Just be confident, bro

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trips confirm

you are either coping hard or you were always good looking and havent experienced it first hand. i was an ungroomed, ugly skeleton a few years ago and you are invisible to women as an ugly man. now that i take care of my appearance it has gotten bittersweet. you just realise that looks is everything to women and thats the only thing that matters to them. you can be a good looking autist and they will still stare at you and try talking to you (the autism becomes "cute" to them instead of creepy).

Why do people just blame porn for everything lol. It’s about as stupid as blaming gaming for gun violence.

But women rate like 80% of men as a 5 or below. It's impossible to get a girl in my league when girls that are 6's can get 9's easily.

you are actually wrong or you're in highschool. I know good looking dudes who are awkward who get no pussy. Im good looking yet still need to put a little bit of effort in to get laid. Its not like they just pile on to me, even though they will make the first move alot of the time.

>that looks is everything to women and thats the only thing that matters to them
I cannot believe how off the mark you are. If anything, this could be said about men, not women

yeah virgins on here dont understand stuff like they think they do

>I know this one case that contradicts you
Fuck's sake dude, and I know a really smart female black programmer, doesn't make it a regular occurrence.

In general, women do care about looks and have high standards. We all know exceptions.

No, women don't care about looks and don't have high standards. You just don't know how women signal their availability or how to signal interest.

racemixers will be killed first

>Hey bro, I hear you lift to get girls. Should I start lifting too? Give it to me straight, bro

Lift my cock with your tongue brah.

Yes. Everyone should lift

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I bet you never try or have a bad personality... There are always girls in your league that will date you

A man's looks are largely determined by the amount of effort he puts in appearing confident, looking groomed but not too groomed, looking well dressed but not too tryhard and generally having a personal sense of style.

A woman's looks are generally determined by genetics.

I say that as an 8/10 man who often looks like shit in every other regard but genetics.

>A woman's looks are generally determined by genetics.
how do people reach this level of delusion? is home-schooling an epidemic or something? fuck sakes

If you think you are ugly, chances are you aren't nearly as ugly as you think you are. All you need to regain some confidence and change your perception of your own attractiveness is some positive feedback and you can get that by being more receptive to the signals other people are sending you. This will massively change the way people perceive you, too.

>Don't be confident bro

There you go OP now mount the world

>just bee urself :^)
>that doesn't work
>well fuck you you're not doing it right then

Make up your minds

be the version of yourself you wish you were yesterday but didn't have time for today

his face is way to fucking close

Its not outside the realm of possibilities to score a girl outside your league if your personality and social skills are decent. Girls like guys that show effort in pursuing them. Not stalker level effort but.. Medium I guess effort lol. I usually aim a couple points above what I consider myself to be (6-7) and have had decent luck with most of them.

You have to be the best version of yourself. Not the sick fuck who jerks off 4 times a day to pictures of girls getting fucked by dogs.

>personality and social skills are decent
more like exceptional, and not for the reasons of actually getting a date

when/if you enter a relationship with them, you have to have a very strong head on your shoulder otherwise you're going to constantly be reminded of how subpar you are on the beauty scale compared to them, and what good are you? you're going to be a meme couple until one of you snaps

no matter how you slice it, for the average 6/7 guy it's not a comfortable arrangement at all, so kudos

I have rather moderate success with women, but all of the women I have had sex with or ended up dating were far more attractive than I am. I think getting with my first girlfriend who was arguably way out of my league was kind of the key moment for me. It made me realize that it is entirely possible for me, or an average guy in general, to get attractive women. When I meet hot women their attractiveness doesn't intimidate me, because I have been with equally attractive women before. It impresses them, because they usually expect a guy like me to put them on a pedestal or treat them differently than other women, so I stand out in that regard.

lol what, where the fuck do you live? this reads like a LARP pick-up-artist post

in the real world, 'average' guys can get models for girlfriends within reason, but the foundation is rocky from the start and it will lead to nothing but 'yeah i fucked that hot bitch'

there was a study on perceived attractiveness and relationship success:
pdfs.semanticscholar.org/198f/21f4a1c11594ff56da8e2d18b1ba624a76b9.pdf

check it out, or you can keep typing random antidote evidence and hope you can meme it into existence

Porn starts hitting people young and fucking up their psychological development of intimacy. It also can cause a bad cycle in the reward center of the brain to form, like a drug. You can see more naked women in a day than some men could see in their entire life 40 years ago. Just because you might not suffer doesn't mean it doesn't exist idiot.

Wow, it's like being generically handsome attracts shallow women. Who knew? Charisma can make up for a lot of shit regardless.

>shallow women
>i'm uglier than my SO but i still think i can maintain a relationship with her
it's not that i'm mad at you, it's that i'm disappointed you're setting yourself up for constant pain & stress that shouldn't be there otherwise

I don't buy into any of the PUA shit. Other than my body I'm arguably well below average if I'm brutally honest (some rather nasty flaws I need to get fixed) and I still pull, because I don't let it get to me, whether you believe it or not. I don't know exactly what you mean with relationship success, but I guess if that's supposed to mean something like "chances that the relationship will last" I don't disagree that there is a correlation. If it just means being able to attract more attractive mates I think it is just more challenging.

