/fraud/ - maybe someone else will make a new thread edition

Basically I said "look this is the deal, all I'm worried about is managing my blood pressure and lipids and I want to make sure I'm not doing permanent damage."

Turns out the PA I see does TRT clinics as a side gig so he knows a bit about the stuff. Chill as fuck. Orders blood work for me a few times a year so I know I'm not fucking myself.

I haven't asked him to run any hormone panels on me because I feel like that is basically using the medical system just for curiosity or to better do steroids.

>i spot a fellow manlet
>hes still pretty small but in shape
>looks comical
>hes my size but with a slightly bigger head
>ohgodwhy.jpg
This is what you guys see on me don't you, I want of this wild ride.

On the other hand, physique is finally going the way I want to but my shoulder span is narrow af.

Strange the deeper I go into a blast the better the gains become but sides also rear their ugly heads hard.

Very nice.
How bad is the tren for you?

>How bad is the tren for you?

It's the first time I tried it. BP went from like 132/72 to at times I take it and it's 180/90. This is on 200mg of tren e a week with 500mg test e.

I've upper the tren to 300 and lowered the test to 375. I'm 6 weeks in at the moment.

Gains seem pretty silly, shoulders getting capped and traps growing like they never did on just testosterone.

High Tren, Low Test seems to work best for me so far.
Very solid gains, brings out that roid look for sure.

What do you supllement for the bp and you do cardio right?

I told my doctor and got a lecture about how steroids are like putting diesel in a gasoline car and it'll raise my RBC and give me acne.

Fucking idiot.

He also demanded that we do blood work to prove that I'm not fucking myself up. My test came in high (I had changed suppliers recently), but everything else was perfect. Stupid shit costed me $250 after insurance... Never again.

I'm tempted to just not even see that doctor anymore. I shouldn't know more about this than my doctor does.

Doctors get zero education on steroids, can't blame them really.

Recently moved into my new place and built a home gym. Cardio has fallen off a cliff since then. Gonna put in some outlets and I got some shitty treadmill. LISS incline walking is my jam, it transfers well to hiking which is my main hobby with my wife. I feel like if I was doing regular cardio I'd probably be doing way better.

10mg lisinopril has been keeping me under control for a while while cruising. May need to up it to 20mg.

So lisinopril upped to 20 and restarting cardio should probably help me.

Just took it now fucking off on my computer and it was 154/75. However I drank an ungodly amount on sat so I'm sure that has thrown it off. Two day hangover but was drinking for an old military friend blown to bits that day 10 years ago

>it'll raise my RBC and give me acne
I mean he's not really wrong about that

Hiit or just long steady running keeps my bp completely under control mostly.
But skip a day oh boy.

It's true, but he could at least do some reading when a patient comes to him about it.

I only brought it up because I wanted help parsing the implications for long-term fertility and what can be done to keep it from being damaged. He just scoffed.

Yeah, that's true. But it seems that he didn't realize that TRT and blasting aren't the same when it comes to health implications.

Did you see a GP or a a urologist? Because the latter might be more receptive to discussing hormones.

Just a regular GP.

He acted like I'm an idiot who cares nothing for his health, which was weird, because everything I did and asked was about long-term health, and it was clear that I had been improving health markers and making an effort to continue doing so.

Oh well. I'll just keep making progress and we'll see how he feels next year.

Got a dermatologist appointment for Wednesday, hopefully can get on fin.
Think it might be telogen effluvium from cutting too drastically, or maybe it's just the stupidly high frontloading dose.

If it wasn't known...

Fasting and drinking only coffee/soda/alcohol/fat free milk without something solid rapidly breaks down the stomach lining. You won't know until you're throwing up blood.

Eat celery all day.

More than likely you have no stomach lining because you consumed only beer and wine for a year.

Are you implying that his patented Ethanol Sparing Modified Fast (ESMF) (TM) has health consequences?

SLANDEROUS LIES

You did just agree. If only I also ate celery.

