>you need to harm animals for protei-

I guess the vegans were right after all.

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aicr.org/foods-that-fight-cancer/foodsthatfightcancer_beans.html
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12594974
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2182395
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19053869
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22614760
tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/294007923
calorieking.com.au/foods/food.php?amount=100&unit=-1&category_id=37753&brand_id=970&food_id=10002676&partner=
amazon.co.uk/Lentil-Flour-mathia-flour-500g/dp/B00HZOWD4A
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC242746/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062981/
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static.openfoodfacts.org/images/products/319/817/200/0120/nutrition_fr.8.full.jpg
ars.usda.gov/news-events/news/research-news/2000/b12-deficiency-may-be-more-widespread-than-thought/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1374738
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698595/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8061589
healthline.com/nutrition/7-nutrients-you-cant-get-from-plants#section1
dailyhealthpost.com/4-brain-nutrients-found-only-in-meat-fish-and-eggs-not-plants/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12#Animal_sources
healthline.com/nutrition/animal-vs-plant-protein#section1
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365
breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health
rainydayfoods.com/split-green-peas-50lb.html
nhs.uk/news/food-and-diet/does-red-meat-affect-male-fertility/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/
suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/true-or-false-dairy-is-toxic-hormone.html
sciencedrivennutrition.com/hormones-milk/
suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html
suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/12/dairy-good-bad-or-ugly-latest-studies.html
suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/07/cheese-your-health-cvd-cancer-metabolic.html
tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07315724.2011.10719992
diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/
chriskresser.com/red-meat-cancer-again-will-it-ever-stop/
mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health
rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf
deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/
deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/
deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/
foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/
deniseminger.com/the-china-study/
westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/
westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us
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reddit.com/r/keto/comments/2qxnro/red_meat_triggers_toxic_immune_reaction_which/cnai2od/
caloriesproper.com/red-meat-wont-kill-you-it-will-make-you-stronger/
suppversity.blogspot.com/search?q=eggs
healthline.com/nutrition/10-proven-health-benefits-of-eggs
healthline.com/nutrition/6-reasons-why-eggs-are-the-healthiest-food-on-the-planet#section1
jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/189529
bmj.com/content/346/bmj.e8539
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html
mentalfloss.com/article/32042/corn-flakes-were-invented-part-anti-masturbation-crusade
chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html
lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_Digestibility_Corrected_Amino_Acid_Score
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>protein
>meme
Pick 2, fag

>I give a fuck about animals hurtin-
No. No, I don't. Shut the fuck up.

>having to take suppliments to make sure you don't die
wtf i love veganism now

Forgot to add semen to the list you fucking gaywad.

>Potato
>2g/100g
>not eating 6kgs of potatoes every fucking day to statisfy your daily protein needs

not going to make it

>legumes
>supplements

These are the people who give you advice.

I'd like to see a chart like this but with price per gram of protein vs meat

>per 100grams

>Chicken breast 100g
>31g protein

>not eating 1kg of peanut butter every fucking day to satisfy your daily protein needs.

A lot of those things on that chart are really cheap honestly.
I buy black beans 50 cents a can, and you can get them cheaper from the bags.

>*swallows his multi*

ebin

You'll be making those zinc libido gains though. Zinc deficiency is a real thing.

>exceedingly expensive foods that destroy the habitat they are farmed in intensively

Right

How many beans do you have to eat to replace 3 chicken breasts? Honest question

>meanwhile grain production increases to meet demand for meat

>highest protein content is lentil flour
>160g protons is over 2000 calories
>160g of protein in egg whites is 750 calories
>expecting a balanced diet geared towards bodybuilding while vegan without heavy supplementation

3-4 cups black beans.

Per chicken breast 3-4 cups.

Basically what happens if you eat lots of low protein vs little high protein.

both require hard work though.

Do you realize how many animals are killed when you grow and harvest plants? Especially if insecticide is used.

12 cups, huh?
I could probably shove that up my dick and not even feel it.

wtf i love veganism now

Fucking hell, vegans punish themselves. How would you eat 12 cups of beans a day?

