Why is selling the organs of deceased family members as inheritance not a thing?

I think you make a fair point, the organs go to people in need, and the money goes to the families. Although Organ are donated are they not? Noone receives money from this unless its on the black market?

Thats why im asking biz, im curious why this is not a thing. Why are you so butthurt when someone is eager to learn? It makes sense logically for everyone.

It probably is a sin. Apparently the organs maintain some kind of consciousness of their previous owners, apparently they are not just ‘parts’ that can be interchanged in any which way.

We are not just a physical existence, and neither are our organs.

IT doesn't. You need to read more.

silly goy
he thinks the organs are not harvested at the morgue by big pharma themselfs before the burial
silly silly goy

> Although Organ are donated are they not?
Hence the lack of donors. People are wired for incentives. Why the fuck would i donate my organ and go through the hassle of doing any type of paperworks aside from the feel-good feeling? There needs to be financial incentives.

Isn't it obvious this whole western culture worships the flesh it would take a real break in the psyche to cause the masses to start selling organs.

why would they pay you when they don't have to, lol. morons

>he thinks the organs are not harvested at the morgue by big pharma themselfs before the burial
And the family doesnt receive shit. Only people in the black market makes any profit. Tell me again why it makes sense for the current system prohibiting family members to receive the profit of organ selling to continue?

>why would they pay you when they don't have to, lol. morons
Then have fun with the lack of organ donors. A lot of people die because of lack of donors. Why would anyone donate aside from the feel-good effect of charity?

>Isn't it obvious this whole western culture worships the flesh it would take a real break in the psyche to cause the masses to start selling organs.
Which makes no fucking sense logically. Especially given that a lot of people die waiting for organs do be donated. Its a win-win for both parties if assuming everything legal is implemented and enacted strictly.

China is 10 steps ahead of you user.
Prisoners? More like organ farm.

Normies get too upset to care about organ money though.

Trump should have left the basketball americans there to get their organs farmed

In my country (Uruguay) your organs go for donation automatically (unless you ask them no to because of your religion or some bullshit)

Nothing about the economy has to "make sense" just accept this life is just a meaningless game and move on.

Most people who die are old and decrepit

Wouldn't it be better if instead of the government receiving all of the money from your family members organs, that it went to you instead? You're allowing the government to essentially make half a million dollars off of your dead family member, while you're stuck with burial costs, debt passed on, inheritance (if there is any) tax, dealing with insurance company if you have one for the payout, etc.

Have you heard of public healthcare?

yeah, youre right. everything is better kept in the hands of a centralized government instead of its people. Autonomy blows.

as a doctor let me explain some aspects why an organ should be donated and not sold

in many cases, someone needs an organ as a life saving tool - either theyve damanged it from an accident, were born with a genetic disease, or other factors have caused it to not be as functional as yours or mine

the organ needs to go through pathology, through a myriad of lab tests
in many cases emergency surgery needs to be set up, doctors and a myriad of assistance staff need to be involved/mobilised, the organ needs to be transported and flown to location etc etc.

In a public healthcare system this is already costing +++

the pt now has to also be on a myriad of anti-rejection drugs and other stuff, regular clinic appts etc to make sure the organ works well. since it usually is emergency surgery from a willing donor, i'm not sure if its able to be matched biochemically to its donor (ie. HLA matching) so theres always the very real risk of rejection etc.

theres so many factors already that make organ transplanting such a blown up cost in itself, why would you try and make it worse for the parties involved? the governments not making money, its LOSING money trying to make people live.

in a privatised healthsystem im sure it pans out differently (likely for worse for those without $$$)

but hey, now you see why this is such a bad idea for those involved. I understand you wanna make some money though, but see whats actually involved hey - you dont wish to be on the other hand of this, especially not if now you're needing to foot the extra bill of the donor organ

I hate states as much as everyone on this site (at least) but not because of the healthcare it provides. I opt to use private healthcare but I've used the pu lic service in the past and I'm glad it exists.

ooohhh this is fucking interesting. thanks for the info user. so it all boils down to the government losing money?

Do you think money is more important than human life?
That is extremely fucked up, we all know money isnt shit

>Do you think money is more important than human life?
No i believe in freedom in choosing who gets to benefit from my organs

Because all the perverse incentives will be there.
And here is how it will realistically go down - relatives pressuring people dying people who are healthy enough to donate to die faster by withholding care, etc...

