>feel like shit on verge of suicide
>get my test and other hormones tested
>test is LMAO 250 ng/dl, even had L (low) on the paper
>SHBG is ROFLMAO 52 nmol/L (like an 80yo)
>other hormones are ok
>doctor is female
>says it's ok
>"here take some zoloft for that depression and it might fuck up your erection"
>wew lad ok
>take zoloft and put it in the trash
fucking hell this world. help me Veeky Forums, should I take some mild TRT on my own?
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Complaint about symptoms of low T and get a prescription.
Otherwise buy it online or start taking like 20g of creatine a day.
just do steroids
So you spent money on drugs to help your mood, then threw them in the trash? Why would you waste money like that? Why didn't you just get a second opinion?
Yeah dude. Or turn up to another doctor in a nice dress and lipstick and tell them you identify as a biological female who should've been born male and would like to go on hormone treatment. Bonus points if they are Jewish; you will be one of their greatest goy fuckup acheivements.
"So doc, you are saying these levels are okay and you refuse me treatment?"
"Can you please put it on paper?"
"Ooh, suddenly it's okay, what a wonder."
It's like nobody uses their fucking brain.
If you have 250 ng / dl, there's a guideline for it.
Faggot.
>male
>should I be on TRT
Yes.
As long as you are over 20, just go on gear and run TRT year round... Then if you want to do a cycle, you can double the dose for 3 months and then go back to your base dose (250-300/week recommended)
You start losing testosterone by the time you're 30 or when you have a kid anyway. Whichever comes sooner.. So why the fuck wouldn't you just inject testosterone even if it is a few years early?
Don't lose hope. Testosterone will increase your physical capabilities as well as your well being... Within the first month you will feel a difference for sure.
>zoloft in the bin
Sounds like an american brand name, not sure what it is. But I wouldn't feel ok with myself if I didn't recommend you taking it out of the bin and consulting with a trusted man friend.
>spent money
no, it was free, I have medical insurance
is anavar ok?
I did, she said "no, it's normal". private doctors are expensive as hell here, I could go to one next year when I earn enough money
>using your brain
>with severely low T
If you've never felt low T you wont understand. It makes you borderline retarded.
OP: what country are you in. America has low T clinics in every city that will give you whatever you want. If you're in a nanny state like Australia, its harder. You could start going to different docs or straight up ask to be referred to an endo. a couple of repeat low blood tests will get you a prescription. Even from there its hard. You then need to coach the doctor to not give you a retarded dosing protocol like 200mg cyp every 2 weeks. Then you need to convince them to give you HCG, frequent blood tests etc.
If I were you I'd be buying some black market T straight up and injecting asap. Make no mistake, how you feel is 100% related to your T levels.
for reference, I am on self prescribed TRT. My life did a 180 flip on its head within 4 weeks. Everything changed. It was an emotional and spiritual experience almost. The person I was, a person who had lay dormant since age 17, sprung back to life. It was surreal and amazing.
no, you need to replace your testosterone. Anavar does not increase testosterone. You need testosterone. Enanthate or cypionate are good options.
I'd tell your doctor that your levels are low for your age and that you're have symptoms of low T, such as poor libido/erections and low energy. If the doctor doesn't prescribe then you can find a new one or buy it without a prescription.
>>"here take some zoloft for that depression and it might fuck up your erection"
its kinda funny how they prescribe SSRI's like candy but wont prescribe something that has directly to do with the issue
im talking about testo ofc
Zoloft is in the same class of drugs that a lot of school shooters are prescribed months before the shootings. All the way back to Columbine or some shit. Teenagers on this shit. Go do some reading on wikipedia, you'll fuckin hate American psychiatry.
get a new doctor faggot
>depressed kids do school shootings
woah fucking blows my mind
>school shooting totally haven't spiked alongside the rise of prescribing anti-depressants to teenagers as a first line of treatment
op here, there is no way I can convince my doc to give me test. like I said, I will try next year at private clinic when I have some money. if that fails, I'll go black market. I'm europoor
thanks everyone
> Depressed kids get put on anti-depressants
Wow who knew. Did you also know that most people who have severe angina are on GTN sprays? R these sprays the real kulrpit????
