Why is red now an F-tier color? How much have you spent adapting to the new meta? Do you think allies in BFZ and OGW were a good idea or an attempt at forcing decks? Find out on this edition of the standard general!
I'm running R/W allies with equipment, and G/W clues/ Westvale shenanigans. The only problem is splitting my good white cards between the two (i.e. which one gets the three copies of Always Watching I have)
Dylan Jones
I got a random question, can't find the answer anywhere basically what I want to know is can a card that says "Add one mana of any color to your mana pool." add colorless/waste mana? Or does it have to be one of the established 5?
Brayden Allen
It cannot, because Waste is specifically colorless.
I've been brewing with Jund midrange, but I have issues trying to cram so much goodstuff into so few slots.
Lincoln Price
>Sold a Sin prodder, Tireless Tracker, and a junk rare for 6 bucks at my FLGS >Bought two packs >First pack has an Avacyn >Sold it on the spot for 28 bucks >spent it on 9 packs and 2 card boxes >Pulled a Sorin, a TITI, and enough vampires to complete my Standard Rakdos deck >Going back to cash in on my Sorin as well as test out my deck Feels good man If next set's Liliana is as good as the Veil Lili, I'm gonna save my birthday money for a booster box, consequences be damned
Owen Phillips
git gud frogger
Anyone got some interesting or unorthodox brews they want to be good even though you know it will never compete against the meta?
Jaxson Peterson
Still wrecking face with my R/G werewolves. Mono white humans have nothing on me
Alexander Nelson
Yeah, ->
Benjamin Perry
"Not a car" isnt a type of car, user
Tyler Nelson
Rood
Samuel Long
Currently brewing Izzet Harness No idea what the fuck I'm doing but I'm going to somehow make a burn deck with Harness The Storm It can wreck in a modern burn deck since it's basically Storm's little crippled brother
Justin Green
I also have the misfortune of having a 3 harness the storm, do you have a list?
Hudson Hall
no, not yet So far the plan is 3-4 Memes in the Ice, that 3/4 flip enchantment, an Insectile Aberration or two, Harness the Storm, and as many low cmc burns as I can afford Maybe a tombstone golem to keep the storm harnessed, but that's a sideboard card tbqh family
You mean B/R Midrange where all your creatures happen to fly? Sure, seems fine. Play Goblin Dark Dwellers though, that way you can loop K- Commands
Jace Bell
So are you just actually retarded or are you seriously not running the best werewolf card in the format?
Parker Price
I skipped it last night in the draft for breakneck rider. fite me bitch
Ryder Evans
I'm having some joy playing heavy red werewolves/black removal.
Levi Cook
Give me a reason to use it when the highest cmc creature is 4 in my deck. Also I can just sideboard if I wanted to duskwatch badly
Angel Robinson
Alright lads I got a story for ya.
>Playing at local shop >New guy shows up with a girlfriend, both sit down and get to playing >Girl is borrowing decks n stuff from guy, I'm up against her first >She picks mono-g elves against Angel BR >Terrible opening hand (Literally all land) but keep it to see what might happen. >She starts rolling out elves, but isn't attacking >Literally made all of her elves 3/3s, but keeps only attacking with one while giggling >Draw new Chandra, not enough mana to play her >Suddenly draw new Nahiri, play her since no other options >She ignores her, keeps swinging with her one elf to try rubbing it in >Nahiri hits 8 >Nahiri into Sol Ring (Lol) into Chandra into -4 >Play Elspeth turn after >Draw pic related a few turns later >GG
I think I made her mad.
Jaxson Green
I think you meant this for the EDH general, but still nice story regardless
Luke Phillips
>BR Shit, was thinking about Boros. WR
Nicholas Cox
> get a fat pack today >sorin and the get good frog and enough other shit the pack almost paid for itself Really looking forward to eldritch moon, pretty much getting a fat pack of each new set just for the decent boxes.
Xavier Perry
>do you think allies were a good idea
No.
There's a reason that Allies have only appeared in four sets. In Zendikar block, they were shitty Slivers. You could figure this out by comparing Harabaz Druid (a rare) to Gemhide Sliver (a common better than the aforementioned rare).
In Battle For Zendikar block, the Allies all seemed weird to me. Most of them don't actually mention being Allies, and none of the eight Ally rares that actually mention Allies read very well.
Brandon Rogers
>tfw your kitchen table games are getting competitive enough that people are talking about buying singles to get four ofs and people actually want to start going to fnms I don't know the power level of my local store but I can see some dreams getting crushed in the future.
Drafting should be fun though.
