Okay, theoretically, if I wanted to see if onions had a test effect, how should I go about setting up the experiment...

it would be better if i had a friend ;_;

I'll ask my bud who's going to CC right now. He should have some time off around Christmas. Maybe some Veeky Forumsbros can join me in the experiment.

How retarded could you even be? We make our own country.

should i take an iron supplement while I do this?

Right now all i take is Zinc, Vitamin C, and Vitamin D3

Nah, there needs to be a control for the pilot study. Given that he'll be making life style changes, like a consistent sleep routine and given that he'll be a NEET he might gym more that he normally would we would need a control just to try and eliminate those variables. Also a control would be good just for the sake of turning this into a bigger trial, which I'd be fine with running if there are decent initial findings

I figured the control would be the first week where I do everything like I'm going to do in the coming month but without onions.

Okay, but still you need a bigger sample size than 1. We could do a sort of Veeky Forums study where people report in, do bloodworks at the start and the end and post their intake

There are already many Veeky Forumsbronions who are testing this shit out.

I'd be down for that. I thought since I'd have so much free time it might be fun to document my journey and share it with you guys but whoever wants to should totally join the experiment.

the problem with that is that some people could argue that your test levels could change due to things like better sleep quality or you taking better notice of your diet because of the experiment. Those changes would take more than a week to become apparent

Somewhere there is an onion farmer furiously shitposting to Veeky Forums

We are actually doing some work on this board. How is that even possible?

yeah but have any of them controlled for other variables? right now it seems anecdotal

Dude, don't be an idiot. Just stick to 1-2 per day or every other day. Unless you want to do it FOR SCIENCE

Yeah that's what I mean by have this as a pilot study. Once we have the OP show a positive result with his method we can then get a bunch of others to do it as well which would give us a significant result

n=1 case studies are a bonus

I was afraid of that. But I work nights right now so quitting will be a pretty radical change. I turned in my two weeks' yesterday so I'll officially be a NEET on Dec. 5

idk i want to do whatever would be most amusing for Veeky Forums while at the same time finding out whatever i can find out.

If people are actually keen to have this as a trial I'll look into the ethical considerations as well as developing a more solid methodology for people to carry out. Possibly set up a blind system for participants to anonymously send in their levels and diets/ work outs so that we can analyze the data properly. We could probably get this shit published in some ass journal

smell isn't a problem since I'll be a NEET all december.

What job do you have set up for after you become a NEET?
This could still work and there could be useful insights gained

Stop polluting each thread with your crap you shill. Go to your boss and tell him to fuck you and himself in the ass.

Do it please, i would be up for this

How do you get your test checked? Just ask the doctor, or do you have to fake some sort of medical concern?

I don't really have one. I was thinking of doing some cabinetry.

Ate 5 cloves of garlic and a red onion
Normies fear my smell and test level now

"Stop polluting each thread with your crap you shill. Go to your boss and tell him to fuck you and himself in the ass."

The message has to be put out here, onions as a meal substitute, testosterone booster or medication replacement is a ridiculous proposition. Why are you so vehemently promoting them? I think you are knowingly trying to make people ill.

Depends on where you are. You should be able to get your doctor to check your test levels, it's not too much of a big deal. You shouldn't have to try to fake anything but if he does ask just say something like you're feeling weak and your libido is shit.

Or if you;re in australia I can do it, which sounds creepy as fuck

Says who? Lemme tell you a little something. If you're a shill nobody cares what you have to say. Now run along.

Have you researched this at all? I found this by three minutes of google:

ONION COMPOSITION (WIKIPEDIA)
Considerable differences exist between onion varieties in phytochemical content, particularly for polyphenols, with shallots having the highest level, six times the amount found in Vidalia onions.

Yellow onions have the highest total flavonoid content, an amount 11 times higher than in white onions. Red onions have considerable content of anthocyanin pigments, with at least 25 different compounds identified representing 10% of total flavonoid content.

>polyphenols:
"Some polyphenols are considered antinutrients, compounds that interfere with the absorption of essential nutrients, especially iron and other metal ions, but also by binding to digestive enzymes and other proteins, particularly in ruminants."

>Yellow onions have the highest total flavonoid content:
"Recently, a renewed interest in flavonoids has been fueled by the antioxidant and ESTROGENIC effects ascribed to them....At higher doses, flavonoids may act as mutagens, pro-oxidants that generate free radicals, and as inhibitors of key enzymes involved in hormone metabolism."

