CYOA General

no one has done it since it was first posted.
It's become nothing but bloat. Someone probably you keeping posting because >lol omg I posted it again, hehe, play it

Anyway, I really really wish this one had more emotion to it. It could've been great.
I'd have liked a tsundere option where you break her in with your dick, of course, but eh. Can't have it all.

>no one has done it since it was first posted
Two people did that I remember. One finished it and for all we know didn't get his real life waifu (what a rip off), took him like 20 posts over two threads or some crazy shit like that, and the other got halfway into it before breaking.

>One finished it and for all we know didn't get his real life waifu (what a rip off), took him like 20 posts over two threads or some crazy shit like that
I remember that. His Alice was a lamia who lied to him about it over an anonymous dating website. The writefaggotry was above average.

And since I talked about it, I should probably at least do it.
I still think getting a submissive girlfriend is boring - it's the path to making her submissive that's fun.
So instead of Abandoned being "I will do anything because you're my male rolemodel", it'd instead be an out of control girl that needs a good hard dicking to calm down. That's all she wants, to have someone tell her no.

>Anxious
Of the available options, it's the only one that's even mildly appealing ("her confidence is tied to your praise")
No interest in abusing her or having her wear a fucking collar. She's not a dog.
I don't understand the "D/s sessions".
>Afterplay,
I guess
The punishments are all fucked up.
Same goes for corrections.
>Maid
What did you even try to say with Wake-up call? That she wakes up your before you?
Should've just said that.

plus, having the narrator wank while you're doing the cyoa isn't appealing in the slightest

I want to take that cyoa and edit it: replace all the pics of cute girls with boys and replace all the female pronouns with male ones.

Is that rude?

Are there any CYOAs where the choices aren't all benefit benefit benefit?

Is there a CYOA where you start off as a normal human, and you have 40 (or so) Disadvantage Points that you are forced to spend on making yourself shittier than average?

I'm tired of all this power fantasy. I want some "you are shit" fantasy!

Oh boy. This is gonna be a fun thread.

Those CYOA are terrible, and I continue to find them as such. Maybe if you benefit from taking these disadvantages..

It is pretty rude to ruin a cyoa because it doesn't appeal to your gay fetish, yes.

>I'm tired of all this power fantasy. I want some "you are shit" fantasy!

user, I'm already shit. What you're proposing is the kind of "escapism" I can find by looking in a mirror.

A good CYOA would allow you the introspection that just might lead to you improving your lot in life. The best example is the earliest basement ones, which were ultimately about coming to understand what are the things that truly matter to you and which parts of your life you'd be willing to give up.

No. A good cyoa lets me be a dragon and provides me with enough dragon-related fapping material to last a week in which I grow progressively more ashamed of my rampant dragon obsession.

Not every shitty thing about a person is something that can be helped. A big one for me personally is how I've got issues with my memory, and a very strong history of Alzheimer's in my family.

Some changes to my lifestyle might help with that slightly, but the fact remains I'm probably going to forget who I am in a few decades, if I live that long.

? I asked for a CYOA in the CYOA thread, isn't that what the thread is for?

But benefits are lame wish fulfilment shit.
I want disadvantages! It'll be more fun if you have to choose which thing(s) you have to sacrifice (for no benefit), and you have to sacrifice 40 points worth of things!

Ok.
Then we take You as the base.
And we add 40 points of disadvantages on top of that.
That way you can partake in the fantasy too!

Oh. well the disadvantages CYOA would do that.

>Those CYOA are terrible, and I continue to find them as such.
Why?
If you're a roleplayer, you fucking love taking disadvantages.
If you're a minmaxer, then you can minmax the disadvantages to leave you in the "least worst" position.
Are you some kind of 3rd option? If so what's it like? I wanna see if I can play with your style, whatever it is.

Yeah, but introspection is the kind of thing that might ultimately lead you to realizing what things about life you truly appreciate, enjoy or cherish, which could allow you to make more of them than by wasting whatever time you do have moping about and watching porn.

You have to make one yourself.

>If you're a minmaxer, then you can minmax the disadvantages to leave you in the "least worst" position.
Can you name one where the least bad position isn't the invocation of Rule 0?

Huh that'll be a tricky one.
Ok, I'll get to work!

Oh I forgot about that.

Yeah I suppose playing the DM is always the most efficient way to get max power.

I feel a bit sad now.

