I don't understand why this is something to contest. Empires do horrible shit to people to run. That's like, Empire 101.
/exg/ - Exalted General
Luis Garcia
Sebastian Price
So Queen Victoria was a supervillain, doing it just because she hated dirty little negroes and wanted them to suffer?
Jeremiah James
That empires are awful? It's not a complicated issue.
The people in them might not be awful, but the Empire is.
Either you don't understand what you're reading or you're making a strawman argument, let us know which please.
Easton Gray
>That empires are awful? It's not a complicated issue.
Well, I suppose.
But you seem to like reading. Why not do a little and discover that the foundational means of our modern society is based almost solely in the works of empires.
It's pretty straightforward, after all.
Jacob Moore
If you believe that a good end result diminishes how awful something was then it's going to be difficult to discuss this. Everything has limitless consequences, just picking a positive one is cherry picking.
Jace Myers
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Which Caste of Alchemicals includes ninjas?
Alexander Martinez
Then our modern society rose from putrid foundations.
I fail to see the problem. Lots of cool shit arises from putrid origins.
Asher Green
Starmetal, Moonsilver, Soulsteel or Adamant. Though each would be different in style of "Ninja"
Benjamin Martin
>If you believe that a good end result diminishes how awful something was then it's going to be difficult to discuss this.
>Then our modern society rose from putrid foundations.
What I've established here is that, contrary to your assertions, this is not a pretty straightforward issue. It's couched in nuance and exacerbated by a lack of understanding and perspective.
To say that I find the writers' outlook on imperialism, colonialism, and slavery puerile is a kindness. To have excellent criticism of their puerile outlook dismissed with "you don't know what you're talking about" indicates that these people should not be dealing with paying customers, let alone complex subject matter.
Ryan Allen
Sure. I don't think she cared what the dirty little negroes thought and I don't think she would've cared whether they suffered or not as long as they produced results, and that's still pretty terrible.
Is there some kind of clever point you're trying to make with this? Like, do you actually think that you're required to have malicious intent to be bad?