>tfw zero friends >can't hold a conversation for more than 30 seconds >tfw can't think of anything more than one word responses to people (yes, no, okay) >have no friends, and no gf >don't even know what I'd talk about if i asked a male coworker to grab a drink with me (with my intention to make a friend) >don't know what I'd talk to a grill about on a date (if a girl would even agree to going on one with me) >have nothing to talk about, all i do in my free time is lift and sit in front of my computer (browsing the web, watching movies, playing video games) what do?
how do i get social skills?
help Veeky Forums, i juat want a social circle and a gf ;_;
Jace Perry
alcohol
Kayden Cook
Are you at least fit? Have you sorted yourself the fuck out?
Lincoln Price
Go vegan and get a vegan gf.
Jack Perez
doesn't help too much for me tbqh
i am Veeky Forums, I've cleaned my room
if i did, where do i even find one?
Carson Jones
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Caleb Torres
Git gud.
Parker Ward
Body pic?
Isaiah Ross
Vegfests, the internet, whole foods etc. Something like 80% of vegans are women.
Lincoln Edwards
Ask advice, this has nothing to do with fitness.
Oliver Wright
Post a pic of your body.
Parker Ortiz
sell your soul to the internet.
iv'e got friends i wouldn't trust any of them
Jacob Smith
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Cooper Lopez
This fucking guy is making these kinds of threads several times a week on fit. Always the same kind of text and pictures of girls and he always ignores any advice.
Landon Wright
the silent killer
Hudson Perry
what are those
Wyatt Barnes
>wants friends >doesn't deserve them Improve your life first, famalam. Get off the fucking internet and find reasons to live. If you've got nothing to offer a friendship, not even interesting thoughts, you will not make friends. Also not Veeky Forums go suck somewhere else
Aaron Evans
Nice shoes
Jeremiah Thompson
I'm in the same boat my man. Phenibut has helped me a LOT. I take it 1-2 times a week and the days I take it, I can actually socialize with people. It's great for learning social skills because it gives you a bit of confidence and makes talking with people seem less intimidating (at least in my experience with it). Check it out, I highly recommend it.
Nathaniel Brooks
I've changed 4 dudes from weebs to actually getting pussy so have some faith.
This breaks down into two things:
Inner game: Which will be 99% handled by reading and applying the book "The Six Pillars of Self-Esteem". You'll also pick up extras from TRP and RSD. Unlike the outergame material, you cannot overdo this. Read and reflect as much as you want. It can only help.
Outer game: Which will consist of you watching small bits of RSD youtube channels and reading singular posts of the red pill subreddit at a time and then going out and applying what you've learned. Do not binge watch/read. You will overwhelm yourself and give yourself anxiety. If you think you're different, you are wrong. Everyone thinks they are but they're all wrong. I was wrong when I though that. My teacher and his teacher made the same mistake. Don't fuck up like us. Learn a concept and then get 2 weeks of experience before you watch another video.
Samuel Butler
Really irresponsible to reccomend gaba drug to someone looking to cope with anxiety. Phenibut isnt worhwhile as an emergency med because it is so slow acting, ans most ppl online take way too much.
I bet you dose a gram at a time... its way too much. You qouldnt reccomend xanax or ativan so why do you reccomend other gaba agonists? Forum people like you have made phenibut so popular, it was only ever meant for short term everyday use to deal with traumatic situations and excess stress which would otherwise hinder normal life...
Its just not right to tell people prone to gaba issues to take gaba deugs outside of handling acute panic events. Gaba receptor downtegulation is alot more long term than even what an opioid addict suffers from after taking morphine or heroin etc.
Fwiw, you should be able to get by on occasional 250mg phenibut as part of a holistic overall approach to dealing with anxiety. The fact you only have good days while on phenibut is really telling.
You talk about learning social skills but to me that screams use justification. What the fuck social skills do you learn on phenibut that you sont already know unless you are a turbo autist.
Jeremiah Brooks
Rattle Rattle
Leo Roberts
I have awful social anxiety and the days where I take phenibut it's nearly non-existant, and I can temporarily leave turbo-autist mode. I genuinely enjoy life on the drug because I can actually talk to and connect with people. And you're not wrong, I usually dose 2-2.5g. Maybe it's not the best to use instead of just "getting over the anxiety" (lol) but I'll keep using it as long as it keeps working. It makes life too fucking good mayne.