I meant the Rule 0 of CYOAs, i.e. "you can always choose not to play" or something to that effect.

Ok smartass. But optimising -within constraints- is what the minmaxers are about.
Yes I know a minmaxer can always just -say- they'll only play a game where they're a lv.9999 master of instantly win everything. And I'm sure they'd enjoy that a lot.
But it's more fun to win in a framework where winning is difficult! ... isn't it?
Maybe you're right.

Fuck it I want this so I'm gonna make it anyway. I wanna play a CYOA where you are more shit than an average human and try to optimise so you are the least shit. Even if it's irrational of me to want this.

What I liked most about this CYOA was that the girls were actually villianous. Not even in the 'Oh no, I took this 2$ candybar tehe I'm such a bad girl '-kind of way. Josie got busted for CP, for fuck's sake. That was refreshing.

What I would have liked to see is Steph talking about how she did in fact have a bf previously but they broke up due to her severe alcholism. This is seems like a more reasonable explanation for why she, a 25 year old woman, is not in a relationship or has family to rely on. Because her alcoholism is quite serious.

My greater issue with this CYOA are the ages of Shelly and mystery box. insofar as I can tell this CYOA is about roommates falling in love with the self-insert. Both of these girls, three if you count Daisy, are both extremely young and thus inherently impressionable but also seriously mentally damaged. Nymphomania isn't just being really horny, it's typically a symptom of some other mental disorder. A disorder that the girl is not treating.

You could at least make your own version heavily inspired by the original so you aren't a total asshole.

cont.

The fact is, with Shelly and mystery box what is implied (sex) is beyond just criminal it's incredibly morally despicable. These girls, like I said earlier, are extremely vulnerable to predatory behavior like is being implicitly encouraged in this CYOA. I don't think we should be encouraging the abuse of underage and mentally ill girls like this. Why would any government agency responsible for child-welfare allow this?

>read your post
>look at the CYOA
>the first girl directly contradicts you right from the start
ok, cyoa and opinion discarded

Go ahead, it's your time and energy. I'll just probably ignore it like the other "you can't not be shit" CYOAs.

Ok but what if....

So this is like a proof of concept

I like this. I extra like this because I made the Black Bay and this has great synergy with the whole inter-worlds piratery thing I had going on there.

I fucking hate lolishit CYOAs and you have made a case against them that makes me want to actually defend them, congrats.

>What I liked most about this CYOA was that the girls were actually villianous.

Alcoholics aren't evil.

>My greater issue with this CYOA are the ages of Shelly and mystery box. insofar as I can tell this CYOA is about roommates falling in love with the self-insert. Both of these girls, three if you count Daisy, are both extremely young and thus inherently impressionable but also seriously mentally damaged. Nymphomania isn't just being really horny, it's typically a symptom of some other mental disorder. A disorder that the girl is not treating.

>The fact is, with Shelly and mystery box what is implied (sex) is beyond just criminal it's incredibly morally despicable. These girls, like I said earlier, are extremely vulnerable to predatory behavior like is being implicitly encouraged in this CYOA. I don't think we should be encouraging the abuse of underage and mentally ill girls like this.

There are CYOAs where the player is a dark god that fucking obliterates innocent peoples' immortal souls.

There are CYOAs where the goal is to find the most efficient way to trap random passerbys in your domain and drive them insane before torturing them to death, in order to sustain yourself.

Almost every single CYOA ever made has had evil options. How is this any worse? Should we stop making ones where you make cool monsters too? What about conflict itself?

>Why would any government agency responsible for child-welfare allow this?

Bad writing.

Going to adapt the black bay to v3?

But user! A work or body of works contributes to the thoughtscape of a cultural and can contribute to cultural expectations and unconscious rape of innocent women everywhere!
Women's studies is a real science!

Can someone explain to me why this cyoa and the age of those girls does not make you uncomfortable?

Context; I'm a fag so theoretically I should like the male version of this. That's why I tried to gather some pics of cute boys and they disgusted me so freaking much. It felt really wrong to make a cyoa out of that. So I don't get it. I don't get why young girls are so popular here. Is it actually a fetish thing?

Not trolling. Just trying to better my understanding of lolis in waifu culture here on /cyoag/ Sorry if it sounds like I'm targetting this cyoa specifically.

I want to but I don't think Thrallherd is finished with his updates so I have no idea how much work it would be.