Just raise your T naturally
I'm trying, I do lift and eat healthy. only time I don't feel like shit is after hard training. if only I went to the gym when I was a teen..
>giving brain drugs to people whose brains haven't stopped developing yet
Go to a gym.
Talk to the biggest guy about the weather and how you're struggling with low t.
After a few times, bring up that you've considered injecting test.
He will hook you up with test.
Voila.
Non-gang related school shootings are consistently dropping in number despite variables like gun ownership and anti-depressant use increasing.
>female """""doctor""""""""
wew lad
There is something medically wrong with you mate. Nothing lifting or eating healthy is gonna fix.
> giving skin medication to people whose skin hasn't stopped developing yet
> giving pain medication to people whose c-fibres hasn't stopped developing yet
> giving vaccinations to people whose immune systems haven't stopped developing yet
> giving glasses to people whose eyes haven't stopped developing yet
Black market bro.
The doctors will only humiliate and abuse you.
Take your life into your own hands.
I know, I can feel it. you should see my balls they are lite pebbles lol
> shitposting when your brain hasnt stopped developing yet
Demand that you are refered to an endocrinologist for a second opinion. The endocrinologist will know how to treat your low T, by either trying to correct your natural production, or giving you TRT.
Most GPs do not understand anything beyond the regular ailments they encounter every day.
The question Is still in the air: why don't you just get a second opinion?
Think back on your life, anything out of the ordinary?
-trauma to testicles
-prolonged use of medication
-major illnesses
Anything else medically wrong with you throughout life? Have you visited the doctors for anything or been treated for anything out of the ordinary?
Hows your development? How old are you? Height? WHat do you look like? Do you have a beard?
there's more to it than that
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Have you always felt like shit? When was the onset of symptoms? When did you start puberty?
Have you ever been a drinker or a drug user. opioids? antidepressants?
Major obvious one...Have you ever used steroids or prohormones?
This. Im a doctor and our endocrine lectures where brief and mostly based on adrenaline, cortisol and the female cycle. Testosterone was essentially just how it is produced, nothing on its importance. I don't know what GPs learn beyond this but i doubt it's much. Most GPs live to tell you to get lost until your illness becomes such a problem that its a specialist's responsibility.
Probably a result of 24/7 depressives, hypochondriacs and children.
He's clinically low. A young healthy male can drink every weekend, eat like shit, sleep 5 hours a night and still be fairly high T. It takes prolongd abuse of the body over a long time to cause chronic low T in a healthy man. I'm talking years of alcoholism or drug addiction. OP has a medical condition.
told you, no money for that now
I did once squished my balls pretty heavy in 6th grade but I was one of those early puberty kids, beard at 13yo, always looked older than any of my peers, full body hair, balding at 18 lol. but! my voice is a bit high and I have no visible adams apple, I can feel it and it's fucking tiny. ironically I look really old and manly but inside I'm a little kid. I'm 27, 185cm (6' in evil units), no medications or illnesses. I can grow full many beard and my body is hairy as fuck.
Doctors are paid to sell anti-depressants and other drugs you don't need; most of them aren't there to treat you, but get you on a pill. The margins on T replacement are probably too low compared to anti-depressants. I got this shit all the time when trying to get nasal problems fixed, literally always just "oh here's a prescription for Flonase" - your best bet is to find a white or Asian male doctor from a US college you recognize if you can, then there may be some hope.
Defy medical
Goggle it
I-is that you in the pic, senpai?
>you then need to coach the doctor to not give you a retarded dosing protocol like 200mg cyp every 2 weeks.
This is what my doc gave me, when should i do to coach him to give me more?
your coach also gave you something more didn't he?
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This is important.
