/swg/ general: Hokey Religions and Ancient Weapons edition

>Not General Corellia
shit taste, senpai

Best general from Corellia coming through.

How are both of you so wrong?

So, only Savage Spirits is currently announced for the FFG RPGs, and that's "On The Boat", do we want to take bets on what product(s) will be announced next?

I think I like old man Obi Wan best

Since I mentioned this on the last thread, a /swg/ X-Wing/armada club would be pretty fun. At least get some people into Armada.

its really expensive which bugs me. also, the games I feel take longer than X-wing.

The games do take longer, generally about 2 hours or so. It's a different game, yeah, but at least a Vassal group with X-Wing and Armada can facilitate that.

And it's pretty expensive. Though I think I spent as much on Wave 2 of Armada as I have the most recent X-Wing wave.

I don't hate the idea of Inquisitors being scrubby padawan level. they're just attack dogs.

it makes sense, keep the lap dogs weak and teach them wrong so they can't be a threat to their masters. Dark siders LOVE making a backstabbing conga line.

I'd say droids are greatly underrated in-universe. They really should have replaced most humanoid labor.

It also makes them incredibly ineffective. Did sheev really believe that maul would be defeated by a lowly padowan level force user?

Best character in all of Star Wars.

>scrubby consular level

Fixed. Except replace force philosophy with investigative skills.

He did the first time.

Anybody got scans of the Nebulon B or MC80 cross sections from Complete Vehicles?

I don't hate it either, but in a way it feels like an indirect nerf to Sheev and Vader. I always felt like they allowed the Inquisitorius in the Legends continuity to thrive because they knew they'd be styling on the Inquisitors no matter what. It puts things in perspective when guys like Jerec--a formidable opponent in his own right--says "how high" when Sheev or Vader tell him to force-jump.

I don't dislike the nucanon Inquisitors at all, but I wouldn't have minded them being a little more competent.

AoR Adventure probably, we're pretty overdue for one. After that would probably be AoR Career, and then probably Bounty Hunter career, assuming they don't prolong that any further.

pretty sure he didn't expect obi wan to beat him

>Upcoming chapter of Empire's Shadow
>Leia PoV on a commando raid

I'm having such fun.

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I write fanfic. My current project involves a 30,000+ word fanfic about an AU where Luke instead of Leia is raised by the Organas. Shit's crazy.

Sounds stupid.
But that's how fanfic is. Stupid.

Eh, fanfic isn't my thing either, but who am I to tell anyone how to have their own fun?

When is Wedge ever a general?

It lets me put off writing jobs I'm actually being paid for that I can't focus on.

I think everyone would agree, including Ewan Mcgregor. Doesn't mean young Obi isn't one of the best things about the prequels

Wait, darth maul came back?

Starfighters of Adumar and beyond.

Ok. X-wing is on my list for sure. Han gets my vote though because he is my hero, and also an asshole

So does leia become the force user and luke the rebel prince?

Yeah he's been back twice now (4 if you count Star Wars tales). He's like the melanoma of Star Wars

>Ewan McGregor's phone rings one day
>It's from a Los Angeles area code
>"Hi, it's Lucasf-"
>Ewan McGregor shows up in Hollywood in full Tatooine Obi-Wan costume and lightsaber, ready to start filming the Obi-Wan solo film.

I'm legitimately sure this will happen.

How did he survive getting bisected, and then thrown down an infinite shaft?

Not even sheeve could survive the infinite shaft.

A talking snake somehow stopped the bleeding, built him robot legs, and moved him halfway across he Galaxy. Without hands. It is retarded. Never trust Clone Wars fans

I'm all for it another Mcgregor Obi-Wan, but I'm not sure the source material can actually justify it. Is he gonna be tattooine batman or something? Otherwise it's just a movie about a lonely guy learning to deal with the hand he's been dealt. That sounds like a Ewan Mcgregor movie, but not really a Star Wars movie.

