What is /fast/? Fast is a thread for the discussion of intermittent fasting, fasting, water fasting, and fat fasting While fasting alone is fantastic for your health, Consider doing a ketogenic in addition to become god mode
First for telling loopy avacado-screaming man to fuck off with his nightcore music
Christopher Adams
I've been gone from /fast/ for awhile, what the fuck happened, did avacado man hijack the threads and promote dry-fasting?
Mason Sullivan
yes, he's trying to kill roasties that are too stupid to know better
James Bailey
What's his endgame?
Ethan Jenkins
Snake man is about to discover carnivore
Bentley Gutierrez
Getting fatties to lose that fucking weight of course.
Oliver Barnes
Get a bunch of neckbeards foaming at the lips at a thought of a magic potion
William Hernandez
currently on my third day of fasting its a bitch to sleep. i found out that eating a single onion before bad allows me to go to sleep, i still lose the exact same weight, remain in ketosis and autophagy, so idgaf
dafuq
Nathaniel Lewis
Have you even watched his damn videos? There's nothing magic about it and he never claimed there was. It's just an fucking electrolyte drink.
Sebastian Morgan
>eating a single onion A raw onion or do you saute it?
I have this problem too
Joshua Miller
>eat >Can longer concentrate longer than 5 minutes >Feel sleepy Wtf I hate eating now.
Jeremiah Young
I know, its the worst
Paradoxically I still love cooking though
Daniel Bennett
>remain in autophagy
The absolute state of /fast/
Kayden Wright
whats wrong with that?
Ian Scott
>I am eating an onion which contains calories, glucose, and amino acids/anti-oxidants all of which awaken metabolic processes
Jason Foster
so can i drink coffee?
Leo Walker
Only if its black
Daniel Watson
only if you drink it rectally
Ethan Wright
What about bulletproof coffee?
Luis Mitchell
>being this retarded you can literally keep 90% of the benefits of fasting. look up fasting-mimicking diet by valter longo.
he found out that you basically keep most of the benefits of fasting by going very low calorie, staying in ketosis and keeping protein low enough to trigger autophagy.
if you really think 100kcal a day is going to make any difference in a weeklong fast you're fucking retarded. catch up on the science gramps.
Tyler James
Walter Longo is a cuckhold whose work is blinded by his love and boner for veganism
If you listened to any of the lectures on fung or would read any decent pubmed article, even a bandcamp reject like you would know that it's game over once you injest anything with any appreciable amount of carbs or glucose, low glycemic or not
Also I'm going to kill avocado man for tricking people into this cuckery
Cameron Nelson
The coconut oil will help you go into ketosis, so could be a good idea to drink before you fast, but not part-way through.
Also, the butter has proteins which have an insulin response, so no butter.
Dominic Long
stop being such an angry cuck and be pragmatic. eating an onion a day isn't going to do shit, and isn't going to ruin your fucking fast.
i'd fast for longer, but after 20hrs of fast i can't fucking sleep at all and it just ruins the next fucking day. shit is unbearable. i need sleep.
Michael Robinson
>I'm wrong and now I'm going to call you names >I'm a weak bitch
STOP EATING FATTY HAVE A CIGAR OR SOME SHIT
Jacob Turner
i'd rather it be because i'm hungry, but i just want to sleep
Michael Lopez
Past the 24 hour mark of my fast. Am i supposed to feel this hungry? My stomache keeps growling and pauses for like 20 minutes and then repeats
Leo Murphy
you are if you're not keto most people stop feeling hunger by day three my gf only stopped by day 5
try walking (not running) as cardio. LISS cardio is good for depleting liver glycogen stores
Leo Long
I'm currently on day 3 and a half and I haven't felt too insanely hungry. Had a hunger spike about an hour ago, but it quickly went away. I don't think the hunger exactly goes away, you are just mentally able to hold it back longer
Isaac Carter
I wanna fast until thanksgiving to feast, then fast right after. How do I ensure that I can safely break the fast and enjoy a good meal and continue losing weight when I fast again
Colton Collins
take a tablespoon of coconut oil three to four times a day when you're starting your fasts if you're not keto adapted.