But, seriously, I don't think it's alcohol alone. Heavy alcohol consumption doesn't even raise acidity or cause chronic gastritis. Regular alcohol consumption on the other hand degrades the stomach mucus lining.

I was always drinking heavy amounts of acidic fluids on an empty stomach and when I did eat; mainly fat and protein. Not trying to defend alcohol but I do believe eating celery with my coffee and wine would have prevented this.

There's also a thousand anecdotes about Tren causing acid reflux. Managing acidity may be a chore for steroid users only.

Varies oral capsule give me bad acid reflux. Tabs don't

I was referring to injectables. I'd hope you don't take oral Tren. But yeah, even more anecdotes about orals.

Hell, I even told the ER I downed 2 litres of scotch the previous night. Great insurance so they ran everything. Ultrasound, CT, etc. Perfectly healthy aside from stomach irritation. No liver damage. No signs of alcoholism aside from telling them myself. Which they of course focused on and I can't blame them

I was really scared it was the pancreas until I figured out all those years of fasting on shitloads of coffee, seltzer, and fat free milk played a role. Now I'm confident all I need to do is eat celery often and hopefully quit alcohol.

I didn't have that much investment in this conversation. Have a (you).

I'm mainly venting, love you Bimbo

I'm also a heavy drinker. Shitty vice for getting swole.

I'm thinking I may try pot to see if that offers me similar relaxation with less calories and shitty side effects.

still having nightmares about that one pic bimbs.

I added my sisters friend on FB.

Am scared.

Reminder to bleed yoself if your blood thick

Well shit
This is my diet

Fucking hell, you didn't actually spell out Azusa in your blood did you?

Which pic

Found this cutie under my hood

I want to stop tren but Im afraid to pmsf on 100mg test
Maybe a normal deficit through the rest of October?
Hm

Why wouldnt I
My blood was thick

Cute!
CUUUUUUTE!

I can't do blood. If I tried to blood let myself I'd probably pass out and then bleed out.

Writing actually had me hunch over so I got fuzzy brained and had to stop earlier than I would have liked

But its really not bad
Have redhead be your bleedin buddy

is this your jerry?

you*

I fuckin wish
Its the hardest thing in the world to not check out lip girl thighs

Stop it jerry

I've noticed myself looking at younger and younger girls. It's getting weird.

...

Been blasting tren-a 350mg PW for a while now with a low test/deca base and I like the results
How much difference would I see if I up it to 700 PW or is that a waste?

700 is a lot.

When they wear booty shorts and sit down and you try to look up the booty shorts

Keep it 350 imo

I'm not that far gone yet.

16 year olds are much better.

go 525 before 700

Fuck she accepted my FB request. I don't know what to do. Do I message her straight away or wait a day?

Fuck going through my old pics and reminiscing about exgf.

Back when I used to be effay as fuck and looked like a terrorist 100% of the time. Kind of miss my expensive clothes.

Oh my god is this real life!!!!
Jerry you're one of the best you hear

How do guys like seid stay cut like this all the time? I know he runs tren etc but is it neverending eca stack, dnp?
What's their secret?

uhh lol

does tren make any of you guys itchy? My skin feels kinda tight and itchy and it seems to be coinciding with me becoming vascular as fuck randomly.

There is no secret, when you start bulking be already very lean so that you at the end of your bulk still are lean

God fucking damn it man....out of all the retarded warnings these idiot redditors give out, NONE of them are about the horrors of a massive subq leak. I've just got a full 1Ml of toxic ass fucking tren ace destroying my leg since Saturday. The swelling in the knee has gone down and there isn't any pain but I'm getting random redness now which could be unrelated. My finger is where I shot. Growing some tiny mosquito bite sized lumps there, I think.

this happened to me the first time i pinned quads, huge pain and swelling around the knee no where near where i injected, went away after a week and a bit

from then on i jammed the syringe in deep

lmao how do you "leak" a full ml? that's a straight up subq injection, how did you fuck up that bad?

nigger you're strait up dumb as a fucking door knob. YOU NEVER INJECT INNER THIGH. You pinned literally half an inch from your sciatic nerve, retard. You should be injecting in the vastus lateralis. That said, the bumps look to be from dirty/poorly brewed gear. I would not use that source again, and discontinue use.