Go to a white or asian doctor, NEVER to a jewish one. Call me /pol/ how much you like
>I did, she said "no, it's normal"
Normal where? In Sweden?
how do you get your hormones tested? Do you just ask for a hormone test?
I'm not sure wh.. what you're implying user
you dont need more necassarily. just more frequent doses, to avoid a spike and then a trough. e.g 100mg/week rather than 200 every 2 weeks.
You need to get your T checked just before next injection. If its too low, frequency of injection increases. If still low, dosage increases. The doc should be giving you these blood tests.
>comparing medical complications to psychological complications
Isnt a sign of a lot of test is that you have male pattern baldness?
But I also hear that not enough test causes hair loss.
Thanks for the tip user, I just called my doc to ask to switch to a more frequent schedule
Is it difficult to get trt in Australia without a prescription?
I wasnt homo until now.
Well atleast Im the dom.
That fucking perfection there Jesus.
Really makes u think. And I thought I was an 8 + ez
Jesus imagine how hard is for any guy to look decent next to him.
No amount of lifting or money can dix it. I love mommy Nature she still knows best.
I bet he can just BEE urself. And fucking blue eyes to top it all, with some weird effect.
If I looked like that I would freeze myself and clone myself so the genetic mixture is never lost. These ppl should be bred and cloned by State I tell u. Damn son.
How must it be for him to walk down the street hahaha I bet even girls get jelly.
Only question remaining is height.
I never measured mine I feel pretty gr8 t b h
BUT I did relapsed few days in. a row and since that I feel like a girl on a flowery meadow.
Its a good feeling t b h .
>>spent money
>no, it was free, I have medical insurance
>throwing away anti depressants
lol kid, take three or four of them and trip balls
you flaming homo
> 20g of creatine a day.
Go fuck yourself Big Pharma shill. Fucking reported this post.
Lost a friend who ODed on 15g
it doesn't count as 'dying from an overdose' if you kill yourself because you go bald
>You then need to coach the doctor to not give you a retarded dosing protocol like 200mg cyp every 2 weeks
200mg/week is on the high end of TRT, that makes your test go up to about 900-1100ng/dl
He was a happy go lucky 22 year old. Cute gf, great hair, already quite strong. But he had to keep pushing himself. We told him he was fine just the way he was.
He would take 5g creatine occasionally, just for "the pump". I smoke weed occasionally, so I don't judge. But it started to consume him. He would start to take it pre and post workouts. Then another dose in the evening before bed.
His heart couldn't handle the pressure. I had to watch his mother lose her 24 year old son, and his fiancee bawl her eyes out at the funeral.
You might think a small amount cant hurt, but it rarely ever stays a small amount, and its destroying families every single day
who is this women i see her all over this place
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>where's all the plates go?
>Dirk HardPec over there has them doing his "exercises."
>fucking crossfitters
Worst weight hoarding I've seen since last night.
tell her your a man stuck in a MtF's body and need test
if she doesn't, call her a bigot/nazi/shitlord/whatever buzzword is hip right now
it's ben shapiros sister and she is a jew who like to sing opera
FALMING BIsexual
it would seem. Dunno. I dont get erection for him, but the guy is aesthetic af.
checked. I will never say anything bad a bout jews ever again. BUT ONLY IF YOU REPLY TO THIS POST _ user JEWESS GODDESS WILL BE YOUR SEX SLAVE .
Who would have guessed people who display symptoms of MDD get prescribed first line treatment called SSRIs
Blowin my mind man
>hey guys, let's give teenagers psychoactive drugs instead of analyzing their lives and seeing if we can make alterations that could relieve the stress that could be causing these symptoms
People who are underage get therapy first anyways you idiot
This is what people born after 1995 think. Drug for anything.
IN reality he should first start supplementing zinc vitamin D and magnesium, check levels in blood beforehand.
More often than not vit d levels are behind depression. Especially in ppl who dwell online like 4chaners.
>Paid to sell generic drugs
He said every 2 weeks retard