The source marterial actually justifies it. The new Star Wars comics basically show him as a Tatooine Batman. He wants to stay quiet, refuse to do anything that might make him stand out at first, but he breaks down, and eventually starts sticking up against Jabba's goons.

I guess I can see it. I'm kinda proud I guessed where'd they took him. I watch and see if that makes a good movie though

If you're gonna be angry, at least check your facts.

>However, through his hate and will to survive, Maul used the Force to grab an air vent as he was tumbling down the reactor shaft. He then managed to make it to a trash container. Maul's shattered body was dumped on the junkyard world of Lotho Minor. He lived in the bowels of the planet and had his legs replaced by a six-legged apparatus that allowed him to walk again. During his exile, he made a bargain with a sentient sneaky snake-like creature called Morley, who agreed to bring Maul food in return for his leftovers. Over the years, Maul was driven mad with rage and despair, thoughts of revenge against Kenobi. -Wookieepedia

>lightsaber
>bleeding

The way I see it, you could script it as a sort of a sci-fi Unforgiven. The old gunslinger character who's sworn off killing and wants peace and quiet. You don't see the lightsaber until the final fight when Obi-Wan does what needs doing to save the homesteads.

>Forgetting ANH's cantina scene

Clone wars says he made his way to a junk planet where he lost his mind for a bit until his brother Savage oppress found him. His hate for Obi-Wan and his now lost future kept him alive he says.

He helped to over throw the pacifist mandalorian government and drew the ire of sheev. He is eventually freed from captivity and tries to get revenge again and fails again.

HE vanishes until we see him at the end of rebels season 2 and we find out sheev has been hunting him with his inquisitors

Finally finished cropping the new Special Modifications and Keeping the Peace scans and adding bookmarks. Also took the improved scans from Keeping the Peace and replaced the original talent trees in the big talent tree file with them. Everything's up on the folders.

Oh, and obviously Mask of the Pirate Queen has been up for a while in case anyone missed that last thread.

Lightsabers are pretty inconsistent on when they do and don't cause bleeding.

I always assumed the heat setting for the saber was adustable

I'm playing in an Imperial Assault tournament tomorrow. Which list should I take?
>Imperial anti-Bantha Rider list with AT-ST and lots of Stormtroopers
>Rebel midrange list with 2 groups of Wookiees, elite Rebel Saboteurs, Diala, Gideon, and the droids
>Mercenary all-painted list with 2 groups of elite Trandoshans, 1 group regular Trandoshans, HKs, and Hired Guns

Not knowing anything about the game, I recommend the all-painted mercs, because SWAGGER

Paint swag all day

I wouldn't say all of it.

There are 5 or 6 good ones.

Did you say something about swag? Is there anything more swag than purple jumpsuits? Also, I got a couple of Imperial Officers finished today.

>But that's how fanfic is. Stupid.
There's plenty of good fanfic. It's just hard to find the good ones because most fanfic sites refuse to institute any sort of rating system.

What about obi-wan working behind the scenes to keep imperial attention off of tattooine? And part of it is him dealing with the fact that what he's doing to protect Luke is also letting the scum who inhabit tattooine escape justice
I think it'd be interesting

After hearing from all this anons I think there are good ideas. Honestly when I said tatooine batman it was the only thing I could think of but that doesn't mean it was a bad idea. Call me tentatively excited at this point

1) that is definitely not explained in the episode
2) he got into a trash container and survived for a trip halfway across the galaxy as a fucking torso? Ok. It's still a stupid comic book tier revival

>its really expensive

Are you fucking kidding me? You can literally get all the ships you need for 2 people for less than $500. In most other systems, that's barely enough for a single sizable force.

most games are not warhammer, senpai

To be fair, at the time Legends material was still canon.

The legends stuff was all Star Wars Tales i.e. For fun what-if ideas not "canon." Either way Maul should have died in Episode I. Clone Wars handled it about as well as they could have but that doesn't make it a good idea,let alone having him survive into rebels

Kurosawa would also be a good influence. I picture something like Obi-Wan being forced to use his old war experience to help groups of moisture farmers defend themselves from a rampaging horde of Tusken Raiders, while dealing with the ethical implications of warfare and its ultimate futility.