Knowing you don't harm any animals is helping a lot.

Livestock eat grains, fucktard.

You don't need as much protein as you think.

nah

I tried bulking on a plant-heavy diet once, no where near 12 cups of beans a day but a lot, the size of my shits first thing in the morning was very off putting

No this is wrong
1.5 cups of beans gives you the same protein as a serving of chicken breast.

1 cup of lentils is the same as a serving of chicken breast

I care more about helping animals than the average person but veganism is a ridiclous ideology to follow


You're a joke and wont be taken seriously

Great argument. You'll surely win debates with that logic!

>around flax, don't relax

Ah. I see the cancer thread has been created, good

So it's basically seeds. There's no need to list every seed on the fucking planet.
>Trusting peas and beans
>Eating toxins
never going to make it

>eating pig asshole

I made this image, lad

>Not eating ass
Where do you think you are?

Have fun eating 300 ounces of spinach every day, faggot

>12 cups of black beans is over 1700 calories
If meat is murder, veganism is suicide

Now post calories per gram of protein you faggot.
Friendly reminder that vegan cut is impossible.

>"toxins"

>antinutrients
Literally gains goblins

12 cups of black beans is about 16 dollars
If you dont die of a coronary you'll freeze to death when they shut off your heat because you spent all of your money on your meme diet

>"antinutrients"

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytic_acid

enjoy your deficiencies, never gonna make it

Phytic acid's binding to minerals is mostly a concern with raw/hardly cooked or unleavened foods. Phytic acid itself is a strong cancer fighting, antioxidant compound with benefits for bone health as well.

aicr.org/foods-that-fight-cancer/foodsthatfightcancer_beans.html
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12594974
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2182395
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19053869
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19053869
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22614760

The only time you ever hear about phytic acid as a bad thing is when you read paleo blogs that are desperate for any way to fake a reason for why whole grains and/or legumes shouldn't be eaten.

Whoever made this picture deserves nuclear fire. What a fucking retard.

Try posting calorie content alongside the pic OP.

Did a little analysis. Only really useful for Brits or whoever else has access to Tesco (a British supermarket).

Skinless chicken breast is 24g protein per breast which is 130g. One breast is 154 calories. And in Tesco I can buy 5 breasts for £4, or in other words it's 80 pence for one breast.
tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/294007923

According to this website:
calorieking.com.au/foods/food.php?amount=100&unit=-1&category_id=37753&brand_id=970&food_id=10002676&partner=
100g of lentil flour is 330 calories and 25g protein.

Brits can't buy lentil flour from major supermarkets.
On Amazon 500g of lentil flour is £3.69. So 74 pence per 100g serving which contains 25g protein.
amazon.co.uk/Lentil-Flour-mathia-flour-500g/dp/B00HZOWD4A

Lentils are definitely cheaper calories than chicken.
They are slightly cheaper protein than chicken. But lentils are much more dense in calories.

Can vegans post examples of low calorie protein sources which aren't expensive supplements?
I'm also concerned about animal cruelty and the enviromental strain that industrial animal farming has. But I also want gains and I'm not rich.

There is way too much fiber in all of these foods. I am going to shit my pants everyday.

>www.shittysources.com
>www.reddittierlinks.org
>www.fuckingwikipedia.org
>www.paiddoctors.com

Wow, really convinced me. Try these:

- Vegan diet healthy for all stages of life

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864

- Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC242746/ - Tempeh

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062981/ - Traditional Korean fermented foods provide adequate B12

- Loads vegan products fortified with B12 (produced without the use of animals)

godairyfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/So-Delicious-Dairy-Free-Cashew-Milk-Nutrition-Facts.jpg - Cashew Milk

static.openfoodfacts.org/images/products/319/817/200/0120/nutrition_fr.8.full.jpg - Corn Flakes


- USDA 40% of US population flirting with B12 deficiency due to modern farming

ars.usda.gov/news-events/news/research-news/2000/b12-deficiency-may-be-more-widespread-than-thought/


