So I've recently adopted a more plant based diet and soy sauce is a big component of a lot of the dishes that I prepare. Now...apparently this shit lowers your testosterone and can incur fertility issues, extra estrogen like hormones and man boobs.
I don't want any of that shit so should I stop having soy sauce with my food? I kinda like the taste. I've been sabotaging my own body.
Really though the evidence for soy being bad for hormonal levels is not strong. It just gets memed by bitter meaters.
Thomas Perry
Yes, it contains way to much salt to be good, learn to use yoghurt-based sauces more and den it's k
Bentley Powell
It gets replaced with coconut aminos in meme paleo diets.
Colton Watson
Yes, it's full of estrogen which is analogous to your own
>inb4 vegan internet defense force starts reeing about plant based estrogen having no effect on mammals
I'm a vegetarian myself and I never touch soy products. It's kind of dumb how they want to argue that plant based estrogen can't be absorbed by mammals, but plant based protein and other amino acids can all be absorbed and integrated by our bodies with 100% efficiency.
tldr: don't fall for vegan propoganda and become a soy boy
Joshua Peterson
We have enzymes for breaking down and absorbing protein
The estrogen attaches to fiber molecules and gets shitted out; the small amount that sticks around doesn't reduce test, it actually helps reduce cancer risk and blocks actual estrogen
Matthew Gray
Something about soy sauce being fermented means it doesn't affect estrogen levels. In the us soy is milled and put into everyrhing as a filler. It's not fermented so it does raise estrogen. Or something
Isaac Gomez
Enjoy it in moderation. Just like with dairy. Don't make it the cornerstone ingredient for everything.
Grayson Young
i mean that's a bold claim and you could at least show us one peer reviewed study that backs it up.
> Now...apparently this shit lowers your testosterone and can incur fertility issues, extra estrogen like hormones and man boobs. That's a myth easily disproven, you could look at the gynecomastia/infertility rate of china/japan and see that they're not higher than the world's average
Stop being so dumb
Justin Thompson
Asians men are skinnyfat and feminine
Ian Perry
Brush the levels in food are not even near the amount of estrogen it would take to affect your body. We're talking amounts thousands of times to small to even slightly affect your hormone levels. You'd die of sodium poisoning before even coming close to consuming enough to affect your endocrine system. It's the same as the estrogen in milk meme
Thomas Howard
if you're not using more than like 1 tbps of that then it doesn't really matter, just make sure you use the lowest sodium ones
Andrew Robinson
Just fucking eat it. Get your bloodwork done and then get it done again in 12 Weeks. If tits any significant difference you'll know the cause.
Ryan Carter
fermented soy is fine kikkoman rocks
Elijah Reed
>Now...apparently this shit lowers your testosterone and can incur fertility issues, extra estrogen like hormones and man boobs. yeah, none of that is actually true.
Jace Ward
they don't lift. what should they look like?
Daniel Turner
the problem with your argument is that plant estrogen is actually quite different in chemical composition compared to animal estrogen
amino acids like lysine are the same regardless of what it's sourced from. animals are the only kingdom incapable of nitrogen fixing so you're basically just eating the same shit that you can get from the food they eat directly(plants)
Jaxon Sanchez
American men on average probably have lower test than asians.
Caleb Johnson
>phytoestrogen == estrogen Imagine being this retarded.
Michael Cook
Here is your answer OP. I think it tastes even better than soy sauce personally.
They really went all out on this to get gullible fool his attention.
Samuel Lewis
What if I'm allergic to gluten, don't want the estrogen from soy, and don't want to eat products that have been genetically tampered with?
Dylan Collins
all modern foods we eat today have been genetically tampered with you moron
just look at the difference between wild bananas and the bananas we eat today
also you are not allergic to gluten faggot, and all plants have phytoestrogens, the only food that has significant amount of phytoestrogen is hops, and that's because they have a specific type of phytoestrogen called 8-Prenylnaringenin which is at the very least 10x more estrogenic(as high as 100x) than any type of estrogen found in soy
Alexander Stewart
Why do they put gluten free on things that are zero percent wheat? Of course they are gluten free.
Blake Moore
>being surprised that something with 50% of your daily recommended sodium intake in a tbsp is bad for you
Is this thread serious
Caleb Johnson
>asian men are shorter on average >must be because test levels >"see! soy lowers your test!" meanwhile ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19524224
>CONCLUSION(S): The results of this meta-analysis suggest that neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable T concentrations in men.
Charles Hall
>Chad banana vs virgin seed pod
Angel Garcia
whenever I eat tofu or soy sauce it makes my skin feel hot on my face and my skin itch. am i allergic?
Charles Moore
EWW gross. good thing they genetically modified it