And have Liam Neeson reprise his role as Qui-Gon, either appearing as a disembodied voice or in dreams to help guide Obi-Wan's training and help him come to terms with everything that happened in III.

Dude, MTG is more expensive. Infinity is more expensive. Warmahordes is more expensive.

Literally the only TT game less expensive than Armada is X-wing, because X-wing is babbies first wargame.

Boba Fett should have died after RotJ

He had three post-TPM appearances prior to TCW resurrecting him that I'm seeing, only one of which was definitely not canon whatsoever.

>Old Wounds

Not from Tales, not canon. From a book called Visionaries (which I've been meaning to track down a copy of).

>Resurrection

From Tales, but confirmed as canon later by Leland Chee.

>Phantom Menaces (or: the one where solid hologram Maul fights Luke)

At least partially canon, despite being from Tales, as portions of the story are mentioned in the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia - though not all of it is.

Except we clearly see them go and tell big daddy vader that maul is there, because vader alone can wreck maul's shit. A team of inquisitors plus vader = slaughter.

The inquisitors are cocky as shit, that's why they tried to fight maul. Sure they can take Ezra and on a good day Kanan too, but their overconfidence was their weakness (hmm when do we ever see that in dark Siders? Jerec, Desann, Darth revan, Darth bandon, asajj, maul, savage opress......)

So how long does hyperspace travel between two systems take exactly? In TFA it felt like they were capable of going between planets in a matter of 5 minutes or less.

I agree, it's disappointing they brought out the grand inquisitor and scratched him season one. I woulda preferred that say "nameless, faceless inqusitor 3" whose sole accomplishment was falling to death have come in season 1, then the two from season two, then grand inquisitor in season 3.

It depends. Hours to days, depending on distance and route.

But yes, JJ can't into scale.

That bugged the shit out of me in TFA.

In the original trilogy, it seems like a significant amount of time passes in hyperspace. At least long enough for Han & Chewie to leave the cockpit and hang out by the chess table.

And in Empire and ROTJ, it takes Luke a while to get to Dagobah and for the Rebel Fleet to reach Endor.

Galaxies are fucking huge, and while Hyperspace cuts travel time down significantly, time still passes.

I like to assume that this is due to water constants in creatures tissues.

Water has high specific heat, ie., it absorbs a lot of heat energy before boiling away.

A critter with sufficient water would maybe not suffer such drastic insta-burn injuries

Of course the real reason is PG ratings.

Depends on the distance.

Alderaan is near the core. Tatooine is at the edge basically. However they seemed to get there FAST. Maybe a few hours.

Same day, they go from Alderaan to Yavin 4, and the fuckhuge Death Star gets there THAT DAY. Also probably a few hours.

Geonosis to coruscant communications lagged a bit, maybe, but this seems inconsistent as the Jedi teleconferences seem real-time across the clone wars.

Realistically I would say that, as long as you were on a trade route, you could reach anywhere in the galaxy (on a route) within a day with a military grade hyperdrive, maybe 2 with a commercial grade drive, and 3-7 days for a cheap shitty personal drive that's like a V4 car engine (speculation, but it works for FFG where players want gottagofast engines and you can use it as a carrot).

I was in a game where the DM had hyperspace travel take place for days at a time regardless of what vessel you were in, but I'd say it was pretty justified as it was set 2 years after Endor and the hyperspace routes were the front lines of the war, meaning we had to stagger our jumps so we could avoid the main conflict zones.

Here's how the FFG system rules it. Note that this is with a class 1 hyperspace engine. The Falcon has a class 0.5 which would halve the times listed, most rebel fighters usually have class 1 and your run of the mill freighters usually have class 2 (double the times shown)

Tcw has almost instant travel. Padme is infected with space aids and Anakin researches a cure, travels to the planet, fights a plant, defeats a blockade laser grid, gets back in time for them to formulate a cure and heal everyone... Several other times in tcw it seems travel was almost instant.

