What is /fast/? Fast is a thread for the discussion of intermittent fasting, fasting, water fasting, and fat fasting While fasting alone is fantastic for your health, Consider doing a ketogenic in addition to become god mode
>day 7 I want to order a large pizza and eat the entire thing, but it's in my head... not really physically feeling any hunger.
Matthew Davis
when you finally succumb, just eat the cheese sauce and toppings. until then, you don't need it :D
eat it all at once then fast for at least 24 hours after that
David Thompson
How can I successfully fast for the next 2 days? How to prepare mentally, how to fight urges to eat, things I can do etc etc. This is important to not be behind on my loss-gains.
Isaiah Gonzalez
happy to help friend
1) you have to wholly and completely believe that you will not die, you will not be doing something crazy or unhealthy, and that this is actually making you healthier
2) you have to NOT drink too much water.
3) consequently you have to have enough sodium and potassium in body beforehand, or supplement during. Feeling weak or fatigued? Eat some salt and potassium. They should be dissolved into some water. Nothing else
4) stick with it, find a hobby, talk to some friends for hours. Anything to occupy your time
5) Don't exercise too heavy.
Jayden Nelson
Nah, just going to let it pass. Acknowledging cravings as the remnants of food addiction is good for me, they get lesser and lesser over time.
Jacob Edwards
Yes I agree. I still get them too. Mostly it is resolved with getting in more salt and potassium.
The good news is that when you are at your goal weight, you can eat pretty much like shit and do IF and some exercise and literally never gain weight.
Your current weight has been accumulated for years and years.
Joshua Bailey
>2) you have to NOT drink too much water.
Thanks. But why this? Also, where do you get pure potassium?
Adrian Bennett
Drinking too much water just flushed minerals out of your body for no reason.
NoSalt is a salt alternative that is just potassium chloride. Find it at common grocers everywhere.
Julian Hughes
This is just my experiences, but there are no real hunger pains outside of the initial 24 hours.
I feel hunger pains the first night and then nothing significant going forward.
I might feel a slight pang of hunger when I first wake up, mild, lasts like 2 minutes. After that nothing all day.
Sebastian Walker
this guy is indeed correct!! good luck to both of you
Your body conducts electricity basically through nerves, and sodium and potassium assist in this process
If you don't have enough grams (literally) of electrolytes in your body, especially if you have too much water in there too, you will feel muscle soreness, shakiness, and pain. Basically heroin withdrawal symptoms.
If it gets bad enough, you will begin to have seizures, go into a coma, and die.
A number of people have died of very quick hyponatremia. You definitely don't want it :D
Justin Lewis
Can someone upload the book The Complete Guide to Fasting: Heal Your Body Through Intermittent, Alternate-Day, and Extended Fasting ??
if you are on Windows and don't want to torrent, then what you should do is download Lubuntu, burn it to a USB stick, and boot your computer into Lubuntu and torrent it with transmission
or I guess I could upload it to mega but I'm lazy
Jayden Ross
that is enough, gonna download it tomorrow, thanks dude
Mason Lopez
>tfw less than 12 hours before breaking my 5-day fast
Nathan Rogers
np good luck, the top result seems complete and comes with audio too
Joseph Morris
it'll all be worth it soon!!!
Samuel Ross
Once I'm deep into a fast I start to have some euphoria. Is this why some religious people associate fasting with enlightenment?
Elijah Campbell
>taking hgh in the current year It's like you want your organs to grow 3x the size so you can become an unaesthetic Delrey misfit. I can't take this fucking board seriously at all.
Jeremiah Diaz
Does fasting cause muscle wasting? Doesn't your body burn protein from muscle and fat when you fast?
Daniel Sanchez
Wow what a good question man. Someone should really add links in the OP to this very rare and never asked or assumed question.
Jaxon Evans
Should I ignore science and just follow the snake cult?