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11035267
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion#Composition
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphenol#Content_in_food

what do you think is going to happen from someone eating a raw onion? people used to do that all the time. germans and italians and shit still do.

>Or if you;re in australia I can do it, which sounds creepy as fuck
kek, im in Germany. Any fellow krauts who know how the doctors handle it here?

>Have you researched this at all?

pretty obviously not lol

but if it has a negative effect on T then we'll see that too i guess. it's not going to kill me so who cares?

>tfw vegan that eats red onions everyday

kek at you low test meatcucks

Well do you think you would be able to keep a consistent routine going even after you started work?

Given your circumstance I think the best way to do things would be to give it too weeks for your "control" period then at least a month to start seeing a real difference. If you could get your blood tested once every 2 weeks that would be great.
First at the start of the "control" period
Second at the end of the control period
3rd after 2 weeks of onioning
and 4th after 4 weeks of onioning

Nice copypasta

>Well do you think you would be able to keep a consistent routine going even after you started work?

who knows? im really just doing this because i think it would be funny and i literally have nothing better to do

...

This shill again. Gtfo newfag, you can't even quote properly.

Essentially what I'd be looking for is a consistent gym routine, sleep pattern, and onion consumption.

It wouldn't need to be crazy strict, like you could miss a gym day here and there, or go you and get drunk and get fuck all sleep on occasion just as long as most of the time you had a pretty normal routine

"what do you think is going to happen from someone eating a raw onion? people used to do that all the time. germans and italians and shit still do."

I am not saying the consumption of onions is a bad thing. You could eat diced onions as a side or use them in a burger, for example. Please re-read what I wrote, I am worried about vulnerable people on this forum using them as meal substitutes, testosterone boosters or medication replacements.

You're new here aren't you? Who has paid you to come and shill this nonsense?

Friendly reminder that (((journalists))) are monitoring Veeky Forums and /pol/ to keep tabs on the/onionchad/ uprising.

Why are you still here brainlet? They are not meal substitutes, they are PART of the meal. FUCK. OFF.

Just gonna copy paste my post from the other thread.

I've never attempted a Veeky Forums meme before but fuck me this onion thing is actually working pretty great for me.

I'm way above most of Veeky Forums when it comes to strength and I'm pretty close to natty plateau on most of my lifts but I swear to god this onion thing pushed me through the 4 plate barrier on my bench.

Hit 180kg for a triple which was completely out of the realm of possibility a week ago.

If anyone's interested I've been stirring the chopped onion + garlic into my protein shakes. If you use a strong flavour like cookies and cream you barely even taste them.

(((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))))
>implies (((journalists))) aren't against toxic testosterone

I was implying the exact opposite. Wtf. Put those echos on some other post. I'm /onionchad/

Newfag to this board. Whats this new onion meme thing?

idk but it makes jews mad so it has to be good

There are a couple of papers showing that onion juice caused a big increase in the testosterone levels of mice.

Does anyone know how I can put up some pdfs so that everyone can have access to the full papers?

how recent is this paper? did they prove that it only works with raw onions or is this just some wild guess of Veeky Forums?

We are trying everything that's humanly possible. Few people tried to inject it into their rectum, but failed miserably. Deleted thread though.

they first did it in 2009 and then followed up in 2014. They specifically used raw onion juice

Hail! Citizens of Onionistan!

Skin on or skin off, what’s the consensus lads?

in the papers they go skin off

Honestly I'm thinking France. All the decent conquerors either had it on their list or started from there.

Where should we invade?

I’m going to put the skins in a protein shake just to be sure

>Europe becomes Republic of Ogrania

israel

Zimbabwe

I smell weakness with them

i think we should retake Constantinople

Guys?

If you want allicin, eat garlic or take supplements.
Or just don't be stupid and fall for memes

Op needs to remember that testosterone can vary wildly across the day

for results that sembly anything you would need at LEAST 10 people.

Also, bloodwork should be taken in morning when test is highest, before eating anything

i mean this is more meant to be fun and funny than SUPER scientific but I want to do the best with what I can do.

How do you get your T checked? Do you just ask book an appointment with your GP saying you want it checked, dont you need a reason to give and how much does it cost?

UK here btw my doc doesnt even give blood tests unless you think you got diabetes or something and they dont give you the full bloodwork to look wt yourself

burger here

i think you CAN but im not sure if your insurance will cover it unless you have a reason. probably a better reason than "because of an onion meme"

Let's do this

Hello Onion Neophyte, Physiologist here.

Step 1) Measure a baseline.
Take measurements of blood test, body fat percentage, lean muscle mass, even a journal of how you feel each day.

