Testosterone levels increase by 45.7%. when men don't masturbate for 7 days

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Why aren't you on nofap?

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a) It’s known that short-term abstinence of 3 weeks can slightly increases testosterone levels in healthy human subjects, and one interesting study shows a significant 145% spike in T at the 7th day of abstinence (probably an evolutionary trigger to reproduce). However, long-term abstinence of 3 months has been shown to significantly reduce testosterone levels.
Short-term abstinence from ejaculations can slightly increase testosterone levels.
Long-term abstinence can reduce serum T.
Having an ejaculation does not acutely affect testosterone levels.
Ejaculating to the point of “sexual exhaustion” can make it harder for your body to utilize testosterone.
Masturbation doesn’t seem to affect testosterone levels in any significant manner.
Sex with a real person can boost testosterone levels significantly

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So jerking off every 7-8 days is optimal, not no-fap.

I don't fap as my gf tends to my needs, but just like sex it's relieving semen, so does sex also do this? The end result is the same to the body. Honest question.

Yes. Ejaculating kills your desire to seek out women, as the body is sexually fulfilled.

or so I'm told.

It doesn't have the same response. Conquering women increases T probably because it's real and your body knows it.

I guess it's similar working on a punch bag you won't have the same results as fighting someone for real. Or if you try tickle yourself it doesn't work. Your body is aware of such tricks.

No. The spike is an increase over baseline.

NoFap is more about conquering an addiction to porn and/or orgasm. It would be best to fap infrequently and never to porn after you experience NoFap for a bit.

There are benefits but be realistic about what to expect. You don't get superpowers like some claim. In my case, my focus and concentration increased. I feel clear-minded now. Improvements in the gym are happening and the wife and I are having sex at least once a week now.

If you're fapping daily, give it a try. It's only going to help.

>Moving goalposts

>So jerking off every 7-8 days is optimal, not no-fap.
no dont just jerk off. use that testosterone for something useful that's a big spike. Do you heavy days then or set some PRs and overexert yourself in whatever you do

why waste that 7 day buildup on 30 seconds of orgasm

Yeah, it spikes at 7 days, and then goes down again below baseline. so he's right, nofap isn't the answer

Has anyone found the full study? I want to see the numbers.

so what short if the study did not measure test levels exactly at the same time which they did not the increase is basically meaningless test fluctulates naturally up to 30% during the each day the increas can be result of this fluctulation

Nvm, this says it all :

"After the peak on
the 7th day, the level declined significantly on
the eighth day (q = 7. 206, P < 0.01). The
values of day 0 (see Table 1 ) reflect the testosterone
concentrations of the subjects (n = 14)
who had been abstinent for more than 8 days prior
to day 1. "

So no-fap beyond 8 days given NO benefits in terms of test, meaning to get another boost on day 14/15 you need to ejaculate on day 7/8. So for maximum area under the curve, ejaculation every 8th day should be optimal.

>Sex with a real person can boost testosterone levels significantly

Lolololololol

How about 8 days of abstinence, 2 days of fapping ranging from casual to sexual exhaustion to get out of the no-fap state, another 8 days of abstinence, 2 days of fapping, etc...

>Sex with a real person can boost testosterone levels significantly
I was about to completely give up on finding girls due to the insane amount of effort dating requires. But I think this is going to be my motivator to look harder.

8 days is not a long time of abstinense. If you need to fap till sexual exhaustion (which is almost impossible without porn, and i assume you're trying to sneak this loophole in to watch porn), you're not going to get any good benefits at all.
One fap a week, at maximum, and without porn. That's the golden ultimate rule. And that's only if you've tried like a month of nofap already and it did nothing.

>8 days is not a long time of abstinense.
That's the point isn't it?
If there's no benefit to T gains after the first 8 days, then surely it's better to reset and repeat.

I think that would work but remember that those two days might lower your test so much(just guessing) that area under the curve might decrease compared to just one day. The % increase is quite uninteresting, it's more about limiting vallies and maximizing peaks. So while I think 8/2 should work, 8/1 seems better, but who knows. I don't think it matters all that much but I will try 8/1 for a while and see.

all of nofap in one post. pasta this in all generals

im supposed to not jerk off AND not watch porn, right?

>28 volunteers

>the insane amount of effort dating requires
Jesus fuck it's 2017 you nigger girls are an app away.
When I was in college I actually had to be social to get girls. Now you can pick up girls (Not just tinder sluts) online easy. Picked up a couple on FB myself.

You know if this shit about significantly lowering test was true I should have tits and a dicklet from how much I masturbate. Instead my dick is thick and healthy, 3/4" longer than average.

You're not ejaculating testosterone, dingus

I was about to tell you that i am not interested in herpes ridden sluts but you had my attention at the FB part.
I am looking for long term shit and not for fuck and go relationship. What are some effective ways to do this? I tried dating different girls but all of them end up being completely shallow or complete whores and I just end the relationship before things get complicated. I NEED HIGH QUALITY GIRLS!!

