Is it effective to do /nofap/ without dropping porn? I've basically been doing nofap since about mid-November, started because of problems with sexual anxiety, which was giving me trouble with getting hard even when I wanted to fuck, which I figured was due at least in part to jerking off too much as opposed to just fucking. I could tell I literally just felt "more comfortable" fapping by myself, porn or no porn, than sex or whatever else with another person, even my girl. Basically made the rule to myself that "Now the only way I get to cum is with my girl" since the main thing I am trying to overcome with nofap is sexual anxiety. Thing is, I have still been looking at porn pretty regularly, browsing it on my phone or whatever, and apparently just have good enough willpower not to give in and fap, my general idea being I'll just channel that horniness towards fucking or whatever else with my girl. I feel like its been helping, but should I drop porn altogether for better results? What's the verdict on /nofap/ but still looking at porn?
/nofap/ but not /noporn/?
nofap is a meme
it's ok to fap once a week, porn is the root of all problems
Well, I think my personal problem was kind of rooted in fapping. Like I said, I was more comfortable fapping than I was doing something with another person at a point, and I didn't really have problems fapping getting hard without porn, although I looked at a lot of it. That's why I decided to go cold turkey on fapping.
>What's the verdict on /nofap/ but still looking at porn?
The jury finds you retarded.
It's not possible to do NoFap with looking at porn. Go ahead and try
its the other way around, you want to keep fapping but quit porn, the porn addiction is what fucks people up, fapping is just the biproduct. look up the mental side effects of a porn addiction, people took this and labeled it nofap and spread around misinformation and created a generation of fucking retards calling themselves fapstronauts or some shit
Its literally what I've managed to do so far, like I explicitly said. The thing is, I have a girlfriend and CAN get laid regularly, so its not like I can't get off at all, I'm not so /nosex/ monk mode autist, I'm doing it because I want to stop fapping instead of fucking. If I just couldn't cum at all, I would have caved to from looking at porn, without a doubt.
Thanks for the answer man. This is getting a bit more at what I was asking. My situation is a bit unique to a lot of other /nofap/ anons, I think. I see tons of /noporn/ but not /nofap/ stuff and what people generally say about that, but was wondering what user thought about the opposite, especially considering my situation.
Day 12 here. I am seriously considering hiring an escort. This is a terrible idea, isn't it?
No, man, you don't need to. Hit a bar with a good friend of yours as a wingman and just talk to chicks. You can score for practically free that way, plus, it's better because you fucking earned it. Escorts are simply paid to pretend to like you and don't actually care for you.
Literally the worst of both worlds.
the purpose of hiring an escort in this case would be for shear carnal reasons...Is that like using another human to fap?
What do you need porn for if you're not masterbating?
Don't watch porn. You're still feeding your brain dopamine when watching it.
thats the literal opposite of what you should do, fuckhead.
no because you're getting sex. I think you missed the whole point of nofap
is 2d porn better, worse, or as bad as 3d porn?
How long until I'm completely cured? Like two weeks?
I did nofap but with porn once. Edged pretty much 4 days straight.
I had VERY weird dreams
worse
and I know you're talking about loli user.. there's no need to hide it
I was thinking more weird tentacle shit. Why is it worse?
I could only imagine it being worse.
One reason why men blame porn for their dysfunction is their desensitization to sex. Porn sets an expectations that real life sex cannot fulfill. With doujin or eroge, etc, you can dive into deeper expectations that cannot be filled in reality
Porn is what makes you fucked, its almost a drug for some people.
fapping is healthy in the right amounts
I'd imagine that not looking at literal, physical, women would make things better.
Nofap is just a way to cut it off cold turkey. Until you feel like you've recovered
>I jerk off to inanimate drawings and somehow this makes me better with real women
This is full retard mode. Hell some people fap but still do noporn because porn fucks your mind up
>I have still been looking at porn pretty regularly, browsing it on my phone or whatever, and apparently just have good enough willpower not to give in and fap
You have shitty willpower if you can't stop yourself from watching porn.
In terms of being less degenerate, no. But is it better for my brain chemistry?
Which one is the hardest to get rid of ? Pick that one.
why are you looking at porn without fapping? I can understand /noporn/ and not /nofap/ but the other way around solves no problems and creates more.
i do no porn but not nofap and have had similar effects from when i did nofap.
boi once i get fucking "ripped" and be able to get pussy basically on demand you know i'm never touching my dick again, masturbation/porn won't be on my mind again.
but for now, my hand will do since i'm still a twig.
Guys, I started nofap two Wednesdays ago, I ended up breaking it on Saturday but I didn't use porn. I almost broke it again tonight but I was looking at porn and noticed it does almost nothing for me. I'm not aroused by any of it anymore.
What is happening?
No porn is life changing. It's fucking hard at first but gets easier. No Fap is fucking stupid - just jack off in the shower one or two times a week so you don't go insane.
happened to me too, i realized how fake it is and it's meant for horny losers with no sex life and I didn't want to be one of them.
also most pornstars are thots and i despise them.
depends on when u started beating your dick to porn.
Were you beating off to porn when you were going through puberty? It'll take longer
Do you have social skills to get women attracted to you? It'll definetly take longer if you cant get laid because you aren't learning how to perform normal (vanilla) human sex and its hard to not to relapse when your sexually frustrated.
But its worth it man, no fap forces you out of your depression coma/ comfort zone. you get motivated to take on challenges. Nothing in life worth doing is easy, challenge yourself and try to get your dopamine from something besides pornhub.
Reset for me after 17 days.
Im gonna do this shit for at least 90 days the 2nd try. I couldnt sleep because i took a caffeine pill for my workout and fapped 3 times to calm down. God damn stupid of me.
Is it fine to just edge without cumming?
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