Nathaniel Moore
>don't know what I'd talk to a grill about on a date "you're hot, lets fug" "bb pls"
Logan Hughes
all very good, but will someone tell me who she is?
Aaron Robinson
That's honestly fine desu. Most normies barely have like one or two hobbies. I talked to my chad friend the other day, and he says all he does is lift and does a sport, he says he is bored when he stays home. I overhear a lot of normie conversations when i sit alone at lunch, its mostly talking about tv shows, school, or gossip. Lifting is great, pick up a sport if you are intersted in anything, or maybe join an oly/pl/strongman gym if you want to be serious about lifting, and you are set. You say you watch films, just watch some films normies like and there you go. The real thing, which i mainly stuggle with, is just getting yourself out there
Jason Cruz
YOU NEED TO BULK UP BRUH, C'MON
Gabriel Hall
oh the cringe
Adam Perez
As someone who was in your position, all I can say is if you put yourself out there and keep going you can make it. Iv'e lost over a hundred pounds, lost my virginity to a beautiful girl and have a small circle of good friends, I learned to skate and my comfort flirting with girls gets better everyday.
Tyler Long
This
Kevin Green
its pretty interesting, i work with some people who are near my age (im mid 20s, they are like early 30s, some girls and guys) and at lunch pretty much all they do is browse their phones even when eating with each other and talking about work and showing each other internet stuff or gossiping
i mean i guess it makes me feel better that normal people arent all these people i think of who are out partying all the time and shit, but then again they are early 30s so when they were my age they probably were doing that
Adrian Gutierrez
Everything you've said is me. Except maybe that I've never had a gf.
Age? I'm 22, so its even worse in my case.
Kayden Gray
>the red pill
Fuck on outta here with that bullshit
Jacob Cox
>I overhear a lot of normie conversations when i sit alone at lunch damn son...
Austin Parker
Drink moar.
Tyler Bailey
what
John Morales
yea i know, i am a sad person.
i have made no friends in school and am alone there. also i never really liked talking about myself, it feels nice learning about other people.
Cameron Watson
OP here, I've never had a gf either
>tfw 32 year old khv
Blake Jenkins
it wont get better just fyi
believ eme
Juan Cruz
well yea
Kevin Cook
do you like politics? join a group you agree with...like minded people, lots of weirdos
John Long
vegan gf with a fat ass all i want in this world
Eli Collins
we all know this someone pretending to be OP just for the laughs, right?
Aiden Flores
oh and have you been in my position? what have you tried? anxiety is an issue for me, although my main issue is my mode of transportation is the train and commute to school, i dont have a car. even if i wanted to hang out with people it would be really difficult.
Wyatt Adams
>tfw hang out all summer with qt that is a big friend of my gf >she has a bf but just parties every single day >we usually go with her >they dance >I dont know how to dance/clubbing >sit like a pimp while they dance with each other >have guys asking me if theyre my gfs >"ye" >always get high fives and hugs
kek, but seriously how the fuck do I dance without looking like a retard
Josiah Bennett
Fucking hell, makes me feel better at least. Keep working out though man, from the way you look it seems you got a bit to go. Either way, don't focus on other things and focus on self improvement.
Logan Hill
>>sit like a pimp while they dance with each other >>have guys asking me if theyre my gfs >>"ye" kek. what's the pimp sit look like?
Jose King
>although my main issue is my mode of transportation is the train and commute to school, i dont have a car. even if i wanted to hang out with people it would be really difficult. no it's not. Your main issue is your autism. I don't know what to tell you, because i'm in a somewhat similar situation.
It wont get better, it will get even worse, once you become more self conscious and the bitterness sets in.
Zachary Reyes
>from the way you look it seems you got a bit to go. That guy is not OP, you fucking retard. seeand >32 khv >thinking any self-improvement meme will ever help him
Justin Rivera
basically manspreading with your arms all equally open on the chair(those with a place for your arms, forgot the name in english) with your button shirt with less one button than usual so your chest shows up a bit more, dont forget the properly rolled up sleeves to also show off forearms gains basically like mcgregor dresses up
Samuel Nguyen
> things that never happened
Grayson Jackson
not everyone is ugly and dyel i've "made it" long time ago but this place is like a close friend and I enjoy reading the sucessful stories of fellow fitizens
Jason Nelson
>PUA faggotry no
Jacob Taylor
>Most normies barely have like one or two hobbies. most don't have any user
Christian Cruz
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Grayson Hughes
Does being a Dark Souls enemy pay well?
