Is it really true that sedentary people loading testosterone still get mad gains?
I remember seeing a pic floating around here about some study that compares people roiding and training vs roiding and not training and gains were very similar.
Is it really true that sedentary people loading testosterone still get mad gains?
Jack Brooks
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Liam Barnes
I'll bet he meditates so hard, his brain has a pump.
Ryan Lopez
yes
Jason Barnes
He's actually just a roid-filled athlete who went to a temple for some days.
Isaac Nelson
You could literally find the study in less than a minute if you typed "study testosterone muscle mass" on google, but instead you made this shit ass thread that will receive a bunch of replies from a bunch of retarded virgin meatheads arguing over stuff they have no scientific knowledge of
Good fucking job you stupid fuck, a thread dies for this
now KYS
Oliver James
yes, people who inject test and do nothing make better gains than those who are natty and workout, but obviously that only lasts for a certain amount of time, the study only lasted 6 weeks or something, I'm sure if you did the same study over 4 years the nattys would eventually surpass the do-nothing frauds
obviously the frauds who lift will do the best, but their dicks and hearts will eventually fail them, IMO natty is still the best way to go while doing everything you can to naturally increase test, decrease est and fix thyroid function
Adrian Nelson
>implying there are any threads on here that don't deserve death.
Colton Thomas
You and your loved ones deserve death.
Xavier Robinson
In before some faggot steroid user says:
>B-b-but that was water weight! You have to work hard to make gains, even on steroids!
No, the studies deducted water weight when calculating the new FFMI. Even modest increases in free testosterone gain around seven pounds of muscle without training.
John Johnson
No, that's fucking retarded. Lifting rips your muscles, they're then repaired and get bigger/stronger. Foods helps your muscles take more tension before tearing and heal faster.
If your sitting on your ass then none of this will happen.
How fucking stupid are you people?
Brandon James
Yes. Muscle growth is determined primarily by hormones
Joseph Lee
Yes it’s been proven that taking test and not working out still leads to significant muscle mass gains, even more than a natty lifter. Having more test signals your body to prioritize muscle building regardless. However your gains will be a lot less than if you were lifting AND roiding and any strength will leave you as soon as you stop. It’s not really a good plan.
Liam Evans
Yes. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either fucking retarded or on gear and want to prove that they earned their gains
Zachary Russell
>their dicks and hearts will eventually fail them
Testosterone is like mothers milk. Even on a gram I have good blood work.
Tren is satan's semen and will fuck your shit up. I'm taking it now and why do i do this.
Charles Campbell
Roided training > natty training > roided inactive > natty inactive
Christopher Collins
Guy in OP pic is Buakauw, a muay thai athlete btw.
Brody Baker
Steroids were invented to help people in HOSPITAL BEDS you moron
Kevin Davis
Only correct post
Evan Fisher
No. They gain LBM, which can be water, organ growth, glycogen, bunch of bullshit.
Not to mention it is not linear gains. It quickly levels off.
Julian Rodriguez
Go try it. Claim von moger in 18 weeks. Right guys?
God I hate that 14 year olds are allowed to post here.
Henry Walker
is this one of those things they do when their parents die or something
Jayden Parker
>Wah all the scientific data is wrong because it hurts my feelings!
Even actual TRT doses increase muscle mass in inactive men. Thousands of people have reported that outside of studies as well. You literally have zero evidence for your claim and are clearly only acting like a little faggot because you want to believe it's all about your work ethic creating muscle and not the drugs. You have the intelligence and logical abilities of a 14 year old, if not just a child.
Isaiah Mitchell
I did,Ii know big mistake but I lost weight and gained some muscle nothing massive but I looked good. I have been having some health problems since tough....
Kevin Martinez
nah thats not buakaw, he did it too but thats not him here. pic ralated is buakaw
Luis Turner
>naturally increase test, decrease est and fix thyroid function
how?
Jace Roberts
this pic?
Eli Mitchell
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make mindfulness gains
Jacob Perry
No, Thai men traditionally go ordain for a short period in their lives. I guess some people do it right after something like when their parents die, or when they have retired. The previous King in Thailand was so beloved that when he died, this guy decided to do his time in the name of the king.
Liam Hughes
>didn't read the study
Christian Thomas
so built triceps is most definitely half-natty?
Dylan Williams
>natty inactive
The worst of the worst. Natty inactive grotesque slobs, or NIGS for short
Jace Walker
>mentally weak faggot who relies on injecting testosterone into his ass made from a vat in a lab
>talking down to others
pick one
Zachary Nelson
>after years of anons talking ITT
>back and forth banter
>references to a study cloudy in mystery
>I have searched the world over
>the pyramids in egypt
>tranny filled streets of thailand (keen for the Veeky Forums meetup boyos!)
>I a...almost lost hope
>there a light shone down from the heavens above
>a voice called out:
>WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT BRAH!
>my (((google))) search box started to fill in itself
>there on my monitor I saw his grace
>a link to natty vs half-natty study that was spoken of in this place
nejm.org
study in question
David Allen
>No, the studies deducted water weight when calculating the new FFMI
No, it didn't. It calculated fat free mass, which includes muscle glycogen and intra-cellular/muscular water.
Chase Thomas
>No, it didn't. It calculated fat free mass, which includes muscle glycogen and intra-cellular/muscular water.
Yes, they did, you attention whoring pseudo intellectual. The included "Ratio of total body water to fat-free mass" and you can see that there's no significant water gain and that it's real lean mass.