VAMPIRE WEREWOLVES

In my setting werewolves are not made, they are born. All werewolves are male, and their sons have like a 1 in 5 chance of being werewolves themselves (unless they impregnate their women in werewolf or wolf form, which it then jumps up to 90% and the werewolf in question is deemed an asshole who probably just traumatized his wife unless she's into that kind of thing)

Werepyres are biologically impossible because any werewolf that gets infected with vampirism will experience rapid cell death and die...unless a specific vampire does the infecting.
The specific vampire in question is the vampire royalty, specifically the heir to the True Blood the Queen. She is the only exception to this rule.

This, in the original folklore they were the same fucking thing. In Romania is is referred to as vrolock

>werepyres
Werepyres are people who were bitten by a cursed fire. On the night of a full moon, they turn into bonfires.

Oh right, I forgot their powers
Basically they are even stronger/faster werewolves, though not to the same degree that vampires are stronger and faster than humans and they are also the only vampires that can live in sunlight. They keep their weakness to silver though it is lessened to a degree.

Abnormally, they do not have vampiric fangs in their human form, but in wolf or werewolf form their canines are lengthened.

Oh and one last thing, Werepires are not subject to the blood bond, they cannot be controlled as slaves by their master hence the reason why there is only one of them in the setting.

Long long ago all vampires could make werepires, and since vampires and werewolves were at war they were being made regularly. Small issue there was that the wild and free werepires became a third faction in the war, loyal only to themselves and a threat to both sides. Eventually werewolves and vampires teamed up against the threat and wiped them out, but not before the Queen of the era did a spell that altered the bite of a common vampire (though no one but her knew that stipulation) making it deadly. Werewolves joined with vampires and swore loyalty to their Queen as her trusted royal guard.

Thousands of years and dozens of Queens have passed since and the exception was forgotten, the latest werepire (the first since the ancient war in fact) is a happy accident to the current Queen since he is her trusted bodyguard and secret lover.

>True Blood the Queen. She is the only exception to this rule.

Mary Sue alert!

Read the second bit and eat a dick.

>biologically impossible
>exception to this rule

So what you really meant was "biologically improbable".

They're dead because the high EXP people get from killing them made adventurers too focused on leveling up than sustainability.

>The entire concept is brutally stupid.

Or is it stupidly brutal?

That's not true, they were just super rare and INCREDIBLY fucked. They were wyrm tainted, their souls were broken, werewolves hunyed them, vampires didn't want them, the wyrm didn't even want them since they were so unpredictable. They also weren't easy to make, since werewolves are generally immune to the embrace

They don't

Vampirism is a state of undeath, while lycanthropy is a magical desease.
Undeath makes people immune to deseases, so a werewolf infected with vampirism gets automatically cured from lycanthropy

a vampire werewolf is just a vampire who happened to be a werewolf when alive, but now can't transform and don't have access to any power they had

No.

Vampires were undead bersekers who were mages in life.

Werewolves are either mages tapping power from a magic oak or cursed individuals who are cured if their name is uttered by someone in their presence with the one who spoke their name becomin the new werewolf.

goddamn you are a colossal baiting faggot op

Werevamps are created when a vampire first feed happens to be a were wolf .

Werevamps are never humanoid again, they have great strenght and the ability to invisible, and can be killed only by sunlight or by haveing its heart ripped out and sanctifyed

Forgot pic

>How do werepyres work in your setting, Veeky Forums?
Violently

>Can they exist?
Theoretically

How are they made?
Vampires are basically individuals infected with what can best be summarized as a demonic neurax worm. Werewolves are individuals cursed or blessed, depending on your perception, by various nature spirits or in some cases, by an elaborate polymorphic spell. The "natural" ones are significantly longer lived, more durable, and more magically inclined than the "fakes". Normally they also have a high degree of poison and disease resistant, with most naturals being immune outright. It's possible, however, for an especially strong strain of vamparism to infect a weakened werewolf. What happens to the normal ones can very drastically depending on their patron spirit, pack's bloodline, and personal disposition. They may shrug it off compleatly, assimilate the parasite, go insane, or just drop dead on the spot, mostly the first or last. A synthetic will likely die at some point, due to their artificially altered bodies not being stable enough to handle the shift back to humanity with the parasite still embedded. Risk of going batshit fucking crazy are significantly higher.

What powers have they?
Depends on the bloodline(s).

Even in Dracula, the source of most modern ideas about vampires, he could turn into a wolf.

>Can they exist?
Sure, why not?

>How are they made?
It would be the same way vampires turn any other living creature into a vampire. Feeding them vampire blood as they're dying.

>What powers have they?
Vampire template + werewolf template. All of the powers of both, but also all the weaknesses.

>Can they exist?

no

Seems like this thread would've got more attention than it did.

Nope. Werewolves in my setting are immune to natural and unnatural diseases. Since vampirism is classified as a disease (in my setting) they are fully immune to it, no exceptions.