Step 2) Work out a method.
Try and keep your variables as constant as possible throughout the trial. Measure how much onion you eat every day. Ideally this would be raw red onion, potentially in a salad/meal, about 1g/1kg of body mass. State how long you'll be trying this for. Also, DO NOT take roids, any new supplements, or any new exercise routines. You want to be carrying on as normal with the only change being onions.

Step 3) Record your measurements.
Daily seems like overkill, but a weekly measurement of fat percentage, muscle mass, mood (journal), and blood test levels if you can would all be great. You can then compare them to your pre-Onion data.

Report back to us with your data.
Ignore the Big Pharma shills, chewing parsley will cure your stank breath.

You have literally nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

>newfag here
This'll get you started

Checked

Daily reminder to anyone with legitimate worry about smell. Consumption of high amounts of chlorophyll seems to reduce or eliminate body odor. You should be eating your greens anyway but in case you aren't add a hefty portion of spinach to your daily onion to avoid smell

>chew parsley
Finally someone else is saying this. Thank you!

thanks guy

would a week be enough to establish a baseline?

If want to use parsley aswell this is perfect

it's a Chilean salad.

>Sliced onions
>Diced Tomatoes
>Parsley or Coriander
>Lemon/Lime juice
>Salt or Season with whatever you like

Goes with pretty much anything, you can put it in plain fucking rice and it tastes good and the lime juice takes away the sharpness of the onion without cooking it

reposting this from another thread since seems more relevant in this one.

Holy shit, I just realised I may have already done an onion experiment by accident.

>Did an 8 week PSMF about a year ago
>basically eat 800 calories of protein a day and low carb vegetables
>maybe 1-2 weeks into it I started to feel massive mental changes
>didn't wake up feeling tired anymore
>wanted to do more random exercise like go for walk when usually I just want to lay on the couch on my laptop
>I usually do 4 days a week at the gym and sometimes that's a struggle
>I added a 5th gym day of my own will because I wanted to
>enjoy socialising more
>have a lot more creative energy

Eventually it stopped after I started adding more calories back, but ever since then I've been trying to recreate that feeling. I tried low carb to see if it was the carbs, forcing myself to do a few walks to see if it was the increased activity, all kinds of shit. Nothing worked.

And now after reading all these fucking onion threads, I remember I was eating 1/2 to a whole onion every single day with my chicken breast because it meant I could add a bunch of taste for only 20-40 calories. After I started eating more (which was the same time I stopped feeling amazing) my onion consumption dropped dramatically since I had more variety in what I could eat.

Maybe it wasn't the onion but that was one pretty big difference that I never considered. Maybe this isn't a meme.

Also the onions were cooked, not raw.

Good suggestion but I already come from the European land of salads. No need for the advice.

The knights of catarina are retarded. what kind of faggot wants to wear an armor that makes you look morbidly obese???

Now we know why he was so based

>Doesn't know of Dark Souls
It's not the fat, it's the flabby musculature.

GODDAMMIT POL WE WERE ALMOST COZY BEFORE NYRFAGS GET THE FUCK OFF MY BOARD

If you haven't been eating raw onions regularly then I'd say so. You could take daily measurements if you wanted more rigorous data. Hell you could do morning, afternoon, evening, if you wanted to be thorough.
Because this is a preliminary study, I'd not make it too much work as there's a risk of burning out and not being able to finish the trial. If you can't get blood testosterone measurements (check for a kit online perhaps) then AT LEAST get fat% and lean muscle mass, and a journal of how you feel. Energy levels throughout the day, libido, motivation.

Your test will likely raise from having a consistent sleep schedule and diet. Follow the same routine without onions, record your biometrics, then add onions and continue your routine. Good luck

T. scientist

It's to surprise the enemy when you take it off

interesting concept
also probably gives more protection against stabbing in vulnerable spots

I think trying to strike it in general would be more difficult, it would deflect a lot of blows

the virgin ornstein < the chad smough

>he doesn't know vitamin C can block zinc absorption
>he doesn't know about copper deficiency from zinc supplementation

Kek
Yes goyim keep buying our supplements. It's totally doing more than making your owe expensive.

it blows my mind that in current day people legit prefer buying expensive supplements instead of paying extra for quality whole food that can safely fix your deficiencies.

Only thing that you should ever supplement is vitamin D perhaps but only if you dont get enough sunlight

Considering they increase test at all, how much
onions should i consume to see any results. Is one fist sized onion a day enough?