It will give you a ketone boost which should help jumpstart the ketone signaling in the brain which has been shown to have anti-hunger properties.
Bulletproof coffee is fine. Coconut oil and butter alike. The small amount of protein from the butter isn't enough to trigger any real sort of response unless you're throwing in entire sticks of butter. In which case protein is the last of your concerns and get plenty of toilet paper ready.
Hudson Allen
take some coconut oil. I'm not even meme-ing. The ketone boost will help with the hunger.
Oliver Smith
just eat again 3 days before thanksgiving with watery fruits/vegetables cucumber,melon,oranges. second day make a normal meal and see how much you want to eat of it. third day do the same. during thanksgiving eat very little from all dishes so you can taste them all. then fill up on whatever dishes you like.
after that just stop eating again. doesnt really matter when you start or how you start a water fast
Austin Adams
does this work on intermittent fasting?
Christopher Miller
I started IF on monday with 16/8, so far only eating chicken and beef with shitton of vegetables, quit drinking everything (including coffee/black tea) and resort only on water. Feeling pretty good so far but i'm still smoking (2 cigarretes a day, each after each meal) What vegetables is the perfect choice? also what can i do to improve? and is cheese really that bad?
John Harris
>What vegetables is the perfect choice? green ones
Noah Sullivan
Cheese is fine if it's quality stuff and unprocessed.
Kale and spinach are great veggies and the least touted superfood is cabbage.
If you want to cut out cigs get a tin of camel wintergreen snus at a gas station. One or teo pouches post meal.
Logan Ortiz
Yeah.
Technically speaking from a biological standpoint the only thing that breaks a fast metabolically is protein and carbs. Fat doesn't impact it.
All coconut oil will do is boost your ketone levels. I rock keto 24/7 and have been for the last 13 years. and I'm rock solid at 2.5mmol for my ketones in a fasted state. If I consume a tablespoon of coconut oil my ketones will jump to about 2.8 or 2.9, and a tablespoon of MCT reliably puts me up to 3.2 or 3.3.
Bentley Wilson
going perfectly good then >the least touted superfood is cabbage why?
Colton Baker
People associate cabbage with sauerkraut which is usually slathered on hotdogs or beside burgers
But it has powerful horomonal effects for males. Look it up.
Noah Miller
>month seven of IF >don't even feel hunger anymore
Ryan Wilson
just drank milk of magnesia while on a dry fast lol
RIP to my anus in about 6 hours
Levi Robinson
Who is this semen demon?
Andrew Bell
Can I chew gum on a fast?
Alexander Thomas
If it has sugar or artificial sweeteners, no.
Lucas Cook
No
Ffs this gets asked like 1-3 times a thread, should be fucking obvious you can't.
Caleb Wood
Can I eat 1 (one) almond on a fast please
Aiden Sanchez
Ok, thanks.
Blake Bell
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Carter Scott
>what vegetables is the perfect choice All of them. The more veggies and the more variety the better.
Personally I have the equivalent of 1.5bags of salad a day with a minimum of 5 "Colors" What I call colors are anything not a leafy green. tomatoes, peppers, mushrooms, carrots, etc. Anything with color. And as much color variety as you can get
Cheese is ok. With some caveats. You want REAL cheese. The processed "cheese product" like 'american cheese' is totally off limits. I wouldn't say you're limited to the quality stuff, because brick cheddar and mozz are fine.
Cheese in general should be used sparingly because of the calories it packs. It's easy to add 200 calories to a meal just from cheese alone. My admonishment to my clients is to avoid cheese and dairy if weight loss is their goal because it's so easy to overdo the calories.