- Processed meattrash lowers sperm count

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/

- Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976

- Casomorphine in milk is addictive

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1374738

- Milk gives you prostate cancer

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754

- Milk gives you acne

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483

- Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848

- Meat gives you colorectal cancer

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698595/

- Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8061589

>healthline.com/nutrition/7-nutrients-you-cant-get-from-plants#section1
>dailyhealthpost.com/4-brain-nutrients-found-only-in-meat-fish-and-eggs-not-plants/
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12#Animal_sources
>healthline.com/nutrition/animal-vs-plant-protein#section1
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365
>breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health

>Can vegans post examples of low calorie protein sources which aren't expensive supplements?
There are none. Don't be scared of calories, you won't get fat.

Please respond to me here Is it possible to get low calorie high protein plant based foods?

>too much fiber
is there even such a thing

pea protein powder

The cancer ridden digestive system of meatcucks is not able to fully adapt a healthy diet.

>Chicken breast is the cheapest protein sou-
rainydayfoods.com/split-green-peas-50lb.html

>Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc.
>Loads vegan products fortified with B12 (produced without the use of animals)
>USDA 40% of US population flirting with B12 deficiency due to modern farming
>Processed meattrash lowers sperm count
>Crucially, however, none of these variations in diet affected the chance of the couples becoming pregnant after treatment, or having a baby. This means the study cannot prove that processed meat causes lower male fertility
>Importantly, the effect of overall meat intake was not related to fertility success, which is the chance of becoming pregnant after the treatment cycles, or having a live birth.
>nhs.uk/news/food-and-diet/does-red-meat-affect-male-fertility/
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/

lmfao, what do you think livestock eat during their lifespan?

>Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man
>Casomorphine in milk is addictive
>Milk gives you prostate cancer
>Milk gives you acne
>suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/true-or-false-dairy-is-toxic-hormone.html
Also doubt the"milk=prostate cancer" entirely especially when in the article it says:
>Estrone and prostate cancer risk in men: As far as the estrone levels Maruyama et al. measured in their 2010 study are concerned it is very difficult to tell, whether or not the 26% increase in E2 levels is or isn't a problem.
>The estrone values in the Maruyama study are unrealistic. With a normal range of difficult to tell
>unrealistic
and
>What remains to be seen, though, is whether future epidemiological evidence will support or refute the currently heralded hypothesis that dairy consumption increases prostate cancer risk and whether we will be able to identify more feasible explanations for this relations than those that are implicated by the results Maruyama et al. present in their 2010 study.
>sciencedrivennutrition.com/hormones-milk/
>suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html
>suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/12/dairy-good-bad-or-ugly-latest-studies.html
>suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/07/cheese-your-health-cvd-cancer-metabolic.html
>tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07315724.2011.10719992

Don't try to reason with meatcucks.

>Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer
>Meat gives you colorectal cancer
>Processed meattrash lowers sperm count
>diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/
>chriskresser.com/red-meat-cancer-again-will-it-ever-stop/
>mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health
>rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf
>deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/
>deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/
>deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/
>foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/
>deniseminger.com/the-china-study/
>westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/
>westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us
>saragottfriedmd.com/does-meat-cause-cancer-revisiting-the-meat-igf-1-and-cancer-connection/
>reddit.com/r/keto/comments/2qxnro/red_meat_triggers_toxic_immune_reaction_which/cnai2od/
>caloriesproper.com/red-meat-wont-kill-you-it-will-make-you-stronger/

I care about slaves more than the average person but abolitionists are retarded.

>ctrl+f amino
>0 results
Everyone here knows that the human body can't synthesize tissue from any protein, right?

>blogspot

Wow, more shitty blogposts. You cucks really take the best possible sources.

>Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups
>suppversity.blogspot.com/search?q=eggs
>healthline.com/nutrition/10-proven-health-benefits-of-eggs
>healthline.com/nutrition/6-reasons-why-eggs-are-the-healthiest-food-on-the-planet#section1
>jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/189529
>bmj.com/content/346/bmj.e8539

>mfw absolutely idiotic posts like this are standard on Veeky Forums
>mfw lifetime vegan

Tofu - 100g
>76 Cal
>8g protein

2000 Cal = 210g protein

In what situation do you need more than one gram per pound of bodyweight, and why aren't you using a protein shake in combination with your high-protein foods if that's the case?

