Bulk or Cut

Hey, posted this yesterday but didn't really get any responses.

So I'm at this awkward point where I'm fat enough to have a gut and just puffy fat around the body, but not muscular enough to be able to show off anything if I slimmed down another 20 lbs.

I got p fucking sick in feb, was basically out of commission all month, lost a lot of strength.

Lifts are as follows:
Squat 3x5 195 lbs
OHP 3x5 85 lbs
Chin Ups 5x3
Bench 3x5 125 lbs
Barbell Rows 3x5 105 lbs
Deadlift 1x5 220 lbs

I used to be able to about 20 lbs more per lift, but the sickness really fucked me up.

Doing Phrak's GSLP. Eating at 2750 but thinking of bumping it to 3k. Sick of being weak but also sick of being overweight.

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I would probably cut and lean bulk with small cut cycles for a couple of years.

Well, are your lifts still going up 5lbs for upper, 10lbs for lower?

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I'm not doing SS rip, so no.

Up my weights 5lbs whenever I hit 3x5. Deload when I don't. I'd do 2.5 for upper body but don't have those plates at my gym.

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holy shit fuck off and stop spamming your shitty faggot room

Fine, whatever. My point is, are your lifts consistently going up session by session? You're still fresh enough that you could probably deal with 10/5 increases.

just filter it

As I said, I'm upping it 5 lbs per session where I can. I was almost at 2pl8 before I got sick but had to deload. Now I'm almost 25 lbs behind.

Everything else is progressing alright. I don't think I'm strong enough to do 10 lb per session, I'm already lifting over my bodyweight ffs.

and besides, the progression wasn't really my question.

>Where I can
Does this mean EVERY session?

It doesn't. It means if I hit 3x5, it goes up. If I fail a set, I deload and go back up.

It's fucking GSLP, it's not SS.

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Not him but when doing SS do you have to add weight everytime even though you didn't manage to finish the sets?

No. Failing means staying at the weight and trying again or deloading.

Die nigger

>HURR DURR IT'S NOT SS
Okay, listen to me.

If you're not making consistent progress EVERY session as a beginner you're either not pushing yourself or you're not eating enough.

If you are seeing your 2.5/5lbs increase (Buy the fucking micro weights, you idiot. Bring them to the gym.) EVERY SESSION then there is no problem. Continue lifting and eating the same. If you are not seeing the progress, eat more and examine your form.

>BUT user-SAN, I AM GAINING WEIGHT AND I WANT TO BE KAWAII FOR ALL THE MEN AT THE GYM

No, shut the fuck up. You're obviously very new to lifting, if you start cutting now you're simply going to be reducing your ability to make rapid beginner gains while also being generally miserable, hungry, and weak.

>TL:DR;
Eat more. Lift more weight. Cut when you actually have muscles.

Kek

At the same point as the op. Similar lifts, etc.
Not sure if I should keep growing or focus on cutting.

Not really sure what the progression has to do with it though.

If you didn't finish a set, you deload.

Did you do SS? Im doing it at the moment and when it comes to eating im still a bit unsure. In the book it says to eat a minimum of 3600Kcals but are the calories really that important if you get enough protein?

>No, shut the fuck up. You're obviously very new to lifting
>you should be adding 10 lbs to your squat every session even when you're hitting 2pl8
>what, you can't add 10 lbs when you are at 3 pl8? What are you, not trying hard enough?

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Yes, calories are that important. Keep in mind that the book and program are tailored for those just seeking raw strength gains as a beginner. If you do eat that much and you do do the lifts, you will get strong quickly.

>WHY AREN'T YOU PROGRESSING
that wasn't the question
>LISTEN FAGGOT PROGRESS
that's not what I asked
>HUR DURR FAGGOT
not what I fucking asked

None of your answers have any relevance to what I asked.

>Please look at my skinny fat body
>I don't even bench 1pl
>I'm following this beginner routine

Like, are you fucking stupid senpai? He COULD be adding 10lbs to his squat and deadlift.

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>Keep in mind that the book and program are tailored for those just seeking raw strength gains as a beginner.
Yeah, thats what i want. Just thought i could do it with enough protein a day without caring too much about total calories but i feel like im stalling too often so im gonna bulk up now. Thanks for the advice m8.

So, what is your question? You never actually asked one. Or is this just BLOGPOST with user?

what's the title of the thread you fucking retard?

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Nah, protein helps with repair but you have to be eating at a surplus to gain mass.

Good point.

You should bulk. Probably with more calories because you're not making consistent progress and you're at a level where you should be making consistent progress.

Thanks, christ. Maybe next time read a little before ranting for 10 posts about something totally unrelated.

I haven't had much progress with 2750 so I'm gonna bump it to 3k.

Senpai, I told you right fucking here

I even put it in a TL:DR so it would be simple.

sorry it's a little hard to tell by the 7 lines of ranting and calling me an idiot and assumptions.

instead of actually answering or talking about what I asked, including info I had in the OP.

Christ man.

You are an idiot. You're responding to the tone of messages on a gay porn actor memorial board rather than actually reading responses to your question.

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oh sorry friendo let me just sift through your retarded responses to find the single nugget of information

Not trying to be a meanie here, but you don't look like you lift all. You need more volume and intensity

Is there anything wrong with just continuing the program I'm on? I already get volume due to the AMRAP sets when I can, though it's getting heavy enough that I really can't do it on stuff like squats and deadlifts.

