How bad is porn?

I've been trying to quit for 4 years but I always relapse, 23 never had a gf.

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Really bad

I would like to know too.

I went through a period of noporn and limited fapping and I can say it made average women way more fuckable.

you dont have a gf because youre ugly

not because of porn

Porn isn't to blame for you not having a girlfriend. Stuff like being awkward around girls, a complete sperg, not actually socializing or looking for girls and instead only hanging out at home or with other guys and as someone else mentioned being fugly and poor at the same time have more to do with it. Most girls don't give a flying fuck if you consume porn as long as you are desirable in terms of looks or wealth.

Try nofap as well

Use your spare time to lift

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You'll get a gf one day, user. Porn isn't the problem though. Either you're extremely socially awkward or you just aren't around the right girls.
t. Have had 3

I remember that this guy is very misogynistic.

pretty much this

it hurts, but is the truth

no fap is made for people like you.
Don't fap, no porn, if you're horny then go lift or go out and socialize in areas with lot's of females.

its a bit of both. more because of the ugliness for sure tho

Truth without trips

yeah but the theory is that when you consume porn in excess you're not really going to spend the time and energy trying to improve yourself in order to acquire a gf. you'll just remain stagnant in your room playing fucking league of legends or something and going to the gym every other day.

read this user
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You will probably get a girlfriend within 2 weeks of nofap.

Vanilla "I want to see attractive people naked and comfortable" porn is harmless.


You get into harder shit, it hampers up your imagination, your ability to be in the moment with an actual partner.

Chronic masturbation/porn when you aren't actually horny is kind of the problem. Do the "Intermittent Nofap" meme and try to cut down to just once a week and adjust from there.

porn is a vice like any other.
It's a simple response to a complex problem. Great for short term, impulsive pleasure but bad for anything beyond that.

unironically porn has make me appreciate girls more and in the end gotten me laid. when i was younger i always dreamed of the model like girls, because the only body part of a female that i've ever seen was a face, so i always used to dream about the prettiest girls in the class. when i started watching porn at first i watched the mainstream videos because they are the most popular but i quickly found them fake and plastic, i started looking for more natural, amateur clips and then i realized how beautiful the imperfect average female body is and how it makes me much more horny than a female face. since that time i actually started pursuing the average girls, especially slightly more round ones with bigger brests and have never looked back

ATTENTION INCELS

This is the real reason why you suck with women:

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Women are just as visually attracted to men as men are to women, and if women don't find you visually attractive, its not your lack of 'confidence', its not because you jack off, its because you aren't physically attractive enough.

psa confidence also means attractiveness

so women arent lying

i mean physical attractiveness

>le no gf because ugly meme

I’m a part time model, I do work mostly for department stores, and no, I don’t look like of of those weird alien male models. I’m in decent (semi-ottermode) shape. I’m also a 25 year old kissless virgin. I’m not a failure with women because of my looks, I’m a failure with women because I’m a clinically depressed friendless shutin autist who is addicted to porn and thus I rarely interact with females, and when I do, they often show interest but I don’t know what to do with them so I’ll just go home and masturbate and then forget about them.

the doors open then, you just need to walk in

do people including women notice you?

Disagree somewhat.

Had the following experiences:

>Losing my v card at 20
>Getting first gf
>Getting every gf I've had since then (now 26, a few LTR's later including one now)
>Almost every time getting laid in-between

ALL happened after at least a week or two minimum of nofap. I'm tall and attractive, but whenever I've been feeding the addiction, it's so much easier to come up with more reasons not to bother than to go for it with women. Every time I've stopped fapping and tipped the motivation balance toward "Okay yeah I really do need to get after this and stop putting it off to vague future-hopes", I've made things happen.

It's possible that someone like OP is just ugly and unlikable, but it's just as possible that he genuinely hasn't tried hard enough because of the porn.

Sauce?

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