>that
>inner thigh
kek

I'm not even attention whoring at this point.

I genuinely need help. I really don't want to fuck this up.

Your fear of loss is astronomical. You should not care this much.

I know. I'm at least trying. I'm impressed with myself that I've even made it this far.

Nano how small are you? I'm a 176cm manlet living in the Netherlands so I can relate

Get tinder and message hos you literally do not care about. Come back to fb girl in a week.

That is his outer thigh tho he just has weird looking knees or Sth

Why are there such a disproportionate amount of dutch people on here?

I do not have the confidence to pick out good pictures of myself.

At least Fb girl has seen me IRL

Do roids aid in losing fat at all or is it really only for maintaining muscle and aiding in a dry, vascular, etc look? If I bulk on test and dbol and I get above 15% bodyfat is it worth it to do a cutting cycle or cut naturally and wait until I'm lean to do a cutting cycle?

Thanks bimbo

is pinning the delt with 1ml of test e through an insulin needle plausible?

All roids increase lipolysis to a degree.

Yes.

thanks

Is it a marginal increase?

I wouldn't say marginal. It depends on the compound, dosage and genetics of course.

But the general consensus is that it's dumb to cut on large amounts of roids. They're more to help preserve muscle.

dhb best steron

It's pretty agreeable. Haven't had any pip from it in a week or so.

170cm

Hey at least we stick to talkig english.

TAKE GOOD CARE OF YOUR LIL BUDDY

No it's the dumbest shit i have heard of, maybe really high dose but why waste you gear on cutting. Use it to maintain muscle during really heavy cuts, but even THEN you have no mass so no mass to maintain, why even waste gear on that.

>170cm
damn, i am 183 cm and that's relative here

Why not see an endocrinologist

>talkig english

I've been mistaken for a child before.

Well shit there goes my credibility.

Because most endos don't actually deal with androgen related issues, whereas urologists typically work more with them. In theory an endo would be great, but most of them focus on the commonly treated things like diabetes and thyroid issues. Horses not zebras, ya know?

Grow a stubble get as big as possible.

I find that most Dutch men look like children t.b.h. Or at least look way younger than they actually are.

Imo low combination of low test, beta genetics and better age genetics than fat burgermans

so I'm thinking of getting into my first cycle, however, i have gyno.

I'm 27, so there's no real coming back from it, but since it's not so bad i figure i could essentially "grow" into it a bit more and make it look less unsightly. Already tried ralox, didn't do shit. what really helped was getting lean.

my real big question is, can i expect greater risk of estrogen related sides since i already have it, or expect it to get worse, or will proper AI and PCT keep me from making it worse?

Fair. Theres a Dr. in my city (adelaide, SA) that specialises in TRT and lowkey helps out a lot of people on gear by prescribing them shit like AI and PCT and HCG etc, such a hnady thing to have

Beard is still shit but Tren is speeding it up nicely.
They don't mistake me for a child anymore luckily.

Wanted to add: got my package today, shits legit.

Do the minoxidil beard treatment. Worked like a charm for me and even months after quitting i kept all the hair.

But the collagen side effect can be scary.

Good to know, i hope our first source get revived. I really liked them.

Any news about them yet?

Why does nobody here look even remotely close to him?

...

No clue where to get the minox kek.

About our old source, no news anywhere, it was my preffered source as well.

i feel like if I were a woman i would be nervous to date the guy on the right, because he could have anyone, same reason if the most beautiful woman in the world wanted to marry me, I don't know if I could say yes because how could she stay with me? just a thought

local drug stores brah

What's so special about him. He looks dyel with small noodle arms

I got my via Ebay

stop being so insecure dude, you cant paint everyone with the same brush.

Is is that easy?
Never really looked into it, could you give me the brand of yours MasT?

Should I up my AI dose if my nipples are sensitive or is it normal for them to be?