>don't masturbate for 7 days
>7 days

No fap BTFO. No fap will literally shrink your dick and kill your libido.

During sex you release different hormones in your brain then when you fap alone in a dark room in front of you screen.

So I guess that's one of the differences, not to mention the actual socializing part where you have to score the girl, and to do that you have to talk to her and win her over.

>this shit again

>I need high quality girls!!

Then be a high quality guy you fucking retard

The female gender in general is shallow. 99% of girls are shallow. You need to increase your tolerance for the shallow part. Females have few quality interests and in general are not interested in self-improvement. If you want a gf, you need to accept that.
2. Do not compromise on the whores part for long-term relationship. They are OK for pump and dump. So, it's OK to date and fuck sluts as this improves your experience points. DO NOT FALL IN LOVE WITH THEM - this is very important. View them as damaged human beings and even if you feel sympathy for them, do not try to get into a relationship with them.

How to get with quality girls online: Minimum requirements: Be reasonably Veeky Forums, dress well and be well-employed/in higher education. So if you do not meet these criteria, work on them.
Quality girls are also looking for relationship material, sometimes they will find you and message you (happened to me, had a very nice short-term relationship out of it but then she had to move away).
Otherwise, you can message girls you meet on FB groups and shit whom you like, or even the ones you meet in real life and want to know. Just say, hi. If she replies, start a conversation. Take it from there. If she doesn't reply, rinse and repeat.

Uh well for starters punching bags don't punch back...

Do what I do.

I jerk it maybe once or twice a week depending on how horny I get and if I get laid or not.
No porn, I avoid looking at it as much as possible while still coming here.
I wank basically whenever I can't not. It gets to a point after three or four days when just the slightest arousal turns me into a slobbering beast. When that point comes I just rub one out in the shower, which is really fucking easy, have a great nut (amazing how much better it feels now) and take off that horny edge.

If I straight up try for one week it just gets unbearable after a few days. If I just fap to porn I end up very easily wanking 2-3 times everyday and my life and self-esteem totally fucking fall apart.
Just wank when you body tells you it is time to and not when you're bored and for the third time in a day.

whats wrong?

>tested on asian men

oops

that's not how it works, its disproportionate to actually get a high quality woman you need ridiculously high income and social status. Sex and relationships are tangentially related things, especially now

what the fuck was this guy trying to do.

>Why aren't you on nofap?
I didn't have a decent childhood or a father and I have no discipline.

Maybe if I had better genetics.

Because it's pseudoscientific bullshit
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2013/07/no-fap-more-like-no-fucking-way.html?zx=1998e8879819f700
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are.html
>chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/enough-already-sex-and-baddassery-are_07.html
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbation#Health_effects
>europeanurology.com/article/S0302-2838(16)00377-8/abstract/ejaculation-frequency-and-risk-of-prostate-cancer-updated-results-with-an-additional-decade-of-follow-up
>news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/researchers-say-frequent-ejaculation-could-save-mens-lives/news-story/dedd2ce2cb85c9cf6ff67f24c455dbe5
>webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20040406/frequent-ejaculation-prostate
>urology.jhu.edu/newsletter/prostate_cancer712.php
>frequenturinationinmenexplained.com/ejaculation-and-prostate-cancer/
>m.joe.endocrinology-journals.org/content/52/1/51.short
>answers.webmd.com/answers/5004889/what-nutrients-do-you-lose-when-ejaculating-or-masterbating-do-you-lose-testerone-
>healthtap.com/user_questions/1294935-how-long-does-your-body-take-to-replace-the-nutrients-lost-by-masturbation

i dont know, i did nofap and noporn for 6 months, and during that time i just had no sexual desire, i started fapping last week and im more horny now, in the gym today i had an erection looking at a girl

>Jesus fuck it's 2017 you nigger girls are an app away.
>When I was in college I actually had to be social to get girls. Now you can pick up girls (Not just tinder sluts) online easy. Picked up a couple on FB myself.
>>>
delet

daily reminder that despite public perception, millenials and gen z are actually having less sex, there is an uptick in virgin nerds and autistic women, I don't care if you believe me or not nigger look it up yourself if you want. but social media made people more superficial if anything, or more "choosy", to say it less pessimistically. I'm married so I don't care, I'm just saying

mfw masturbation needs to be cycled

Not joining the no fap, but I'm definitely going to cut back drastically. Found out over masturbation causes enlarged prostate, which is why I now have frequent urination. Hoping if I drop down to once a week. Thinking of getting some BPH OTC to maybe help things along.

>Jesus fuck it's 2017 you nigger girls are an app away.
Jesus fuck the girls still have to WANT to have sex with you over the 100s of other guys nigger nigger nigger