However other sources show hours or days for brief jumps from system to system. I tend to favor longer passage time and go with that.

There's a lot of EU canon about what happens during those time lapses. Like Luke learning to fly the x-wing and becoming a member of Red Squadron when they get to Yavin before the Death Star shows up and ambushes them

It's heavily implied that Luke joins Red Squadron on a whim with very little time. Basically Biggs vouches for him and there are so few pilots and so little time thy have to take him

Really all he had to say was "more will come" and if all the inquisitors were on the same level having more would be an escalation alone. And it would make it feel less cheap when they wipe the floor with them (except it would still feel really cheap)

How would you make Battlefront 2 Space Combat more interesting/better?

My thoughts:

>player controlled capships
>bots fly in formations (e.g. Strike packages, escorts, and CAP)
>limited ordnance

Good point good point. I completely forgot that these bitch made fucks can stall till Vader arrives, but that's also assuming he is in system or somewhere close. Hyper space travel still takes time

or just orbital bombard the planet

>>limited ordnance
Considering the game is run by EA, don't let them see that or they'll start charging real money to get more ordnance.

I mean, I guess lol. God damn. That's one hellof a way to get rid of a force user

Why would they do such a thing?

It ruins the efficiency of the Empire. Unless the force user was a Master just sending Vader/Inkys would be enough.

You forget, the Empire loves bombarding the shit out of planets.

Any excuse is a good one.

2005 Battlefront, not EA Battlefieldfront

Inquisitors are sort of a mix of lightsabre skill, hunting dog and investigator- plus they have a lot of temporal power to push the Imp Army and Navy around to do what they want. Bit like a secret police force that is mostly secret... sort of, unlike the ISB which is the not so secret police force everyone knows about it seems.

Considering most of the time, they'd be dragging scrubby little untrained force users out of their holes, beating up the odd badly trained padawan and old, crippled men most of the time. Actual resistance isn't usually that high and to some extent that does sort of mean they do their job in almost every circumstance. Anything else and they'll cook up a couple of platoons of stormtroopers, artillery strikes and various other means of fucking shit up.

If they die?
Who cares really, Palps doesn't give a fuck as he's got plenty more of them and most Inq's are arseholes enough that they don't make a lot of friends.

Yeah, I understand the new Inquisitors. I like both ways of doing things, it just seems to me that generally the Inquisitors from Rebels are the less interesting choice.

Yeah, I tend to borrow a bit more from the WEG era of inquisitors, mixed in with the FFG system
The Inq in Rebels is simplistic, which is fine for a TV show, but roleplayers tend to want details that media doesn't really convey.

I seem to recall some decent old-canon stuff relating to that.

It was part of a series, but the only one of them I have is Death on Naboo, which takes place after Obi-Wan left.

It follows Ferris Olin, if I remember correctly.

late night spess bump

Those things make sense sure but really it's all fluff justification for how badly villains are handled in Rebels. Sure Vader shows up twice a season to keep things scary but for the most part the rebels run circles around the looney tunes tier Imperials. Then they kill off their first inquisitor, who was kind of a challenge, sometimes. Except wait, instead of making him a taste of the future he's actually the strongest and the rest are all trained wrong on purpose. And in their case the show is trying to play them for fear but instead they just look incompetent or act as /ss/ fetish fuel for deviants. You can have kids shows with good villains, like both avatar series for example. The show has a hard time justifying itself when 80% of the time there are no stakes.

The problem of the Inquisition is that they literally come out of nowhere. Admiral Motti was dismissive of Vader's sorcerer's ways, which indicates that any Dark Side users serving the Empire were few in numbers and mostly irrelevant, but we have quite a few running around and everyone knows about them. I know Star Wars is full of inconsistencies, but this one irks me for some reason.

Aren't the inqusitiors from the WEG D6 books though?