Why the fuck are you fasting for so long you mad man
Jace Nelson
56 hours into my dry fast. I have ascented above humanity. Not feeling thirsty at all and my piss is still clear. Why? I was thinking about breaking it tommorow but cause I still feel fine as fuck I might continue
William Roberts
science and snake cult go hand by hand
Joseph Harris
What happens if I take ECA stack on fast.is it good idea?
Kevin Lee
You must have been really hydrated before the fast to still piss clear.... I do an ECA stack + DNP I turn out fine. Max of two weeks though for water fasting. other wise you might acquire PN
Isaac Ward
>You must have been really hydrated before the fast to still piss clear.... Yeah reason why I´m trying it is to get rid of water bloat
Hudson Howard
Be careful, no food means faster and stronger reaction
Parker Gonzalez
Trying to compete? or do you belong in /fat/? I'm leaning towards the second because most people don't store that much water
James Bennett
fat
Cameron Phillips
good you're on /fast/. Got me from from 200 to 160 fasted 170 fed
Parker Mitchell
fasting is great. Great I found it. Been on it for some time already. I normaly do water wast but I wanted to try this
Christian Green
I water fasted from 198 to 165. We are all going to make it.
Camden Thomas
eating diverts your body from healing stuff. (of course not 100%) but as long as your fat not eating will heal things faster then eating.
Joshua Barnes
anything interesting in that book that i wouldnt already know from fung and other links in op?
Nicholas Phillips
i am currently on 11 days. iam still not 10-12% bf so i just continue
Carson Carter
do you even lift bro? or you're just trying to switch gender or smth
Ayden Sanchez
dont know wtf that has to do with anything (gender part) do you want to be 18% fat?
i have lifted weight on my fast, yes.
Andrew Jenkins
well you can't fast all that long and not lose muscle or you'll just become skinnyfat.
Sebastian Williams
can you please fucking leave this thread, holy shit go read some of "op's" links
Jacob Green
post lifts, twink
Charles Powell
55kg OHP 85kg bencg slightly injured on squats so i do something else (way before i started fasting) 3 plate deadlift
not amazing lifts but enough to get you the fuck out.
Alexander Foster
Which is why fat fast is retarded. It stops autophagy and leaves you with loose skin
Jonathan Martinez
I'm new to fasting and Veeky Forums in general. I've quit my habit of overeating about a month ago, and I'm looking into fasting for a full day once every week. I'm basically just trying to lose weight and consume less calories. I work out for about 30 minutes every day (basic cardio + weights).
Is fasting once a week OK to do? Thanks a lot, in advance.
Joshua Powell
read the op fag and yes it is, but do it right
Cooper James
Its better than nothing. Idk how fat you are but if you want to lose fat its better to fast longer. You can go weeks or even months without eating if you are fat enough
Leo Stewart
240 pounds, 5' 11", big framed male, so about 50-60 pounds overweight.
Mason Thompson
>You can go weeks or even months without eating if you are fat enough link.
you NEED to take electrolytes like he says or you will feel like shit (muscle cramps,light headness,rapid heart beat)
get pink salt and no salt (also known as potassium chloride). Dont even do it without this
Asher Murphy
get the fuck outta here you god damn every 3 hours meal having mouthbreather
Henry Roberts
so when i want to get shredded and only eat on workout days. should i eat after or before. and does it matter if i eat it like 8 hours after working out or would it be better to eat within 2 hours after a workout.
David Kelly
doesn't fucking matter, just don't it right before exercising, fatty
Jace Gomez
i am not fat anymore thats why i asked.
Ethan Rodriguez
after dont eat before and its better to eat right after workout
Andrew Parker
what does an acidic stomach mean? i thought it was because i took to much lemon juice or apple cidar vinegar but that was 3-4 days ago
Nicholas Gonzalez
since keto is basically the same as fasting, what if i ate a big carby meal for dinner but ate keto the rest of the time? would that provide the benefits of OMAD while allowing me to make gains? (i don't have a huge amount of fat to lose.)