I want to make some more fanworlds in fact but I just keep waiting for those damn updates which kinda sucks.

Where do you guys get pics for waifus? I need some pics and have no idea where to look.

It's hard to tell what's legit and what isn't these days.

>Is it actually a fetish thing?

Dude...

>Where do you guys get pics for waifus?
The illustrious and ever-fleeting waifu mines.

>Alcoholics aren't evil.

You're right. Period.

>There are CYOAs where the player is a dark god that fucking obliterates innocent peoples' immortal souls.

>There are CYOAs where the goal is to find the most efficient way to trap random passerbys in your domain and drive them insane before torturing them to death, in order to sustain yourself.

>Almost every single CYOA ever made has had evil options.

And? Why can't I criticize this one? What makes it above criticism?

>How is this any worse?
Why does it need to be worse for me to be able to criticize it?

>Should we stop making ones where you make cool monsters too?
I don't understand what you're trying to say here. What does this have to do with me disliking the fact that I take issue with having sex with underage girls?

>What about conflict itself?

What about it?

It's an anime thing.
There's a bunch of Japanese cultural shit behind it but the relevant part to a westerner is the understanding that 2D != 3D, the viewer is assumed to be able to distinguish reality from fiction.

So this is how I imagined it to be played.
Tell me if it's intuitive/balanced.

So you start with a conduit build. I'll do a simple one. Full Prison meistery. That's 20 points.

Then I think of a product. Something believable that I'd think other people'd want to buy. I'll use the ichor, I don't know how combining it with an earth resource would do it any good so I'll sell it straight.

One normal station at my ichor harvesting plant (-2)
I imagine ichor would be a low cost product for a niche market so I look there for options.
Now I choose what I could realistically justify as being my products strengths and weaknesses. Imports I can't justify. I'm a prison meister, neither can I justify low production costs, it's described as hard to harvest. So go for:
Hipster Cred (10)
Celebrity endorsements (20)
Economical benefits (30)
No negotiation power (25)
Immorality symbol (15)

I only need to harvest, probably some pipeline or farm (-7)
This means the complexity of my product is 1, my revenue 15 and my profit 8.
I'll take the classic Rorch housing (5)
And since I didn't take sands of time life-force crystals for myself (0)
It's not much. Maybe someone with a better product can get a lot more.

how do you guys determine the size of your cyoas?

Now comes the point that we have to decide wether we want to continue to argue with this guy over weather CYOA's should be allowed to let you do evil shit or if we're just going to write him of as a troll.
>I don't understand what you're trying to say here.
Yep, definite troll.

I just don't get it. It seems to me that in your minds, I'm not allowed to criticize this particular CYOA before I go back and do the same for the other ones. If I chose to praise this one for the inclusion of underaged sexual content, would I have to go back and praise all the other ones for the same reason?

Why can't I criticize this particular CYOA for one thing it chose to include without veering off into another discussion entirely?

annie...

how is this even a choice?

It shows the fallibility of your argument because applying it consistently would destroy 70% of the CYOA's out there.
The use of examples is, like, the number one rhetorical technique and if you are sincere about your lack of understanding I invite you to lurk more until you become more familiar with the english language.

Idle hands are a bitch.
Even if you don't act on some ideas why don't you share here for some anonstorming.
Do we even know what happened to thrallherd?

Why can't I take issue with the inclusion of underaged sex? Why can't I isolate my criticism of this to this CYOA or others that contain this content. I don't need to expand my critiquing to fucking giant monsters because they have nothing to do with this conversation. Holy shit. You can criticize a CYOA for having one particular element and not care about the others. That's a thing people are allowed to do.

>The use of examples is, like, the number one rhetorical technique

You mean like examples of other CYOAs that include underaged sex?

Because the fact that something doesn't conform to your personal taste is not a valid criticism. You're taking exception to what is essentially a game of pretend because it allows you to do something that is against the law in your particular country.
What is the actual problem with it?

>And? Why can't I criticize this one? What makes it above criticism?

Well nothing really, but you heavily implied it shouldn't even be allowed to be made with

>I don't think we should be encouraging the abuse of underage and mentally ill girls like this.