Julian Gomez
>Why is red now an F-tier color? The fuck does that mean? >How much have you spent adapting to the new meta Not much, my LGS is mostly casual jankbrews. No tryhard faggots >Do you think allies were a good idea They were released at the wrong time, the only allies that came out looking good were the WR
Nathaniel Howard
You don't play it for the discount. You play it for 2g draw a creature flip wolves
Easton Rodriguez
I would rather use oath of nissa, wasting 3 mana to potentially get a creature doesn't fit my meta
Hunter Barnes
git gud frogger
Ayden Cox
I've been lurking these threads for a while, I dont really have anyone interested in ever playing casual with me, and so I only ever go to friday draft nights at my local store.
I dont have any strong urge to play constructed, and I haven't really come across anyone at my local store playing anything but legacy or basically just whatever goes, so I only ever play in drafts, and put the deck in a box at the end of the night and never use them again.
to get anything decently competitive to play in a constructed format, I'm gunna have to drop at least a hundy right? why? is drafting not a more even format for playing? gib advice pls, some of you apparently spend shitloads on physical cards, should I stick to my $20 drafts a week and leave it at that?
Tyler Ward
You can make a fairly competitive deck for less than $50. Especially now with the fetchlands rotated, it depends on the meta of your store if it would be worth playing more seriously
Jace Stewart
You could try to sell some of the rares you've gotten in draft that are worth some money and use that to build your constructed deck.
Parker Foster
Stupid question - do creatures with a subtype of zombie x (such as zombie horror) count as zombies for tribal synergies?
I'm trying to find a list of all zombies in standard but none include cards like forgotten creation. Anyway, are there any acceptable 2-drop zombies besides relentless dead or should I just fill space with Asylum Visitors?
Isaiah Robinson
>it depends on the meta of your store Yeah that's what i'm not so sure of. we're in a smallish city in New Zealand, so the most people I have ever seen in there is only 30-40. the first time I saw people playing there they had like 300 card decks and 50 life points, and most of the games I've seen outside the drafts seem to be similar weird games that I don't understand.
yeah that's probably what I'm gunna do at some point, I just try to be wary of ending up like the stories I hear of people spending thousands on decks, which I can see myself doing given the chance. fuck, mind you, 20 a week adds up pretty fast over a year or two now I think about it.
Logan Ortiz
>Standard states tomorrow >Can't find all my Hallowed Moonlights
Kill me
Henry Russell
>Stupid question yeeeeeah dawg
so 'hound of the farbogs', and 'crow of dark tidings' are good to go for example
you'd be a good person to ask then do you like voracious null? I can't make my mind up on it.
Landon Martinez
did you check your pockets?
Evan Ortiz
Who is the best seller to use on TCG in australia? I find channel fireballs postage to be way too slow
Austin Thompson
No, I don't like it since the timing is limited, inferior to Nantuko Husk and other 3 drops.
Jace Cruz
Husk is only to end of turn though Null is the same thing, but with a 2 mana cost for 2*1/1 counters
But yeah, the extra mana cost on turn 4 means you can only play either some kind of 2 drop spell or bear, although it becomes a turn 4 4/4 and turn 5 6/6 assuming you have a creature to sac.
I want it to be good, but it's a bit too dependant on other cards to be able to ramp up to live more than a few turns.
Isaiah Taylor
How did peoples FNM's go?
I went 3-0-1 and ID'd with the only other 3-0 but we still played a few fun games
I'm loving UR Goggle Control. Extremely fun to navigate games with it
Levi Cook
went 0-2 in the first and both sets were like 4 minutes against mono humans. went 2-0 in the second game against some poor girl who drew nothing but lands last guy defaulted and I just brought a booster and played a new kid there for the rare out of it. dont wanna talk about who won.
Sebastian Parker
>Mana Curve 2.5 >Have Relatively Reliable Clue Draw Power >Green/White with a splash of Black >A Creature That Produces Mana x3
How many lands should I be running? Can I get away with 20?
Adam Baker
How do you git gud at magic? Just went 3-2 with a expensive deck. Feels bad man.
Lucas Martin
Depends on what your clue generator is but yes. 20 lands with a 3 mana curve is fine.
Benjamin Cruz
Since the format has so much exile based removal its best to use husk over null since null can only do so at sorcery speeds. Making the card null. Zombies have a lot of powerful cards. I'm just waiting for someone to crack open the box and let it out.