Gabriel King
how did u put urself out there user?
Nolan Morgan
OP here, this is not me and i did not make the post
but look at the replies, why would i post a pic of my body? it won't help my social skills
Eli Bell
see
Cooper Ward
Ahh i see, my mistake.
You got anger issues huh brother.
Justin Sanchez
Marfans?
Gabriel Rivera
stop idolizing pictures and videos of women for one. its fucking with your opinion of women and probably lowering your self esteem as well. stop watching porn is hopefully obvious. try talking to people on omegle if you arent ready to fully put yourself outthere
Liam Diaz
lol its not hard to talk to people dude
Wyatt Price
haha this, just be yourself idiot
Ethan Reyes
The whole "putting yourself out there" thing is common sense, but for someone in my position it i so difficult to do. I'm pretty much OP down to a T at 26. When you get to a certain point, putting yourself out there doesn't work because you have autism and loser ingrained into your entire being and people can obviously see it from you
Like for me I don't even stay a mute around people or anything, I talk to coworkers and such. I can make people laugh easily, all that. But I'm just too weird ugly and autistic for people to want to hang around with me, and if I try to not be talking and be "chill" I just look like an even bigger autist and people ask if I'm sick because i look angry/quiet. And then because people don't want to hang out, I don't have stuff to do, so i don't have things to add to conversations, or have places to invite people, so the cycle continues.
Liam Russell
Jack Skellington?
Asher Rogers
Who wore it best?
Ethan Cooper
kek
Nolan Ross
Unironicaly look for scientific papers on women behavior. Study that shit nigga. But always keep a back up plan
Aiden Barnes
Tfw can converse for 2 hours and more. Sometimes I need to be stopped, cuz I feel bad for the other person.
Who here properly socialised as a child?
Lucas Bell
i wasnt, im an only child
Leo Bennett
I'm sorry, honestly that's child abuse. Did you have friends at least growing up?
Jonathan Jenkins
whats child abuse?
Julian Carter
fuck man that cuts deep.
I tried putting myself out there and spaghetti just falls from my pockets. i know I'm somewhat fit, maybe slightly heavy but nothing that is debilitating. I have zero game, i don't drink because i'm an alcoholic, and have zero texting game so tinder is shit. i'm in school now but haven't really met anyone worth dating.
i'm honestly thinking about suicide. i'm 29 and have to stay with my mom in order to save for a house so i can maybe move out mid thirties. just what happens when you are asked to leave your apt when your landlords father has cancer. so socially i'm screwed too. i have a day job and go to school 3/4ths time so I have zero life really. good thing is i have the gi bill so i am not drowning in loans. i wonder a lot what happens when you die and figure as long as it strikes the brain stem it can't be too bad.
Elijah Anderson
Listen to some joe Rogan podcast. Pretty good case study on conversation and will even give you more than just 1 thing to talk about. Take up a hobby or you are boring and have nothing to talk about. And if you really do have trouble talking then just ask them qhestions, try not to make it feel like an interview.
John Thompson
Not this.
You’re not in a movie, alcohol may lower your awkwardness by it also lowers inhibitions and you can wind up acting like a dickhead.
Learn how to socialise normally before you start adding alcohol.
Joshua Rodriguez
Not who you responded to but i shit you not it helped me. Just as long as you apply it conceptually and don't use scripts outside of maybe the opener
Robert Anderson
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Thomas Kelly
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Blake Cox
Did you work yourself up to 2.5 g or did you start off big? I usually take maximum 750mg and it doesn't really live up to what I read about the effects of it. Of course everybody reacts different but is the key to do big amounts or at least was it for you?
Jayden Clark
>don't even know what I'd talk about if i asked a male coworker to grab a drink with me (with my intention to make a friend) What do you like? Video games? A genre of movies? Music? If you live in England start watching football and talk ahout that, usa basketball I guess. Talk about something random until he brings up something else he wants to talk about and then talk about that its easy man
Aiden Collins
I started off with 500mg and noticed subtle effects. Then I increased to 750mg and noticed them amplified a bit. From there I kept going up because my tolerance started increasing, and I needed more to feel the same effects. I take it too often so I need higher doses. Ideally you take it no more than 1x a week so your tolerance doesn't increase. Fucking kek
Ayden Watson
Can you explain more about this drug? You seem to know your shit and are somewhat responsible
Is this drug gonna leave holes in your brain like the antipsychotics that crazy homicidals take? Does it give ok more estrogen? Basically what are the pros and cons of this medicine?