Isaac Robinson
Some of us would say yes, and here's why (and why not).
When you eat just one meal, you only spike your insulin once. Additionally, there is only so many calories your body can absorb at one time before it makes its way through your intestines as waste.
We have evidence of this from Snake Diet guy, who ate, on a daily basis, literal pounds of solely bacon + grease. He didn't gain a single ounce, because he was fasting 23.5 hours per day and eating just once.
Obviously though bacon is not carbs. But I'm willing to bet that the benefits of fasting 23.5 hours per day would still come through, especially if you are eating vegetables and not just pure maple syrup or something
The opposing opinion to this of course is that calories in = calories out and all sugars and carbs will fuck you up period
let me know what you think
Benjamin Morris
>well you can't fast all that long and not lose muscle or you'll just become skinnyfat.
Liam Walker
that is pretty much my thinking. the fact is, i've been eating like this for a couple of weeks now. my lifts have been going up, while my belly – which, during previous attempts to 'bulk' (with multiple carby meals per day), always gets bigger quickly – is basically the same size.
maybe it's too soon to tell... but on the other hand, my deadlift, bench and press are all higher than they've ever been, with my squat not far off my max.
Benjamin James
>since keto is basically the same as fasting ITS NOT
James Turner
i can't believe people acutally take snake diet autism seriously
Ryan Williams
disprove it then you queer
Isaiah Thomas
im not a queer so im gonna gonna disprove have fun with your 2 weeks results and then going back to be a lard ass
Julian Myers
have fun with being lard ass your whole life lel
Christopher Turner
TIL that Veeky Forums is populated by absolutely fucking retarded 7 year olds
Basically, about 70 people in their late 50s were admitted to the hospital with severe diseases that were causing them single/multi organ failure.
The study measured the size of their leg muscle for 10 days while they were put on breathing/feeding tubes due to their organ failure.
Most people lost nearly 20% of their leg size in just 10 days, regardless of how much food they were being administered.
So basically their body was eating its own leg muscle at a very rapid rate in an attempt to preserve and restore their vital organs back to a functional state
TLDR if you have organ failure, your body will metabolize leg protein at a MUCH FASTER RATE than what a typical metabolic calculator would suggest.
IMPLICATIONS FOR US: we obviously don't have organ failure, but fat/muscle can be POSSIBLY be broken down faster than a metabolic calculator would suggest.
Michael Lewis
you know the world record of fasting? 382 days you know how fast he became a lardass after losing 125 kg? never he lived to a healthy 90 something years and never became overweight again.
fasting gets rid of your food addiction.
Nathaniel Hernandez
yeah duh. but if you workout during fasting or if you never cared about muscle because you never went to the gym and you just want to live a normal life instead of a landwhale. there is no problem.
Adam Cox
not the person you are replying to but... fasting can definitely be a modality for treating your food addiction for sure.
but ultimately you have to put in work to get that benefit. It's not as simple as like, "if you take enough of this sleeping pill, you WILL fall asleep", which is a true statement for 99.9% of the world
Also I really want to know how much muscle that guy had underneath all of that fat. The irish hunger strikers only lasted 60 days on average due to organ failure, not lack of energy from fat
Wyatt Diaz
How do I avoid headaches while fasting? I need to study for college and headaches kill me
Camden Martin
haha I was expecting that reaction. I found myself saying "duh" too, but my goal here is not to turn people away from fasting
what is most interesting to me is that if your body is put into a certain mode, such as "fasting", or "severely ill", or "severely cold", etc etc, IT'S POSSIBLE your metabolism changes in ways that there is not a simple calculator on the internet for
the basic calculators on the internet will tell you that someone who is bedridden and old will only burn 1800 calories per day, which is not nearly enough to cause 10 pounds of muscle wasting in 10 days
Jackson Lewis
>only lasted 60 days >irish workers how the fuck are those people fat? of course normal human beings can only last so long. the world record guy was fucking fat
and you dont need to put in any effort to keep your weight, you lost your fucking food addiction. you can just eat regular meals and feel no need to snack.
