Discipline thread

Motivation lasts for a day, routine for a week, discipline forever

How do you develop self-discipline, and stop yourself from enjoying pic related behaviors?
How do you push yourself to study/work when you can afford to be lazy in a moment?

Getting up early, in oppose to sleeping
Working physically or mentally as oppose to getting sense of enjoyment from being lazy and watching shit/browsing chon

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I like to fast and then go to my favorite fast food places and watch people eat my favorite meals all while denying myself

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You just do it. There is no secret to discipline

I think willpower is pretty much like a muscle. The more you use it the stronger it gets. Anyway, how do you develop discipline?

Step by step. I don't think you can reasonably pull off a 180 from one day to another - you just have so many things to keep track of that you can't do it all at once. So instead, you ougth to do it step by step: first, start doing cold showers. Do that for a couple of months, till the point where it just becomes normal for you. Now this by itself isn't enough obviously, so you can add some things to it like idk, cutting down with sugar, etc - but you ought not to get overwhelmed. E.g. if you're an overweight couch potato you can't suddenly go to the gym 5 times a day, fix your complete diet, work more productively, fix your relationship, give up some addiction, etc etc.. you're probably going to get overwhelmed, and frankly, that's mostly because you DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

I mean if you know HOW to do exactly a couple of things, it's pretty easy. If you want to stop smoking, fapping, and stop drinking beers everyday, those are easily defined, easily measured parameters. I think you can do that from one day to another. But "fixing my relationship with my parents" or "getting fit" or even "eating healthy" is not so easy as most people have horrendous misconceptions about most of these things.

Thinking back, this isn't quite what OP meant but hey, it's somewhat related imo.

NoFap
NoPorn
NoChan
Cold Showers
1ROAD

True that some things you can go cold turkey, but that turning point we all faces, whether it is fapping the 10th day or smoking a cig, dropping out of cold shower meme is what separates success from failure
Knowing what to do, and what not to do on days like that is vital imo

what's the point of nofap?

Gotta enjoy things in moderation, both extremes can be awful.
This guy says he does this every Saturday, which could just be considered a day off.

>inb4 weed is degenerate
If it allows you to enjoy your life without ruining others' lives and you can keep it from seeping into other aspects of your life why not.

I treated my effort like it was a holocaust on fat. The main enemy was Kim Jong Un looking me. Food became an ally and the workouts were all out battle. Wars don't last days they last till you win or lose.

I also smoked marijuana before workouts. Treated each joint like a missile aimed at the fat or like a metabolism booster.

After reading op pic I hate myself even more

COMPETITION, FRIENDOS
>martial arts
>PL
>Oly
>Strongman
Nothing keeps you focused like a circled day on the calendar when you know you have to be at your best.

>1ROAD
what is this?

I do similar, I will walk down the sugary treat aisles and watch others take the treats I cant have.

You fix your shit
If you can’t educate yourself go do some military reserve stuff
Stop smoking

One raw onion a day ofcourse.Where have you been for the last week? Obv not gonna make it

It's like cold showers: you deny yourself something that cost you nothing and bring you pleasure. It is just a way to teach your mind it can work it out without indulging every other desire that comes to mind.

So, I'm confused, do you guys think anyone who smokes weed is a degenerate? Or just people like pic related (who we don't know enough about to judge honestly)?

Yea, I don't get it either. Guy has a bowl of cereal on Saturdays and this is somehow evidence that he's a piece of shit with no morals or discipline, holy fuck.

I think we know enough to make a rough judgement.
In this image, we see three vices, sugar, marijuana, and cigarettes. From this, we can reasonably infer this person is not physically fit. Smoking weed usually puts your productivity to zero for at least half a day, so we can probably assume this person spends at least half their Saturday zonked the fuck out watching cartoons.

Is this your idea of a motivated male?

Is this wild speculation really your idea of an argument?

Would be embarrassed to show up to any of those as I am now or even could be in 4 months.

Honestly it's the fact he's watching Rick & Morty. Nothing wrong with it but posting that you watch it on social media screams lazy, numale.