You come off as a huge buzzkill dude, I'd drop the negativity and also disregard what women think, you're letting yourself get played when you should be playing. That is why a Chad is called a player. Sounds like you're still ugly on the inside. Unironically learn some pick up artistry, many of those dudes are nerds or are mentally disturbed/deviant and still slay plenty of pussy. This guy here has fucked more woman than you will in your life probably and he looks like a Ben Kingsley cosplayer.

i hear ya, yeah i could see it as challenging fun for an average guy with the right mindset to try to get above-average GFs, but if you're looking for anything serious or long-term, it's not a good idea and may make it harder for you to 'settle' once you're looking for that

all in all, the best advice you can give to the average joe is to find a girl within his level, it's far more satisfying for both in the long-term

So you're saying you don't know how to keep a woman satisfied or something? Been with gf for three years and she worries I'll leave her. Learn how to handle a woman's psychology, but I'll warn you it is very irrational. You will need to get into arguments, be somewhat manipulative, control what is called the "frame" of the relationship. Never had a problem gettting girls, always long term relationships if I deem her worthy and very easy to rebound, but I grew up with many sisters in the household so maybe it comes naturally to me. Getting guys' respect is more important and more beneficial anyways, that's what I'm focusing on more now.

No wonder you can't keep a relationship when you think that black and white about superficial things. You could just be attracted to shitty women which I think many guys overlook too.

i'm glad a attraction scale gap relationship or whatever you want to call it is working out for you, it doesn't for most

that's why it's important to speak in generalizations and not pay attention to the outliers

what i wouldn't do, in your position, is go type messages of your exploits in the public eye as you're potentially going to setup young men to try to live as you do, which is not going to work out for most

you don't know anything of my past or current relationships, and i have nothing to prove to you

again, there was a well documented study on this very subject that you can indulge yourself in:
pdfs.semanticscholar.org/198f/21f4a1c11594ff56da8e2d18b1ba624a76b9.pdf

what you post is random "it worked for me so everyone should be me", and there's no way for anyone to validate those claims even

I know plenty of dudes who date girls above their leagues because many woman have poor self-image issues and think their league is lower than it is.

k i'm wrong, everyone go out and fuck models while being far below their perceived attraction

have fun! peace

>just make this thread again bro

You can only do so much to make yourself not ugly on the outside but being ugly on the inside isnt helping

>don't try something potentially beneficial because it's better to do nothing than get your hopes up
Is this really how you think? Any advice is meant to be taken with a grain of salt. It works for me because I tried and failed plenty when I was younger, it hurts me to see you stuck like this. I'm wouldn't even consider myself good looking.

>date people on the same level =/= do nothing
>beneficial =/= having a hotter SO
it's NOT beneficial to date above your personal attraction, it's only more effort for the person who's uglier, and life is far more complicated than hoping you keep your attraction to your mate

the way you speak is out of a book to be quite honest with you, and i'm going to call bullshit on your posts/stories, you are making shit up because you're bitter of your current situation; take that with a grain of salt

>outliers
>perceived attraction
>using scales
>pulling out studies
looks fade anyways, learn to redflag the personality. That will determine your compatiblity more than anything.

you guys are really struggling grasping this: it has nothing to do with your charisma, or your personality-- it's the psychological effects that are inbound once you start falling and engaging with a person who is above you in attraction; this is NOT memes, love does not work the way it does in your animes

>more effort on the person who's uglier
In what way? Having to work out more, staying groomed, etc. If anything my S/O does more work to stay hot than I do, I just lift for the health benefits but I wouldn't say I'm handsome or anything. What I consider hot may not be hot to you so I don't get why you bother with numbers and scales. Things like charm, charisma, building social value, perception, can be learned and changed, and will have a huge impact on your quality of perceived attractiveness. Only genetics can't be changed, but that isn't an absolute is what I'm saying. Stay salty my friend.

>anons it's this WAY because of studies
>treating psychology like it's an exact science when attraction is subjective
>despite numerous people saying otherwise from their own experiences
okay

what? who said anything about not working out or grooming yourself so you can date lower, that has nothing to do with literally ANYTHING we've talked about... you should do these things regardless of where you stand

stay salty? why would i be salty of whatever you have, which i don't care either way; because i can't validate anything you've said HOWEVER i can guarantee your intelligence is blow average, and that's only something to be grateful for with our little tidbit here

lol, fuck me dude, i honestly don't know why i come here

its really hard, from personal experience social media and their friends are the worst part. Every weekend and every night they aren't with you're on pins and needles because of the way hot people socialize.

Niki cheated on his wife after his accident.

This guy is not handsome, by the way.