We should be aiming for artificially grown organs anyway, these stop gap solutions only take money away from funding the real solution.

in a real 1st world country, unlike the shitty US, organ donations are mandatory if you do not explicitly choose to refuse.

So when you drop dead out of the blue and were healthy as it gets, your organs will be harvested.

I know socialism is like the pest to you guys. But with this method, these countries have an enormous rate of transplants compared to other countries. And transplants go all across borders. For europe, this means that if your country is doing organ donation mandatory, you have the possibility to receive organs from all other european countries which are participating in the same manner. This results in a reduced waste of good organs and an increased transplant rate, because there is always a receiver who fits.

That sounds like you value money mlre than human life
>benefit

Yeah, government is losing money to the private industry getting all of that done. If it was private to begin with then those costs wouldn't be so inflated to make themselves more money. As for your "Oh no poor people will have a harder time" argument, don't you think more and more organs would be on the market if everyone who died had a trustee to sell their organs, thus lowering prices and increasing access to it? Putting it into the hands of the state allows their friends companies to make money, takes money literally out of your family and friends bodies, and has you pay for it via taxes. Yeah, sounds real fuckin' legit.

>shitty us
>mandatory organ donation in your country
>state can take your organs and sell them, but you can't
good komrade, good to see Europe still bows down to its masters as easily as ever.

So what if I do? There are hundreds of millions of people in this world right now who are killing to be in a position those living in the USA and modern countries are in. I'm supposed to just feel bad and give them my space, comfort, security, and wealth just because theyre people? I don't feed stray dogs on the street I'm not going to feed a person either. They are autonomous creatures that are capable of making their own lot in life. They'd love to benefit off of me and my countries affluence, but the idea of me profiting off of them is "bad"? Go fuck yourself. You're so superior for disenfranchising yourself to build up inferior beings? Keep doing it and soon you'll find yourself amongst them. Keep sharing that bread and water man, it'll really make a difference.

Because when you die your organs become worthless almost immediately.
For your organs to be worth anything you need to be alive.

What value does money add to my life?
>security
>comfort
>influence
>superfluous luxuries

What value do people add to my life?
>performing the tasks which they are given bread crumbs to do

That's it. If people weren't so fucking shitty and only doing things to gain their own little sphere of power and control in this world I'd have no problem helping them. It isn't the case though. They're simply using you as a means of increasing their own lot in life. You're using them as a means of feeling better about yourself, at the expense of decreasing your lot in life. Hope those "feels" are nice, because that's the only return you're going to be seeing on that investment. Don't worry, they'll come back for more and you can "feel" even better then giving them more of your shit.

Daily reminder that Jews are not allowed to donate organs, that's why Israel has the world wide biggest market of illegal "gifted" organs.

Please stop killing american celebrities OP!

Yes because kidneys metabolize alcohol.

ugh
you're so narrow minded in wanting to make money you just lose all sense of rationality and reason.

the private industry isnt getting all of that done. the government is. often these costs are so inflated because private MAKES it inflated and charge exorbitant prices to do stuff - not all the time mind you.

no, i dont think more and more organs would be on the market. its a reply requiring more than a small text box, but no this is not as simple as you think it is

organs are a time-sensitive matter, and often aren't viable in every single case of death. you can't just use a 90 year old's heart, you can't use a young person's heart which has been damaged in a motor vehicle accident, you can't use an old kidney which is already in renal failure/affected by years of diabetes etc etc.

more organs would be on the market if more people signed up to be organ donors.

I believe you're currently healthy, because you wouldn't be saying if you had ANY medical problem at all. fucks sake

are you one of the 70+% americans who don't have a passport? fuck me you're a jaded little spoilt fuck aren't you. just because you were born into the privilege of growing up in a 1st world country doesn't give you any step up in power.

people usurping and benefitting off 'your country's affluence'? go fuck yourself you're probably just a parasite who can't get a good job and you're screaming 'dey took muh jerbs!' cos some other hard working SOB managed to put in more hours and effort than you to get there.

jimmies rustled, but topkeks anyway

People eat animal organs all the time. Nothing happens to them.

I actually would do this, how can I do it in the northeast US? I want to start a business.

Imagine having your kidney taken out and the buyer wasn't legit? That would suck balls.

Ohiofag here, also kind of curious about this