fucking lurk longer. its salt you need, retard any other explanation can be that this is your first few days of your first time in your live that you went without food every 10 minutes. this means you are experiencing "meth" like withdrawals. you could do omad for a while and go into 48 hour fasts to ease into it. or you could just take it and sober up and fast for 4+ days
Alexander Anderson
lots of salt and potassium (brand NoSalt) dissolved into a SMALL AMOUNT of water, not much more than 8 oz (otherwise you'll piss out vital electrolytes)
any headache, fatigue, or muscle soreness is a symptom of mild electrolyte imbalance, which can be caused by OVERHYDRATION and/or HYPONATREMIA
Mason Gonzalez
you seem to not be hearing me and angry, perhaps this is a symptom of your fasting, or you are just an angry internet poster
It is ALLEGED, in MEDICAL LITERATURE, that REGARDLESS OF BODY FAT MASS, a person who is fasting WILL DIE around 60-70 days due to ORGAN FAILURE.
Do you understand what that means? A 6 foot tall male who weighs 160lb, and a 6 foot tall male who weighs 300 lbs, MAY DIE at around the same time on a fast due to ORGAN FAILURE caused by the inability of the body to continuously, catabolically break down protein for months on end without permanent damage to organ tissue.
Not all of the irish strikers were skinny. Nobody here is able to do a fucking 60 day fast anyway. If they did, they would need to prove it.
Angel Jackson
Can I make like a deer and just lick the salt and potassium? I can't handle the water I drink being so disgustingly salty.
Sebastian Rivera
NOBODY WHO IS FUCKING OBESE WILL DIE TO ORGAN FAILURE WITHIN A MERE 60 DAYS.
You absolutely can, I do it every day. Beware of the potassium though, it really, really burns your tongue and gums. It's kind of crazy haha. That one is better with water.
The sodium salt though is heavenly and delicious.
Jacob Murphy
you're not supposed to put the salt into the water. that would be like drinking a glass of sweat.
Yes, I've seen the article posted here. Obviously he achieved his results. But he was free to leave the hospital for days at a time, unsupervised. Do you really, really truly believe he didn't eat a SINGLE PIECE OF FOOD during that entire time?
Whether he did or didn't, 20g of protein (80 calories) will not catastrophically fuck up your fast every week or two. Given the choice between permanent organ damage or slightly less weight loss, i'll take the fucking protein please and thank you
There is no point in being an absolute purist, when fasting 99% of the time is infinitely preferable to fasting a true 100% of the time.
Chase Anderson
Ok sorry for asking. Yeah it's my first time cause I had gastritis for years and my doctor told me to eat small things every 3 hours, I'm not fat at all (170cm, 57kg) but I want to try fast and I really can't do it. Will try what you told me Thanks.
Jason Murphy
Good luck, and my apologies for the anger with which that dejected, hostile dude replied to you.
You'll be just fine, you should never be afraid to adapt things so that they are optimally enjoyable for you.
Once the scale stops dropping, that's when you can begin to question what's going on haha
Dylan Kelly
drink snake juice
Gabriel King
Thanks a bunch, user. This now sounds way more doable. I'm looking forward to the rest of my fast.
I saw a link in the OP before with this crazy man yelling about fatties and making this drink mix with the salt an potassium, so I figured that was how everyone did it.
Jaxon Gonzalez
Ate a sub, Mac and cheese, Cheetos and a salad w toppings yesterday. 2,300-2,2800 calories.
It was the 2nd meal I had in like 7 days so it wasn't THAT bad but still it hurts my spirit. Gonna be fasting for least another 4 days, pray for me. I decided to skip Thanksgiving food