Protein shakes are food, not a supplement.

>but veganism is a ridiclous ideology to follow
This
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html
>mentalfloss.com/article/32042/corn-flakes-were-invented-part-anti-masturbation-crusade
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html
>lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html

Look at all these extremists buying and eating vegetables. Fucking hippies.

IM ALLERGIC TO NUTS, FUCK YOU

Friendly reminder that there is no reason to eat more than 1g/lbBW.
Layne Norton (who eats meat) did his doctoral thesis on this and came away from it eating less protein than when he started.

Friendly reminder that if you literally can't make gains without maxing out protein, you can pay for a powder.

DON'T EAT NUTS, FUCK YOU

Hey, I eat all of those things along with meat. Fuck vegans.

Animals are assholes

Fuck deer they totaled my car

You thought you were just gonna slip it by us that you posted five Buzzfeed-tier articles, a Wikipedia entry of protein sources literally categorized as being from animals, and a study that has nothing to do with the conversation, huh?

Opinion pieces from carnists don't mean shit.

Yeah but you would literally have to eat nothing but tofu, does that sound reasonable?

They have faces, I can't eat them
Also looks like they're retarded

If you have ibs or crohn's you can't really eat any of these foods

Explain please? I read that certain sources of protein are better than others. Whey and egg whites for instance are better than meats because the protein in them is better but I can't explain why.
t. not him

1 cup of chopped chicken has the same protein as 3 cups of black beans. You're using "serving" to double talk yourself into seeming correct.

If you are so genetically inferior you need to die anyway.

>mfw absolutely idiotic posts like this are standard on Veeky Forums
>mfw 9 essential amino acids
>mfw almost everything in the OP is deficient

>better
by some flawed metrics they're better, by others they're the same. the point is irrelevant anyway, because almost everyone in the 1st world overeats protein without even trying... even if your protein sources are relatively shit, you'll still get all the aminos you need and then some.

No. That's why you eat a variety of sources.

1lb tofu - 344Cal 37g
1cup dry rice - 675Cal 13g
100g spinach - 23Cal 3g
1 scoop Myprotein pea protein - 100Cal 21g

Congrats, I'm now at 74g (1g/kg BW has allowed me to consistently make gains) and 1142 Cal. I can now eat 1300Cal of absolute trash if I want to.

It's just such a non-issue that I don't get the fuss. Even if it were an issue, you can just go for a bike ride and eat some peanut butter to make your cut.

It's just so goddamn easy.

Yep, most vegan protein sources are trash even if they have enough protein to begin with.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_Digestibility_Corrected_Amino_Acid_Score

>mfw any amount of research would reveal that literally every single plant in existence contains all 9 essential amino acids
>mfw people this uneducated are giving you fitness and diet advice

>muh veganism
Just fucking go vegetarian, you get cheese, eggs, milk for dem gainz and no meat to hurt animals.

cheese, eggs and milk hurt animals too

Then might just kill the animals, they won't be hurting anymore.
And I'm pretty sure getting milk and eggs doesn't hurt them more than killing them.

what happens to male chickens in the egg industry? what happens to male calves in the dairy industry?

Become food for the people who don't mind eating meat. You won't convert everyone.

>Vegans care about living things and advocate not killing them
>Plants are living things
>Plants have thought processes
>Vegans murder plants en masse and eat them


Weww lads, savages

Plants are not sentient. A computer has a thought process the same way a plant does. Move on to your next argument.

>Vegans care about living things
wut

>Plants have thought processes
double wut

>dont be scared of calories you wont get fat
Thats some dumbass shit right there

Almost half of these have relatively low protein, almost all of these cause adverse effects to the absorption of vitamins, and will cause disease with constant consumption. Nuts especially are especially bad.

>spinach
>potato
What the fuck am I supposed to eat a god damn bag of potatoes?

>He doesn't know plants have a though process

what is my parsley thinking right now?