One day at a time. It's all about learning how to force yourself to do something you don't want to until that thing becomes habit.

That's it.

>keep it from seeping into other aspects of your life why not.

You're not wrong but most people can't. Even most of the people who make this argument.

I've been hating my body for nearly a decade, and ever since I started lifting, I found something to look forward to. Remembering how vulnerable and pathetic I would feel trying on clothes at stores or just looking down at myself when showering is more than enough to push me out to the gym.

t. 5' 3'' skinnyfat man with fat thighs

Sugar is not a vice. Sugar is not bad for you. IIFYM. You can work out while high. It's actually pretty fun. And munchies help if you're bulking. Cigarettes are not good though. So you're 1/3.

>Smoking weed usually puts your productivity to zero for at least half a day
Confirmed for having never used pot. A typical high only lasts about three hours (for smoking/vaping.. the high from edibles lasts longer). And you can get shit done while high, it just makes doing it more fun.

nigger i grow weed and even i tink the dude in OPs pic is a lazy cunt

I keep missing class because I oversleep and can't force myself to get out of bed.
>tfw can't tell if depressed or just lazy
I know I should just do it but why do I feel exhausted and motivation less all the time? Has anyone been through this and beat it? I need advice mates desu

Because he watches a cartoon and eats a bowl of cereal on the weekend?

All i have to do is ask the man in the mirror if he approves of what im doing

use your brain man, do you really think that somebody so proud of his childishness limits it all to one morning per week? That he's proud of his vices and wants validation for them-- a better part of his brain knows he's doing something wrong, so he posts it on reddit so that he can be assured by strangers that he should be happy about it at the very least. Or that he's not alone, and therefore he can't be blamed for treating himself like shit.

I had the same problem last year. I had fucking ridiculously early classes sometimes and would skip a ton because I just stopped caring, it may be light depression as hypersomnia is a symptom, try getting to bed earlier, and look for a better alarm, maybe try putting the phone out of reach (across the room or something) My old solution was to use my PC as an alarm as I had to climb out of my blankets and to the desk to shut it up.

either way this should help you getting up earlier!

I had this because i was stressed and mildly depressed from relationship troubles, and a job where I was just screamed at and mocked 24/7 so I lost a ton of confidence and shit. I have it back now and realize the boss was just a cock head so I've moved on, but all in all user, try putting the alarm out of reach, and maybe look into a gradual alarm, I found one that would track data on my sleep and then wait until I was in a sleep cycle peak to just lift me out of sleep, it was extremely pleasant to wake up to and never failed to wake me, I think the app was sleep cycle.

Any habits you have by the way user, staying up late, using devices right up to bed, ect? these can effect sleep.

>tfw I feel nothing from the mirror
>not even the feeling of fixing up my hair
The guy who said working out will help your confidence and shit was a fucking hack. Now all I have is a habit of going to the gym almost everyday

Do you not have an inner voice that lets you know when youre doing something wrong?

This is good advice user thanks. I have a lot of bad habits like staying up late and drinking a lot of vodka but back when I was a chef doing 70+ hours I could still get my ass to work for 7am. Now I'm doing far easier hours but I can't motivate to get up for my 11am lectures let alone my 9am ones. maybe it is the lack of routine or pressure which I had before but it still doesn't explain why I need a minimum of 12 hours sleep not to feel tired all day. I am thinking of going to the doctors but I don't wanna be put on depression meds because I hear bad things about them

mirin progress bro
but consider what said
smoking is shit and you know it

Actually mindfulness meditation has been shown to be almost as effective as clinical therapy for depression and anxiety. Try some of that if it helps. And yeah the best idea is to MAKE yourself need to get up, theres a reason those little "Shoot a target' or "catch the helicopter" alarm clocks work its because once you're out of bed its easier to stay out. Using a normal alarm I had the pattern to snooze it down so well I literally did it in my sleep.

So big things for waking up are getting to bed at a good time. Try to relax and get yourself out of using devices before bed and to get on a schedule, the human body is made to follow a schedule.

nice poem, saved it to my phone to read again

NoFap is idiotic. NoPorn is what it should be called.

