Lotus looked better than 95% of this board at age 16 with only body-weight training.
Ten years later he doesn't look that much different and pulls 7pl8 sub 200lbs.
Also post natty limit and transformations.
Gavin Hall
If you think that guy is natty you're on drugs.
Luis Harris
he posted his blood work results on Veeky Forums he's natty
Wyatt Cruz
LOL
Camden Lopez
Bloodwork means basically nothing when the guy gets to choose when to take the test/knows in advance when it'll happen. Big fucking Ramy passes drug tests under those conditions.
Christopher Allen
>he doesn't look that much different are we looking at the same picture?
Isaiah Diaz
>falling for the fake natty meme
Cameron Diaz
He took the test after a cycling accident when bloodwork was required...
Jason Cruz
>tfw aesthetic but weak 1/x/2.5/3
I don’t do barbell bench because it’s a bad exercise for aesthetics. I do hypertrophy work 90% of the time and increase the weights slowly. So far it’s worked for me but I do wonder what I would look like if I did a strength routine for some months and hit 225/315/405.
Jacob Torres
How tall are you bro
Jason Ward
Yeah, sure.
Man, Americans are so fucking stupid.
Jayden Fisher
Do you do any ab work?
Justin Collins
lotus is canadian. also he posted pictures of the accident and the law shit. he is natty man, just has 0.0001% genetics
Henry Walker
These are my lifts after doing SL for like 7 months but I look like shit
Whats your routine and height/weight?
Henry Jackson
He's also been working out for over a decade and puts a fuckton of work in.
Mason Stewart
lifting for 3 years natty vs working out for 10 years natty makes like a 10% difference max assuming the 3 years were not wasted doing machine brosplit or something I know you have to continue lifting and see for yourself because you won't believe me, though
Benjamin Russell
lol
Jaxson Nelson
Who the fuck cares about some disgusting, steroid abusing nigger?
Justin Sanchez
You do apparently.
Angel Moore
Give up and resort to being a cuckboy for men with superior genetics then OP. Then when you lived out your purpose , I'll allow you to end your pathetic existence
Cameron Clark
>Man, Americans are so fucking stupid.
Jacob Mitchell
I'll never understand why Veeky Forums can't fathom the idea of outliers. Mention you have test in the 1300 range and they think it's bullshit even if it's barely above average
Alexander Martin
Sour grapes. Add in the bias from the average racist poster.
Jeremiah Bailey
5’9” 155. I can’t bulk bc I’m terrible at eating. I recomp and gain year round
Just squats. I don’t isolate them.
Luke Rogers
>I'll never understand why Veeky Forums can't fathom the idea of outliers. Mention you have test in the 1300 range and they think it's bullshit even if it's barely above average Probably because 1300 isn't just barely above average, it's barely above the extreme end of the bell curve. Barely above average would be around 675 or so.
While I'm sure 1300 level outliers do exist totally natty, it's not as common as you make it out to be. Look at pic related and then realize 500 to 600 represents the center of the curve. Several deviations to the right, you'll see 1154 ng/dl at the extreme end of the distribution. Then realize that 1300 is another standard deviation beyond the extreme end. A test level of 1300 is like an IQ of 175; most modern IQ tests only go up to 160 or 161 because scores above that are so rare. In either case, you're the one percent of the one percent.