No keep bulking and getting stronger. You're wasting your time if you cut. You're barely even average in terms of strength why would you waste months cutting. Rhetorical.
Also you won't lose gains in a month unless you lost actual muscle because you were malnourished from a month long fever or something very serious. Doubt that happened but I digress.

So buckle up bucko and prepare to get a some chunk with your muscle and have some bloody confidence.

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>Also you won't lose gains in a month unless you lost actual muscle because you were malnourished from a month long fever or something very serious
I got sick with fever and shit due to some sort of infection. Doctor's weren't 100% sure what it was. Gave me 10 days of antibiotics which I had like every side effect of. Basically couldn't eat anything without getting nauseous and was sedentary every single day and couldn't sleep. Wasn't working out during this either. Constant diarrhea also didn't help.

I would say it's safe to assume I at-least lost a little bit.

No, there really isn't anything wrong with it. You simply need to lift more weight.

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>Is there anything wrong with just continuing the program I'm on?

Yeah that program is honestly really bad if you're lifting to look good. I would abandon it asap. You need a program with more volume (4 sets of 5-13 reps), and more exercises

why is it bad? Why are you recommending hypertrophy at this point?

>Is there anything wrong with just continuing the program I'm on?

Yeah that program is honestly really bad if you're lifting to look good. I would abandon it asap. You need a program with more volume (4 sets of 5-13 reps), and more exercises

It's bad because you probably spend like 30 minutes at the gym with this routine and it only features like 6 different exercises. For aesthetic, you need more volume and variety

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Fucking hell, I'm retarded. I've been on GSLP for about a month and a half as well now and I just realized I've been doing it wrong. I've not been progressing until I hit 10 reps for the final set, and when I do I've only been moving up by 2.5lbs/5lbs. Oh well, I'm still at babby tier weight anyway and have been hitting 10 for the AMRAP on every lift except The Press™ up until now anyway. I suck complete ass at The Press™ and have been stuck at the bar for a while now trying to hit 10 reps. Glad I realized I can move on.

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oh god people still fall for the volume meme. What next, for aesthetics people need joe weiders protein powder too?

Picrelated is me and I say he needs more volume and variety

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Would you say GSLP but 3x5, then 1xF, and upper body accessories is sufficient?

m8 plz

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How much volume we talking?

I don't know. This sounds like bullshit to me.
Unless there is a surge of people going from only being able to bench the bar to going to 200lbs, just off a hypertrophy, then I'll see. But you didn't develop a big chest without benching a lot and I just don't think you get there with hypertrophy.

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>no way could he have posted the same picture on Veeky Forums more than once

>also on other boards
>clearly from some guys vacation album
>believing someone who says "your routine sucks" without giving any actual advice

>How much volume we talking?
3 x 5 for compound lifts is ok, though it wouldn't hurt to do 4 sets or even 5 if feel like it

But the main concern about your routine is it lacks isolations. As an example, there is a triceps machine at my gym that absolutely annihilates them, way more than any barbell/dumbell exercise I can think of. Just try to add more stuff, you should be spending like 1h30 at the gym, not 20-30mins like your program. The lifts in your programs are good, but there is room for so much more

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You know, I'm happy I'm fat at times, cause if I had a body like the first pic, considering the gay shit I jack off to, I'd probably go full mental sickness and start trapping.

fox and grapes

you're not wrong, though it's probably for the better anyway

If you are lifting for girls just ask yourself a question, what would they prefer?

a skinnyfat dude that becomes chubby and then cuts into otter/ripped, staying fat most of the process
or
a skinnyfat dude that cuts into skinny and then clean bulks up to otter/ripped, staying slim Veeky Forums
mode most of the process?

That's a nice location for a village.

Just switch to a PPL my dude.

Kys fatty

You need to cut a good 20 pounds, buy a tailors tape and do the navy seal bodyfat test. You wanna be 10% at the most. I can tell you’re in this to look good so listen to what I’m about to say. Cut now because cutting even at your bodyfat levels is gonna take long and the longer it takes the harder it is. Nowadays I never go above 13% bodyfat because it is everything when it comes to looking good. Staying lean and making gains slowly is the best way to do things if your goals are aesthetics.

Most beginner routines are fucking awful. Building a strength base is the biggest meme known to mankind. If you wanna look good then do a PPL and don’t waste time on shit routines that just get your stronger on big lifts, in fact it doesn’t even do a great job at that. Once a week is fine, I actually make better gains once a week than when I was doing PPL twice a week but that’s probably individual based. Still progressing steadily and dumbells are amazing. My right arm finally caught up to my left arm using them. The only thing I’d say use the barbell for are leg exercises.

Strength routines are dumb, only do them if you wanna compete in powerlifting. Even bodybuilding routines are great for muscle and strength.

can i git aesthetics with 3x per week

Yea. I got every other day and it actually works better than 6 times a week PPL. It optimized recovery provided you get sufficient volume.

Kek

>ppl
>still progressing
>right arm finally caught up to left arm
so you've been lifting for 3 months?

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you look like fuckin dogshit i think this is just a /mentallyillpostingforattention/ like a lot of shit i see on this board. here's your /you/ retard.

thats why you start your workout with a heavy compound like bench and do the corresponding hypertrophy work after ya dingus

>mentallyillpostingforattention

wut

I look like you but I'm 6'1 and 198 pounds. Is it good or bad?