Yes. They gain the advantages of both races and none of the disadvantages, but have a biological time limit of 26 1/2 hours. The only way to extend this time is to either drain the blood of an innocent (12 hour time boost) or to devour the soul of a angelic or demonic being (3,997,213,920,000 hour time boost). If the angelic soul is devoured they gain many holy powers and abilities plus they permanently try to support the righteous and help the needy. If a demonic soul is devoured they basically become a stronger demon.

That sounds as though it has the ability to go full edge or full sue in a heartbeat.

sounds anime as fuck user

They don't yet, but they can. Just nobody's been awesome enough to pull it off yet.

H'okay, here's how it works.

"Vampire" and "Werewolf" are very broad terms. "Vampires" are undead beings who survive and grow more powerful by drinking blood, and are able to turn that into energy somehow. "Werewolves" are living beings that are infected with some form of lycanthropy and turn into varying degrees of wolves, stronger wolves and wolf-base race hybrids. Lycanthropy is toxic to Vampires and makes them vomit stored blood. That wouldn't be so bad if it didn't also turn all other blood it comes into contact with into werewolf blood.

There are three ways to become a werewolf or vampire, and one of them hasn't been discovered yet. That one is technology. Just hasn't been invented yet, but mankind is close.

The other two are using magic and doing the research yourself, or submitting your soul to gods who are willing to transform you in exchange for eternal servitude. The latter are generally more powerful, but they're also the bitches of capricious beings on the level of Zeus. Or, y'know, Zeus himself, and you just *know* he's gonna take advantage of that. With his penis.

Every werewolf/vampire is different depending on the magic they used or the god they bent over for, which gives rise to the "clans" of each. Note that this means mages can start their own vampire/werewolf clans, customizing their powers as they see fit. As a result, classic vampire/werewolf weaknesses are kind of a crapshoot. For example, silver's a common weakness because the werewolf mages are basing their transformation spell off of the work of predecessors. However, they've tweaked it enough that the degree of weakness is different for each clan. Mages who built it from the ground up may have bypassed it completely. Same goes for vampires, though there's slightly less variation there because they don't die of old age, and teach the spell the way they cast it.

Dracula.

>Dark Souls 4

You're calling medieval and early modern europeans stupid?

>How do werepyres work in your setting, Veeky Forums?

Alot like this

youtube.com/watch?v=iu04hRdIddk

They're wendigos.

Are we just going to ignore this post? Because it's gold. I'm so sick of the "were" part being used as the transformation part.

Bonk

Wait, is this Dance in the Vampire Bund (or something like that)?

What? Nooooooo

Totally ripped them wholesale for my world. No regrets, I love that series.

One of the perks mortals get from becoming one kind of monster is that they can't be turned into any other kind of monster. Still, if you have enough magic and determination anything is possible.

You're not thinking big enough. We need vampire weredragons.

World of Darkness has one: Sobek, the Crocodile God. A mokole (werereptile/dragon/dinosaur) abomination that is the 4th generation childe of Set.

Half-demon vampiric weredragons, while you're at it the other half is angel

*waaaghs internally*

Wrong on all counts, Actual romanian here.

Vampires were at their basest just blood zombies, they rose from their grave went back to their family and drank their blood and then went back to sleep in their grave to rest.

Strigoi were the more Advanced vampires that were basically terrible assholes when they were alive and had invisibility and transformation powers (wolf and bat mostly)

Vampires as mages in real life comes from the legend of Dracula, and the reason he can do all the crazy shit we attribute to vampires now days was because he was a solomonari, like a weather wizard who chills with dragons, But Dracula wasn't just a wizard he was literally a dragonborn His name directly transulates as "of the dragon"

Werewolves were just like basic vampires, spirits risen again from the dead and taking up their old body, and you could become one by being a shitty person or by being bitten by a werewolf OR eating an animal that had been killed by one.

You can also kill a werewolf only for it to come back as a vampire as well; its called a Pricolici

Dropped it after a crazy werewolf raped his trap friend in the ass.

Should have kept reading, Volume 7 is a low point but it jumps back up quickly.

Also when the author gets rid of that faggot friend of Akira's

The beloved children's story "The Beauty and the Beast" was actually based on a young vampire maiden and a Werewolf noble falling in love. The Enchantress that made that Werewolf, being the crazy magic user with no sense of right or wrong that she was, decided to bless their marriage and true love by giving them a child that wouldn't have to choose between being like their mother or like their father.

Thus we have the horrifying hybrid abomination with the weird amount of respect for true love and marriage that we have today.

>I was a teenage werebonfire neet
yfw this manga actually exists
I'm not joking

Can you give us a summarized taxonomy post of all that? It's actually really interesting and having it in post form, a bit more organized than what you have, would be great for reference.

Or I could type it up myself based on your post, but I honestly would rather have the expert handle it so I don't fuck it up. Would be great as a DM resource, if not actually a neat piece of mythology.

Nice.