A normal person, if he runs into a childfag flapping his gums on the internet who just won't shut the fuck up about how he's a poor oppressed sexual minority, who acts either so out of nowhere or so exceptional, even on a chan, that he has to respond, would have just mocked him, his points, and called him a fucking idiot who should kill himself. What you were proposing, instead of just saying that this shit is creepy and weird (which even I'll admit is a moot point regardless, lolishit is so thoroughly ingrained in this stuff now there's really nothing to do besides ignore it and wait for good shit you've never seen before to be reposted,) was the idea that there should be some kind of community guideline against it, and I really hope I don't have to explain why that's a dangerous fucking road to go down.

>Why does it need to be worse for me to be able to criticize it?

So you're admitting you wanna get rid of evil themed CYOA too.

>I don't understand what you're trying to say here. What does this have to do with me disliking the fact that I take issue with having sex with underage girls?

>me disliking the fact that I take issue with having sex with underage girls

Hoooooooly SHIT that's a Freudian slip if I've ever heard one.

>What about it?

Well, some people might say conflict shouldn't be a thing in settings either; after all, we've created a society that hates conflict and wants to get as far away from it as possible, so having problems might not be good encouragement for that.

And then that balloons and escalates until people go "fuck it," CYOA no longer have points because decision making is too stressful, and they become even more of a glorified excuse to read user's bad fantasy novel.

It's more like criticizing a CYOA on ethical grounds is fucking retarded as most have serious moral implications.

Criticizing something for structure or balance is fair enough as the thing you're talking about could be deficient in some way. Criticizing something because it's morally dodgy in a hive of moral dodginess is a total waste of your time and perhaps this just isn't the place for you.

>The writefaggotry was above average.

The actual problem with promoting sex with minors ? Because unlike summoning fucking giant monsters to rip apart kindergarteners, you can do it in real-life. There's nothing good about promoting the idea that taking advantage of fifteen year old girls is ok.

>So you're admitting you wanna get rid of evil themed CYOA too.

...? How does one follow from the other..?

>Well, some people might say conflict shouldn't be a thing in settings either; after all, we've created a society that hates conflict and wants to get as far away from it as possible, so having problems might not be good encouragement for that.

Conflict is a primary aspect of story-telling and life that isn't really possible to get rid of, unless you mean violent conflict only. Adults having sex with minors isn't.

Right, you can do it in real life, so portraying it in a a work of fiction carries the risk of making people do it.
Get the hell out of here and don't come back.

>There's nothing good about promoting the idea that taking advantage of fifteen year old girls is ok.
The age of consent in most European countries is 14 or 15, in Spain it's 13. Just because something is against the law in some places doesn't mean it should be cleansed from all media. The CYOA is not "promoting" having sex with the 15-year-old any more than it is "promoting" sex with any of the others.
You seem to have a weird hang-up about this one thing that makes absolutely no sense.

Meant for you, , mister.

He's not going to respond, I already told him to leave and never come back.
In the meantime let's play some CYOAs.

>so portraying it in a a work of fiction carries the risk of making people do it.

Consider the following:

Someone who doesn't believe rape is much of an issue in society chooses to take in new information by reading accounts from rape victims about their rapes and how it affected them. Spent a lot of time thinking about these things and seriously considered his/er previous position. Regardless of what conclusion he/she finally reached s/he'd be a different for the experience.

What CYOAs and others like it do is normalize certain ideas. I'm not saying there's a time and place for debate here but the idea that consuming fiction or nonfiction does not affect the mind is simply..inane.

>Spain it's 13

Raised to 16, actually.

My 'hang-up' is because of the serious and long-term effects of young girls having sex with older people.

guttmacher.org/about/journals/psrh/2002/11/sexual-intercourse-and-age-difference-between-adolescent-females-and

>He's not going to respond, I already told him to leave and never come back.

?

>Because unlike summoning fucking giant monsters to rip apart kindergarteners, you can do it in real-life.

A batshit motherfucker who thinks he's the reincarnation of bull frog Jesus can grab a machete and hack his way through kindergardeners just as easily as he can choose to brutally rape them first.

>...? How does one follow from the other..?

You just said

>Why does it need to be worse for me to be able to criticize it?

Which implies you think that they're more or less on the same level of bad, despite all the backpedaling and damage control you're doing.

>Conflict is a primary aspect of story-telling and life that isn't really possible to get rid of, unless you mean violent conflict only. Adults having sex with minors isn't.

So we should avoid talking about it completely?

>unless you mean violent conflict only

So there go all of those CYOA about fun adventures in sci-fi and fantasy worlds, too!