5'4 here man. Good news is that gainz come easy and fast. Going to the gym is at least a good hobby.

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Inner voice is a bit more habitual, like hey, have we done that? If yes, okay, if no, maybe we should. Would it be good for you? What do we have to gain from that?

But it feels like its missing something that is usually added in by talking to other people. It feels like the voice inside is incomplete, but I don't have any idea how it should be other than its not really there.

Saw a psych once too, told me I'm depressed. Waved it off since inner voice is like, there is nothing to gain from this. Never got a second session with her since I had better things to do with my time.

This right here.
Denying yourself sexual pleasure, even if it's self induced, can lead to a lack of motivation or concentration.
Think back when you were a horny teenager who couldn't sit still. You really want to go through that again?

But don't look at porn or hentai. Use your head, loser.

That picture makes me mad as hell

>So big things for waking up are getting to bed at a good time
Butting in, I've also found this to be true.
It's far easier to get up at a specific time if failing to do so means I miss something I've planned to do (and cannot reschedule)

On days with schedules, I'll easily stick to 8 hours clean sleep, whereas weekends easily turn into 8 hours delayed sleep followed by 4 hours of tossing and turning.
Ironically, best sleep I ever got was during the summer holidays when trying 18 hours awake followed by 8 hours of sleep - even woke up on time without an alarm.
For obvious reasons, such a sleep schedule isn't very practical for daily life.

This
>pic related

Yeah I had that a bit too! where I would wake up before my alarm and be up in time to shut it off while making breakfast

this

i just do it. its like controlling a character in a video game, it does what i tell it to do

Sugar is pretty fucking bad for you constantly. Its a treat, not a daily ritual. Also smoking anything is shit for your lungs. Edibles are the healthiest way to get high. And, some people do get fucking wonked out for half a day from a little weed.

>sugar is bad
I don't get why this is the case. You just shouldn't eat sugar all the time when you are an inactive person. I drink chocolate milk pre and during workout which amounts to up to 100g of sugar right there. I also sometimes consume sugar when I have to be mentally very active.

As long as you need it I don't see how it is bad. I don't have diabetes or any other problems in spite of consuming so much sugar.

>Edibles are the healthiest way to get high.
Vaping is fine too and the high doesn't last as long so your whole day isn't shot.

People just buy into this dumb Taubes pseudoscience about fructose being a toxin because they are too lazy and dumb to do research.

If you do this once a week there is literally nothing wrong with it. You need that break from improving yourself. You need that night a month to go rage with bros.

One thing that helps me is to pronounce it (at least to myself) as "disciprine" (like in that one South Park episode.)

If I want to eat the thing I shouldn't eat, or whatever, I just tell myself that I need to have more disciprine. That usually does the trick.

>You need that break from improving yourself. You need that night a month to go rage with bros.
No you don't. I never take drugs including alc and cigs and I am doing perfectly fine without them. Key to success is consistency. Every time you break from your consistency you take a huge step back.

You don't have to be miserable all the time either and if you are you are doing it wrong. You need to be practical, not waste too much effort on the wrong things and then compensate with self harming activities.

I disagree.
You can take a break from being productive or improving yourself without it being useless.

It's okay to go out and get drunk once in a month, you'll be able to meet new people or improve your social skills.
It's okay to go watch a movie or go shopping by yourself, you can learn something interesting from that movie or try to improve your style by going clothes shopping.

It's not okay to stuff your face with sugar or pizza or get high and spend the whole day watching dumb cartoons. There's nothing of value in doing that.

>dumb cartoons
Sub 200 IQ spotted.

>Key to success is consistency.
And what makes you an effort in success? Seriously, having some time for yourself is not self-harming.

recently I noticed I was starting to fap every day.
edging for hours until boredom compelled me to do something else with my life, but it was easy to go back to.
I'd been watching fitness vids (athlean-x) too and after a motivational rant from a friend via skype, I started to exercise when I felt horny.
It's worked well, and even through I've not really kept up the exercise, I'm not wasting all my time (or any really) fapping away.