Juan Thomas
3x Confront the Unknown 4x Tireless Tracker 4x Thraben Inspector
Justin Nelson
been running 3-1 or 2-2 with b/g midrange gitgud frog is good
Kevin Foster
Why no stormchaser mages and titans strength it flips your tities and smashes face
Gavin Bailey
Idk, I feel like that card takes too much investment to actually be worth it at that cost (if it was a 2 drop itd be nice,id run 3) vs husk/fleshbag marauder/graveblade marauder, something im pretty much always gonna get value out of. Getting to block straightaway with Nantuko Husk and buff it as an instant effect - thats gonna happen way more than you're going to end up getting enough counters on this thing (and wasting mana to do so)
Noah Cook
2-2 with G/B Token rites. First time playing since like September. I like the deck but it's got some things wrong with it I'm not sure how to fix
Nolan Clark
yeah this is true, I didn't really consider the speeds, chur
Cooper Sanchez
I'd look for a consistent way to ramp for a devastating cast of From Under The Floorboards.
Leo Sanchez
My favorite deck to play in OGW standard was Esper demonic pact, but I very much depended on fetches and Dig Through Time to find my pacts. Is there any good way to play this deck in today's standard? tappedout.net/mtg-decks/22-01-16-esper-demonic-pact/
>Nath of the Gilt-leaf At the beginning of your upkeep, you may have target opponent discard a card at random. Whenever an opponent discards a card, you may put a 1/1 green Elf Warrior creature token onto the battlefield.
How DOES randomly discarding like that work in the physical game? shuffle hand and draw the top? present to opponent and let them pick one from the back? I can't find any clear answers.
Christian Young
didn't mean to reply sorry
every fucken day I do this...
Carter Clark
were you correctly guessing what plays your opponent is making, and then responding appropriately with your hand and deck? If yes you need a better deck. If no you need to play more and watch some pro play. Learn how the meta works and how to properly interact with cards so if the rare opportunity comes up you can maximize your decks abilities.
Zachary Thompson
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Brandon Adams
...they're full
Austin Ortiz
Working on a budget build for game day. Basic idea is a rally deck that abuses Healer triggers, but can sideboard into a grindier midrange build. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/08-03-16-ally-aristocrats/ Any suggestions?
dunno how this is on the budget. i dont follow prices. you absolutely want Kalastria Healer and Drana's Emissary. there's a rare 6drop 5/5 flyer or thereabouts in SOI I can't remember the name of, it's cheap though, and whenever you gain life, opponent loses that much life. that would be a good include too.
Zachary Allen
>tfw gabby will never crush your head in her thighs
Brandon Morgan
git gud frogger
Justin Mitchell
Defiant Bloodlord
Elijah Garcia
THATS the sucker.
yeah, basically that deck, with some white removal auras, and black straight removal has been all the rage at my LGS I fucking hate it.
Eli Morris
>Season's Past jumping from $2 to $9
What is it being used in?
Sebastian Rivera
Season's Past and Dark Petition are used in a BG Control list currently played at the Pro Tour.
Isaiah Clark
Quick google search shows Jon Finkel is running B/G control for PT with Season's Past
Landon Bennett
Can someone explain to me why is Liliana, Heretical Healer rising up in price so unexpectedly i have seen her in like 0 decks anywhere yet she keeps popping up in the daily price change going up and up and up.
Brody Gutierrez
Black-Green Aristocrats
Caleb Roberts
>any colour >colourless You did go to school, right user?
Evan Foster
5-1 with w/b vampire ally aristocrats. It's easy to beat company and humans when you never have to attack them, and can just drain them to death
Blake Sullivan
Can I get a second opinion tg?
Anthony Brooks
So Arlinn was a meme after all...
Evan Clark
>Someone on this board bought Arliin Kord for $40 bucks hoping it would warp Standard.
3x Hope Against Hope 3x Gryff's Boon 3x Dead Weight 3x Confront The Unknown 3x Anguished Unmaking 2x Geist Cloak 1x Sorin, Grim Nemesis
Land
4x Fortified Village 4x Swamp 4x Forest 8x Plains
Hunter Peterson
Say what you will about LSV but at least he doesn't do that annoying fucking card flicking
Michael Roberts
Sup Veeky Forums
Noob player here with a basic question.
If I kill my opponents creature that had skin invasion on it for a few turns with a sorcery on my turn, I get it back as a 3/4 creature. Does that creature then have summoning sickness?
Same user >Go to local Rite aid and pick up 2 packs for shits & giggles >Pull another Avacyn My smug has reached critical levels
Ryan Lopez
I went 4-1 with my own goggles brew, only lost to Bant company. I've been thinking about dropping my green and getting on the UR control boat though for that Anguished unmaking playmat next week. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/nu-std-bru-r/
Ryan Jenkins
>Finkel in PT top 8 again >with a meme deck
Adrian Martinez
>mfw i got 2 arlins in one booster pack
Blake Gray
Bump?
Alexander Reed
how does mono white humans deal with languish I always end up getting them low then i get hit with a languish and after that i just cant pick up any momentum
Levi Robinson
>tfw bought 2 arlinn for $20 Even if she drops I still paid jack shit for them