I also noticed you haven't responded to me pointing out that you "dislike the fact that you take issue with having sex with underage girls". Like, you just completely avoided that right there. Maybe instead of projecting your flaws so much, you could take up a hobby to better yourself, in order to help counter that?

/cyoag/: Pedophilia General

Wishful thinking.
You do realize you're not making a difference.
All you're doing is shitting up a thread.

>Which implies you think that they're more or less on the same level of bad, despite all the backpedaling and damage control you're doing.

No, what I meant by the question was that you seemed to be saying that I needed to criticize god-zilla murdering millions before I could criticize this CYOA. I said what I said because I found that line of thinking strange.

>So we should avoid talking about it completely?

I'm taking issue with the normalization of the idea that having sex with underaged girls while you're an adult is ok. That is the crux of my argument. It is not ok and it not be normalized.

>Implying I'm a pedophile.

It was a typo, both of us know that. Argue in good faith or not at all.

>Blessing of Alexander
>England
>1337
Let's do it, lads. Down with Valois!

Your concept of normalisation is a retarded one. FIlms in which the protagonist kills people don't cause the audience to think murder is fun for all the family.

>Your concept of normalisation is a retarded one. FIlms in which the protagonist kills people don't cause the audience to think murder is fun for all the family.

Here is a paper on how the normalization of DV by the media increases the rates of DV.

austinpublishinggroup.com/psychiatry-behavioral-sciences/fulltext/ajpbs-v1-id1018.php

Is that so? How lovely, and unutterably credible.
scholarlyoa.com/2016/03/03/a-true-predator-austin-publishing-group/

>Dungeon Heart
>Imps 3
>Hand of Evil 3
>Minion bond 2

>Arcane library
>Portal
>Training Room
>Lair

>Meido Maleficarum

>Meddlers
>Young keeper
>Micro-piglets
>Use the reward for extra minion points

>Critters x6
>Nasty critters x2
Zerg rush tactic

Because he's not being sincere. He's trying to get a rise out of you. You think he didn't know that paper was BS?

>Someone who doesn't believe rape is much of an issue in society chooses to take in new information by reading accounts from rape victims about their rapes and how it affected them. Spent a lot of time thinking about these things and seriously considered his/er previous position. Regardless of what conclusion he/she finally reached s/he'd be a different for the experience.

Nobody here is saying that actual, real world child molestation isn't fucked up.

>What CYOAs and others like it do is normalize certain ideas. I'm not saying there's a time and place for debate here but the idea that consuming fiction or nonfiction does not affect the mind is simply..inane.

Bullshit, fiction doesn't exist to serve political ideologies. CYOAs exist as a form of entertainment. It's fun. It's a method of escapism. It's purely fantasy. And at the end of the day, that's all it ever will be.

>No, what I meant by the question was that you seemed to be saying that I needed to criticize god-zilla murdering millions before I could criticize this CYOA. I said what I said because I found that line of thinking strange.

Mass murder is objectively worse than rape.

>I'm taking issue with the normalization of the idea that having sex with underaged girls while you're an adult is ok. That is the crux of my argument. It is not ok and it not be normalized.

No shit, child molestation shouldn't be legalized or considered normal. What an amazing revelation. Which is why nobody here has supported that, and just don't like the idea of being told what they can't include in a genre that relies on unbridled creativity to even exist in the first place.

>It was a typo, both of us know that. Argue in good faith or not at all.

I dunno man, who're you trying to prove this to, exactly?

I'd also like to add that, since you want to stop kids from being raped, there are tons of organizations you can join to stop that shit from happening in the real world, and not just in shitty erotica on Veeky Forums.

Reading through this thing, the grammar seems . . . iffy. I mean, I get that I'm a colossal, faggoty grammar nazi, but the phrasing in this thing is just weird.

>Fully grown adults aren't adults because they don't adhere to my image standards.
Okay, Australia.

>Violence against women is a serious social problem. Domestic Violence (DV) is one specific type of violence against women...
Dropped like a brick covered in something gross and unidentifiable.
Domestic violence is a genderless problem, in fact the majority of domestic abuse is same-sex. If the writers of this "article" were aiming for anything other than toting their political agenda, they wouldn't have opened it by twisting the stated subject in such a horriblly jarring way.

>speaks binary fluently

>Mass murder is objectively worse than rape.

Perhaps so, but why can't I discuss one without discussing the other?