See this vid for more info
youtube.com/watch?v=pADaCLqhP1E

200mg + caffeine to stay focused.

plan your shit. What to do, when to eat, when to sleep.

Stay with routine. Keep going at it. Failure is part of the game. Just fucking don't give up.

You could also buy a calender, and then cross everyday when you've succesfully followed your routine thro. Great way to see your progress. your goal then is then to create a chain of crossed days. Then never break the chain.

Nietzsche argues that both addicts and complete abstainers have a similar kind of weakness, though he thinks addicts are worse.

I like how the main character actually has a neckbeard. The cartoon is funny because it's true.

200 mg L-theanine*

Every time you climb back on the wagon after falling off, you'll get better at doing it next time. I've not missed a training day is years now, maybe 5 years

why hentai tho?

porn is jewish, japanese erotic cartoons are not, why should I quit it?

>be 21 yo, have gf, study at great uni, great internship on the way
>stable family, great physique, lean at the same time as massive
>natty, speak 4 different languages
>once a week go to nhentai and nut 10 hours straight to the most degenerate shit in there including, but not limited to, incest, bestiality, forced anal bestial feminization, reverse scat swinging and ffm futa threesome

>nut 10 hours straight

OP's picture talks all that shit about catoons, junk food, and smoking, but doesn't even so much as ALLUDE to the pipes and weed.

Fucking dropped.

No, but it helps to keep the pace going.
Skelly here, I've gotten Veeky Forums before - took about 4 months each time, of dedication and hard work.
But each time, at some point after, I'd stall or hesitate and let the routine slip.
"One more day off won't hurt"
Then a week has gone by.
Then two.
And I've only been to the gym once, if that.
Too late, I've not been mindful enough to keep things going and slide back into being the spooky skellington I have been most of my life.

Pasta. Pretty sure I've seen it before, Mr Bond.

What usually helps me is telling myself that I will do whatever I want to accomplish for only one more day and then I can quit.

Similarly if I'm trying to get work done, I'll set the slightest of goals. It's a lot easier pressing on once you've started that to be anxious about whether you will or not.

This helps me both push myself to improve and not to beat myself up if I slip up.

T. Dopamine addict

To all the other "HES JUST WATCHING TV AND EATING CEREAL, HES NOT LAZY!!!", Faggots here, I'll say this

Your all queer bait and should die. You should be on the internet 30 minutes top each day. Your day should consist of physical labour, working out, reading, practicing arts and skills and eating non shit food. If you have any vices, your not only a submissive cuck to your own ID, your a weak little pussy and should be hung upside down by his little micro dick. Fuck yea! 14/88

not pasta at all

I'm a real pervert, but under control as long as I have my nips to draw for me

Practice noticing when what you are doing is aligned with your conscience.

The shitty part is that it's really hard.

The nice part is that you become more powerful for every tiny step in the right direction.

I think that was implicit when he said smoking, but yeah I thought it was a little strange there was no explicit mention of that.

>that one ultra triggered numale itt who can't stop sperging because someone made fun of his cartoon

Weed isn't really unhealthy in any way though. Smoking anything is probably not ideal but weed doesn't have the same carcinogens as tobacco smoke.

>reading kant
fuck off and read hegel

>the high only last x hours which means the side affects can't

you need to fucking kys

Depends in the person and the strain. I'm usually very productive while high, but after it wears off I'm fucking tired.

Super productive 2 hours though

>Veeky Forums

>One raw onion a day
why not 2?

confirmed for having shit weed. smoke a joint and be stoned for half a day, as you will be having another 2 hours later.
i think weed is like whisky, nothing wrong with one after dinner every so often. but if you are having a whisky at breakfast, you need to get a grip

>no yolks or animal fats

bye bye test

It might sound dumb, but watching inspirational videos and reading up on redpill ideologies motivate me a lot because it tells me I can be a better person but the only one who can make me a better person is me. Also stuff like your pic motivate me because I tell myself I’ll never stoop that low. Godspeed user

>Nochan

Is this bait?

>post nochan on Veeky Forums

>using self-denial to avoid gross shit instead of receonditioning yourself to detest it
ngmi

>if the Rodge made it