Personally I reccomennd buying only whole cheese, either brick or wheel slice, and shredding off an appropriate portion for each individual meal at meal time if possible. The extra step will kind of help prevent the mindless addition of a handful from the bag.
Charles Campbell
I can't brew my potions in peace because parents. What if their ask for a taste from my potion? Also, today I have to eat some lasagna because that's my favourite food and Mom is doing it just for me because she loves me.
Being skinnyfat and wanting to fast is hell because they'll definitely think I have an eating disorder.
Camden Taylor
Just tell them you're fasting so that your boyfriend can do anal without getting shit on his dick
Alexander Edwards
Martin Berkhan says sugarfree gum is cool
Christopher Peterson
If you're skinnyfat I would suggest just adhering to a IF16:8 schedule with one fasting day per week so you can hit the gym hard and heavy. the wide fasting windows and the fasting day will help move that fat and you'll still have plenty of energy from 6 days of eating to lift heavy.
Wyatt Brooks
Well he's wrong because artificial sweeteners illicit an insulin response despite having no effect on blood sugar level.
Mason Smith
say your on a spiritual journey like Ghandi and Buddha
Kayden Diaz
What's a good fasting routine for someone who is 244Ibs, 36%bf, and working in construction as labor?
I was initially planning on eating at breakfast and wait until next breakfast. That way i can lose weight and burn a bit of fat. Maybe have a 2 day fast a week and switch it to the 24 hr one
David Rogers
i have done a workout yesterday after 7 days of fasting. i was fine. you will just work somewhat slower then normally.
Hunter Morgan
How many calories should I eat during the 8 hours? I'm 74kg 13% bf my squat is 1pl8 for 5x5
Nathan Peterson
as little as you can if you want to lose fat
Cameron White
did you try exercising like walking to help sleep
Samuel Roberts
Starting dry in a few hours aim is 72 hours at least.
How do I hydrate quickly? I forgot to drink today
Gabriel Roberts
Can someone help me with my fasting routine? 5'1 141lbs femanlet I train 5 days a week, lift 3 of those days in the morning.
I have been trying IF 16:8, not a problem, sometimes drink black coffee beteween fasts as a preworkout, and can last until 19:5 or 20:4 if I feel like it.
I'm eating around 1100 calories a day, mostly protein.
I'll try to add coconut oil to the black coffee before starting another fast.
Any suggestions, critiques?
Matthew Fisher
You spam this in every thread.
1.you'll be fine
Ian Mitchell
ok get some water
now drink it
Logan Garcia
>141 lbs man the harpoons
but if you want my advice, do monday-friday no eating
then Saturday-sunday do 8-16
Carson Green
you could try to skip eating for a whole day on a day you dont workout. so that would probably be close to a 48 hours fast once a week.
Isaac Wright
Is that Jordan Peterson?
Jason Reed
Would cardio fuck it up? I could try it on a cardio day. Thanks for the advice
Luke Morgan
nothing fucks you up while fasting except not getting enough salt
you can go on a 7day fast right now and do cardio everyday.
hell i went to the gym for an hour after 7 days of fasting. and tomorrow is my 9th day and i will go again.
all i feel is hungry. i dont feel any light headedness.
Lucas Long
>tfw contemplating eating a chocolate bar so I can go to sleep tonight
WHY IS THERE TOO MUCH FUCKING ENERGY IN MY SYSTEM WHEN FASTING
Eli Sanchez
Your fat is a constant source of energy
Try reading
Charles Bell
Ok thanks, in the 48 hour period water is permitted yes? Is also coffee allowed? should I take salt?
Xavier Nelson
go for a jog or at least a 10 min walk
Juan Allen
i have the same. just go out for a walk for however long it takes to calm down.
Adam Rogers
HOURLY REMINDER FAT FASTING IS SUPERIOR
Low-carb diets burn off fat even better than a fast. When a low-carb diet was pitted against a 10-day fast in an American study, those who'd fasted lost 21 lbs in total, but only 7.5 lbs of that was fat, whereas those on the low-carb diet lost 14.5 lbs in total , all but 0.5 lbs of which was body fat.