>No shit, child molestation shouldn't be legalized or considered normal. What an amazing revelation. Which is why nobody here has supported that, and just don't like the idea of being told what they can't include in a genre that relies on unbridled creativity to even exist in the first place.

Yes, and I'm allowed to criticize it's inclusion. I'm allowed to make use of free-speech too, no?

>Nobody here is saying that actual, real world child molestation isn't fucked up.

It was an example of how consuming media can change how you think.

Still reading that "study" of yours. It's hilariously terrible.
Apparently the fact that some cultures have a negative view of women is relevant to their points about media being able to normalize domestic violence. As are quirks of the russian language. I mean, really?
They seem to be just making shit up and then finding something to cite for it. I might hunt down said citations some time, but you could've at least had the decency to cite actual research. That would've been much more fun to tear apart than this shit.

Ah, I shouldn't have called it a study. My apologies. Paper. Whatever.

Blessing of Pheidippides. Dawn of humanity. My name might not be written in the tome of history, but that's ok. I'm happy to see how much I can shape the world through the aeons.

>Perhaps so, but why can't I discuss one without discussing the other?

Because then that opens up the road that we "need to have a discussion" about it as well, and so on.

>Yes, and I'm allowed to criticize it's inclusion. I'm allowed to make use of free-speech too, no?

You're criticizing the use of free speech.

>It was an example of how consuming media can change how you think.

I don't want it to try and change how I think though.

Barring the exploit of "Pheidippes, anywhere, next year", I'd probably choose Alexander and here and now. I like modern conveniences too much to go back in time, and I can't be sure any year beyond my lifespan (especially if I proselytize science and medicine) won't be a hellish dystopia.

CYOA are not about your fucking deep introspection life changing epiphany nonsense. They're fun imagination games, you armchair psycho.

When done well, they can be introspective.
But this is Veeky Forums.

Crystal heart

Functions
Imps 3
Minion bond 3
Hands of evil 3

Facilities
Leftover treasure (will be sacrificed to fill the dungeon heart with power)
Quarters
Portal
Lair
Library -1

Perks
Indestructible wall
Piece of heart (an organic heart placed beneath the crystal heart, eventually the plan is to make it a magic supply for the real heart, also to get aesthetics one day) -1

MDE
Hunters +3
Rival keeper +3
Divine opposition +2

Minions
Golem *2

The idea is to make a trap and strategy based dungeon with all kind of annoying mechanism that will take extensive knowledge and wit to get past. The Imps are on permanent maintenance and riddle variation duty in which they change the details of how to get past each floor every once in a while based on my specifications and their own input. I’ll personally be sitting close to the heart together with my golems to beat up anyone that gets too close.

Honestly, the only thing that disturbs me about this CYOA is that this organization has the power to permanently imprison people, render major technology useless for them, or prevent them from having any financial autonomy, and will do so for fairly petty crimes.

No, when done well, they're fun to imagine and think about.

You're trying to turn entertainment into a self-help seminar. You're in the wrong.

The real question is why Stephanie doesn't have an anti-alcohol chip.

client01.chat.mibbit.com/?url=irc://irc.rizon.net/cyoa

I get that some people don't want it in the OP but why would this get cut out of the pastebin?

> petty crimes.

I mean it really depends, doesn't it? The hacking especially. Of course cutting her off from the internet is pretty severe but what exactly did she break into? If she broke into a bank and deleted, say, the records then she is a danger. She could also have copied some seriously important info and sold it on the black market. That's not ok either. It really depends on the crimes committed.

That said, I'm not sure Irene's punishment makes complete sense. Why not just bar her from all positions where she'd need to be trusted. Or if you must limit her wealth, then give her a small allowance and not allow her to accumulate more.

99% sure that exploit would just result in you skipping forward a year with no immortality, given that you've by definition reached the present.

You can't distinguish reality from fiction, thus you don't belong on the make belief board.

>having sex with underaged girls while you're an adult is ok
Psst. In almost every country in the world, you can legally have sex with an underaged 16-year-old while being an 18-year-old adult.

>Why else would he want to turn everyone into kids, user?
Why did you ignore the question?
Kids are. Why would you turn everyone into kids, and make it impossible to tell at a glance who is an adult and who is not?
You're not even one of those "wants to be a little boy raped by an older woman" weirdos since you'd turn women into kids, too, so what's your deal?

Blue board bro, what are you thinking?