I've had anxiety and panic disorder for 7 yrs, and this past yr has been a VERY difficult time in my life, and im constantly over anxious and have panic attacks of varying degrees almost everyday or every other day
But I don't want to get hooked on benzos like clonazapam and the like
I've been on/off citalopram for 7 yrs and the first few yrs were good/ok on it and it was a night/day switch when I was on it, my family could immediately tell, and everything just seemed easier, happiness and appreciation for life just came naturally, and I wasn't very anxious all the time, but the past couple yrs I barely notice when I'm on it, and I don't feel that amazing zest of life that it originally gave me
And I'm naturally very outgoing when I'm in a good mood and when I'm sad/depressed or ultra lonely I'm super introverted, so I like to think of myself as the most introverted extrovert, and the most extroverted introvert
So Im curious about this drug, apparently you say it's gained popularity but I've never heard of it till now
Ryder Gonzalez
This is why I come to Veeky Forums. Excellent bait.
Liam Roberts
Just B.E. yourself
Owen Martinez
Serious question please, i hope i can get any decent reply from any of you specially from 30+ years posters.
How can i get a girl like the OP pic? when i saw this pic for first time 3 minutes ago, a torrent of magic and happiness and also sadness are totally go throw me body
happiness for imagine how my life with be with her
and also sadness because it will never happend
Im 30 yo with a gf from 8 years ago, and i would instantantly drop her for someone like pic related, all gfs i had where very normal or ugly, not like pic related, i cant stop thinking im how much happy i would be if i am with someone like that
but how ? hot can i get a girl like that?
im a average person in every aspect, height, face, body, the average guy with a normal job,
what are the requeriments for get that girl?
im very sorry for my english
Carter Gonzalez
It's kinda pathetic to care so much about her just because she looks good and has a dozen people that are paid to make her look as good as possible every day. It's great to have a normal looking gf that cares about you. Pretty soon the model's looks will begin to fade and all that's left will be a banshee without any self confidence, skill or emotional maturity.
Connor Hughes
Take your autism to the next level and become a stoic kuudere
Robert Diaz
>How can i get a girl like the OP pic? You would need IRL photoshop.
>As for the rest of your post wow you sure are shallow.
Thomas Cooper
>Im 30 yo with a gf from 8 years ago, and i would instantantly drop her for someone like pic related I unironically think you should kill yourself my friend.
Carter Young
be yourself
Jace White
thanks for the suggestions
Liam Fisher
you're 30?? fucking idiot
Bentley Adams
A personality can be a learned skill. To a certain degree everyone is “acting” and eventually the act becomes who you are. Also, people can smell insecurity...The thing that helped me a lot is to just stop caring about what others think when I put myself out there. There will be awkward exchanges but you learn from those and get better at interacting with others. And pretend to be confident. More often than not people can’t tell you’re pretending. Are you sure you’ve tried everything user? Suicide is not the way to go...can’t help you on the ugly, but personality and confidence go a long way. I am Pretty ugly myself but have a cute wife and 2 kids.
Robert Moore
you say little cuz you know little. Do you know those type of people that can strike a convo with anyone,that are always making people laugh,that got tons of friends? everyone is different but there is two things that they all have,no matter what : Full Confidence/top tier self steem and experience/knowlegde.
Daniel Walker
how can i get both of those? especially experience/knowledge?
Easton Walker
Am I the only one who thought of Dark Crystal upon looking at this chick's face?
Cooper Morales
confidence comes first,little by little you will start to talk more,and other people will talk to you more,you will go out,see shit,experience things,you will add more words to your vocabulary,will have stories to tell,etc. As long as you have things that keep you down you will NEVER be a confident person. ej : "im a manlet" "my skin looks like shit" "i dont want to show my teeth" etc,GET RID OF YOUR INSECURITIES AND YOU WILL BE A CONFIDENT PERSON
Samuel Cox
Literally this. You can only learn by experience. Also people love eye contact and a smile. It honestly goes such a long way and once the other person warms up a little it makes conversation so much easier. Confidence trumps all.
Jayden Gonzalez
It aint just about social skills. These wont help if you've got nothing else beside lifting and internet.
Read books. Watch movies. Get into philosophy. Travel a bit. Strike up conversation with strangers. Why not get yourself interested in art too ?
Live a full life for fucks sake. You've got no imagination man.