Several other studies confirmed these early findings. In 1965, Dr Frederick Benoit and his associates at Oakland Naval Hospital in the USA decided to compare the effects of a 1,000-calorie high-fat diet, including 10 g of carbohydrate, with the effects of fasting using 14 men weighing between 230 and 290 lb (104-132 kg). With the 10-day fast there was a loss of 21 lb (10 kg) on average. Most of this weight loss was in lean body weight, and only 7.5 lb (3.4 kg) was of body fat. But with the high-fat and 10 g of carbohydrate diet, an average total loss of 14.5 lb (6.6 kg) was recorded.
Lucas Anderson
Coffee & water are allowed
You should take salt if you feel nauseous or light-headed
Robert Nguyen
instructions not clear enough
Kayden Murphy
in 48 hours salt is not really necessary but if you get headaches or light in the head lick your finger dip it in some salt and stuff it in your throat. potassium is needed for longer fasts (+2 days)
you could take coffee but its not very good for the stomach (doesnt really compare to other health issues though so you could just ignore that) just dont go overboard.
water is always permitted unless you do a dryfast.
Owen Bailey
losing 14lbs of fat in 10 days is completely impossible, unless you are 700lbs
Parker Miller
Well you're wrong.
Splenda, the Yellow has 95% dextrose and maltodextrin which are both calorie molecules hence it raises blood sugar with the balance being sucralose. Therefore it is NOT an artificial sweetener, but a sugar substitute. 3.4 calories per packet.
The PINK packets Saccharin, has zero calories and is a true artificial sweetener
The GREEN packets, stevia also have no calories.
The BLUE packet, Aspartame has 4 calories as well
John Clark
They all increase insulin regardless
Luis Allen
But by how much, and for how long, is the question
Jackson Parker
If you do the one day of fasting per week then I would suggest you consume your TDEE in calories the other 6 days of the week. The calorie deficit from the one day fast will average out to aroun 400-500 calories per day over the week. And by consuming your full daily needs on feeding days you're providing plenty of metabolic energy for your growth.
Brandon Morris
FEEBLE MORTAL CAN'T WRAP HIS MIND AROUND THE POWER OF THE FAT FAST
Nolan Edwards
>they all increase insulin
No. they do not. the yellow and the blue will. But the pink and green do not have any effect on blood sugar or insulin. You're making a claim. Now back it up with research. I'll wait.
Ryder Fisher
should i eat fat right now if i have not eaten in 6 days?
Leo Peterson
Fung references studies in his book
Some more than sugar, some less. Regardless you cannot consume them without consequence.
Brandon Bailey
Eating anything, including pure fat, does have an insuline response. But that's based on hormones your stomach makes when food enters and not blood sugar levels. But It's often not worth considering.
Anyway, one reason not to use artificial sweeters would be to get over your addiction to sweetness.
Owen Cook
If Martin Berkhan jumped off a bridge, would you do it too?
Blake Thompson
Its in Fung's book which means its probably on his blog.
Insulin levels can in fact increase or decrease regardless of blood sugar level. That's the misconception which leads high-fructose-corn-syrup to score low on the glycemic index despite being worse than sugar for developing insulin resistance and obesity.
Nathan Cook
Thanks, will try this tomorrow and see how it goes.
Luis Hill
YOU SHOULD DO WHAT TIM FERRIS DID IN THAT FUCKING VIDEO OP KEEPS LINKING THAT IT FAILS TO MENTION HE WAS FAT FASTING
>START "FASTING" WITH CAPRYLIC ACID C8, MCTS, AND COCNUT OIL
In the book Ferriss details his process for his 3 day fast that includes the use of exogenous ketones and C8 MCT Oil. MCT or Medium chain triglycerides are found in high concentrations (62-65%) in coconut oil and are metabolised into ketones in the liver.