bad company of friends so never did drugs although I have tried weed and occasionally drink alcohol(whiskey or vodka).
I suppose the more you restrict your kids the more they rebel , so my parents just never really doubted me,just trusted in my ability to judge right from wrong

>25
>New Zealand
>Personal Trainer/ Part Time Pro Wrestler
>4
>8
>Bretty Noice Apartment by the beach
>Engaged, 5 long term partners
>Completely self sufficient
>9, tore my groin muscle for the 4th time, lifts stalling for the millionth time
>Just lift
>Right wing long haired larping viking
>Idk I'm not happy but I'm well off so not sad.
>The future holds more fat clients who cheat on their diet and claim "but I only had a little bit of chocolate!"

>age
24
>General location
Australia
>career or NEETdom
No career, I didn't have the financial support to go to university
>Graded emotional wellness
7 mostly because of my husband
>Graded social wellness
6 we don't really have any friends or people to hang out with other than eachother
>Living situation
Renting room in share house
>relationship status or sexual successes
Married, sexually/romantically healthy (not a sociopathic player who likes to fuck around or count 'conquests', they're people not conquests, I hate hooking up actually, made me feel like shit) I'm not sure how you define a 'success'
>degree of self-sufficiency, economically speaking
Considering I haven't had any support/family since 18 I'd say atleast 9, you learn quickly
>Years lifting, important benchmarks you've recently hit
Did lift for about 3 years, had to stop when I moved cuz I only do it at home
>Any other athletic involvement
None
>Politics
The correct ones
>overall satisfaction all of the above, what does the future hold for you?
My satisfaction isn't that good when it comes to life in general, my past is painful I'm permanently affected by it, saying that my relationship satisfaction is very high we're perfect together even while struggling in our existence, the future does look like it will improve a lot

I can only think of a couple things regarding parents. I became quite introverted and I believe this was a result of my parents moving us around to different towns quite often as a kid to follow work, 8 different schools all up. Self-sufficiency has always been high, we were never given money for nothing, the most I ever got was $10 a week if I did chores. Healthy sexual and romantic health I think are partly a result of my parents being atheists & open about sexual topics, we had the talk at about 10 years old, given first softcore porn magazine at 13, though it turned out to be the wrong gender :/ I'll give mine both

glad this guy is here so i can mention - every race but white beats the shit out of their kids as a matter of course. chinks prefer emotional abuse, but they still hit. spankings now and then are fine, but if you're white, don't beat your kids.

I live in hope that OP has used 'sexual success' to invite shitty people to identify themselves clearly

>left libertarian
Once you realise human evolution affects the brain too and cortisol and crime is lowered in an ethnically homogenous nation, it's a quick path to realising you need to secure a homogenous country for your children's future.

Awaken yourself and stand up for your people, marry your girlfriend if she's worthy of you, meet some brothers, have two sons and a daughter and build something worthwhile.

>21
>Western Canada
>Recovering NEET, now a student and working part-time.
>6/10, My mood vary pretty often from extremely happy to depressed or angry. But most of the time my thoughts have been more positive lately.
>4/10, The only people I ever actually talk to regularily are my mom and sister. I used to be a complete autist with a lot of social anxiety. Now I can actually hold a decent conversation with strangers in public and hopefully I'll find some good bros soon.
>Living with my mom and sister
>Kissless virgin.
>I have no debt, but I wouldn't be able to afford to live by myself while still going through school.
>Started getting into shape 4 months ago. I've already cut 40 pounds of fat, still have around 20 left to go. I've made some decent gains to start with but my concern has been more with cutting to a healthy weight first.
>None
>Beleive it or not /pol/ was actually what inspired me to get off my ass and start becoming a man
>Generally happy with my progress, sometimes I still struggle and become dissolusioned with it but I know that in around a years time once I'm fit, feeling completely confident in myself, and hopefully with a qt3.14 gf it will all have been worth it.

I resent my parents in a lot of ways but I still love them. They were extremely liberal, never disciplined me, and just let me do whatever I wanted.
When I started getting bad grades my mom told me "don't worry, your school grades don't matter later in life anyways". When I started holing myself up in my room and never talking to anyone she told me "don't worry, you'll meet friends at work or in university", etc.
Of course my Mom always thought she was helping me by being comforting and letting me do whatever I wanted, but sometimes you need tough love. I think that's the reason why I slowly devolved into a NEET until I finally decided to change myself recently.

proud of you brother. even if you plateau or even regress for a time, everything will be different for you now that you know progress is possible.

just watch boyz n hood

Thanks user, I appreciate it.

>22
>North west uk
>final year uni economics and part time waiter
>3-8 fluctuating
>4,5?
>rent with my gf
>gf for year and 10 months, sex with 14 women
>fully self sufficient. Need nothing from my family
>3 years in and off. Not my greatest achievement. PRs 95k squat, 70k bench, 145k diddly
>boxing and ma
>right wing libertarian/tradcon
>impatient to get on with life, future plan is accounting career, investment in stocks and property after next economic crash.

Really I was raised in a council house by an ex-alcoholic working single mother. Best thing she did for me was teach me boundaries, Christian values and not drink around me. If anything not having the opportunity to do things as a child because of financial situation, I have become more hungry for success.
My mum being very laissez faire about raising me gave me a lot of freedom with friends when younger to chat up girls and find myself etc. Bad at saving because grew up believing it normal
To spend everything you earn and "treat yourself".

Wanna raise a kid well? Stay married, support them economically. Teach them conservative and Christian values. Ride them over homework and give them room to make mistakes

Well I know it's Veeky Forums so you may be looking for meme answers, but if you are actually serious definitely take a look at this book. I saw it on Veeky Forums the other day, read it to analyze my own childhood, was very significant when coming to certain conclusions about my character.

Love how the only non-autist to post in this thread gets dismissed.

I'm in a similar boat as you user, but 1st year me grad school

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>22
>Bay Area
>1st year Engineering grad student
>4. I'm ok but I hate myself
>7. People like me but I don't like people. I also occasionally (often) get too drunk and act like a prick
>apartment, paid for by parents
>have literal erectile dysfunction from weird masturbating as a kid, I take pills for it and it works out. Currently in a stable relationship, pretty good.
>parents pay for everything, I have no freedom
>I mostly do body weight excercises and play soccer, I'm at the point where I can do basically unlimited pull ups, my original goal
>lots of soccer, futsal, basketball
>centrist
>things are fine, will probably kill myself when my parents die. I'm a complete alcoholic

Read to your kid at night before they go to bed

Good luck OP