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LG: Communism
NG: Social democracy
CG: Anarcho-communism/Anarcho-syndicalism
LN: Monarchism/Feudalism
TN: Anarcho-capitalism
CN: Egoist anarchism
LE: Fascism
NE: Plutocracy/Technocracy
CE: Survivalism/Illegalism

>Communism
>LG ever

>Lawful
check
>Good
>"from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"
How is that not LG? I dislike both communism and that alignment, but they go very well together.

Communism in its ideal / final form would indeed be Lawful Good utopia society. The thing is we never had true Communism anywhere in the world but usually Socialism that claimed to be heading towards Communism.
Whether true Communism can even be reached at all is up to the debate, I'm personally leaning towards no. That's the problem with utopias, the final state looks promising but there's always some catch getting there.

Because it ignores people's happiness and choices. If you're great at shoemaking and okay at baking, but baking's what makes you happy, then optimal use of your ability will make you miserable.

It's Lawful, but not good.

This is bait if I've ever seen it.

Go on, explain to me what I got wrong
Lawful Good isn't very nice though, it favors the majority and maintains cohesion according to a set of values (law).

> Dr.Perky
I feel gross.

> Implying practice, existing cultures, legislation, leaders and individuals within the government don't effect this more then the government type itself.
Fucks sake people.

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Any ideology does that. Human beings are and always will be so long they remain baseline human, nonrational, nepotistic social animals, not individualists that work according to someone's ideology.

>chaotic neutral
>"I'm lawful evil"
I don't understand.

b-but i personally disagree with those political ideals! they're all evil faggots!

Communism doesn't stop people from having hobbies, and if shoemaking truly makes you miserable, you would never have gotten great at it. Sure, there are edge cases who won't be happy(and certainly many people won't achieve their maximum possible happiness), but that's the case no matter how you arrange the society. I would argue that for most people, society arranged according to communist principles would be better than most alternatives. Besides, lawful good is all about looking at the big picture for the principles that are best for the majority, not about trying to make everyone happy.

Most people in real life will never get their dream job and will be miserable their entire lives. You have to pay your bills somehow.

the joke is that most chaotic neutral people are actually playing evil aligned characters as per their choices

You mean those people who confuse CN for chaotic stupid/evil?

yeah

To be fair, there's literally no difference between neutral evil and chaotic neutral
Also chaotic evil is just chaotic neutral having a bad day

Neutral Evil spotted.

They may be similar, but NE is much more willing to do evil shit and/or has evil goals. Unless you play with shitheads who are chaotic "neutral" because evil alignments are banned.

Explain the difference then, because I never understood it. Chaotic neutral does whatever they want and what benefits them; neutral evil does exactly the same thing. Chaotic evil does what they want and also acts like an asshole unnecessarily, it's the same thing as their neutral counterpart except they behave like assholes.
>NE is much more willing to do evil shit
If it benefits them, otherwise they probably won't. Just like CN.

t(-__-t)

>If it benefits them, otherwise they probably won't. Just like CN.

Sorry, but you're wrong. Chaotic neutral may occasionally do evil shit, but if they do evil constantly or act like ends justify means, they're not neutral any more. If you're playing a neutral character who doesn't think twice before performing an evil act, you're playing neutral wrong. Meanwhile, if NE character needs to do something evil to accomplish his goals, he'll never even stop to consider alternatives.

Lawful Evil gets the shit done.

So does chaotic evil. Where's our medal for solving the problem?

>if they do evil constantly
As long as they don't constantly do evil *unnecessarily*, they're still CN. Otherwise they're CE.
>ends justify means
Most alignments can act like that, for various reasons. It's not exclusive to NE.
>doesn't think twice
So, if they feel remorse, they're chaotic neutral, and if they don't, they're neutral evil? It also depends on the circumstances, you know.

sitting on the pile of dead babies

>he doesn't want to talk about ideas
>he wants to talk about PEOPLE

>As long as they don't constantly do evil *unnecessarily*, they're still CN. Otherwise they're CE.
Evil act is an evil act, no matter how "necessary" you think it is. Ends absolutely don't justify means, and if you constantly do evil acts, you're evil, full stop. Doesn't matter how noble or Good your goal is.

Spoken like a true lawful good.
CN can alternate between evil and good acts without putting much thought into it as long as it benefits him ("I just felt like doing it" counts as self-interest)

Lot less images than I expected.

The ends do not justify the means, and it is only villains who take that path. There is wrong and there is right, and nothing in between.

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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Being evil is easy. If you perform evil acts, you're evil. If you have evil goals, you're evil. Obviously there's some leeway(and for that matter, the degree of evil matters), but you can't burn down multiple orphanages "on a whim" and still stay neutral.

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What if you have no "ends" and just do what you want?
And you're wrong, there are lots of cases where the "right" thing requires doing something evil. Yet it's still the right thing.

>you can't burn down multiple orphanages "on a whim"
Which is why I said CE is just NE or CN + asshole. CN or NE probably wouldn't feel the need to burn an orphanage in the first place.

Neutral is when you don't lean towards good nor towards evil, when you don't concern yourself with that. Above all else, NE and CN are inherently selfish, but unlike CE, it doesn't mean they'll go out of their way to torture civilians "because they can".

Jacky?

>Above all else, NE and CN are inherently selfish, but unlike CE, it doesn't mean they'll go out of their way to torture civilians "because they can".

No alignment is inherently selfish. CN character can easily be a freedom fighter dedicated to the ideals of liberty, who just happens to go a bit too far in pursuit of those ideals to qualify as Chaotic Good. Ditty for CE, except replace "a bit" by "a LOT".

>No alignment is inherently selfish
NE is. You're right about CN, although they tend to be motivated by self-interest most of the time.

>It's another "chaotic = individualism" post
I don't really blame you, though. The whole system's fucked.

>Fascism and Technocracy are evil
By what fucking metric? Evil in D&D is usually described as selfishness, neither fascism nor technocracy are anything close to that

Fucking lolbercuck propaganda all over this thread

Even NE character can be dedicated to some greater ideal, whether that's dark god, bringing about an apocalypse or something Good twisted and perverted into an obsession that justifies any course of action, no matter however vile.

Chaotic = freedom. Freedom implies individualism.

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>it's another CN vs NE discussion

>what is anarcho-communism
>what is spooky humanist liberalism

>Best Alignments are all Lawful
As to be expected.

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>Antisemites
>Evil
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I can't tell if I support individuals or collectives.

I don't like authority when it bans ppl for "muh feels" or otherwise spends its efforts being no fun allowed.

but I am a-ok with slavery and controlling people, so long as it's for some productive end

How do I tell which side I'm on?

I disagree that it favors the majority. It favors rights, justice, and truth. Lawful good would not condone redistribution according to mere need because it is a system which strives for virtue. I imagine tat a lawful good society would provide certain avenues fornthe viceful to become virtuous, thereby showing mercy, within limits, so as to not punish the virtuous for the benefit of the vicious.

You just belong to another tribe or people. Like everyone.

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Biggest mind-fuck I ever read.

>pic related

I dont think it is a good idea to apply alignments to societies because they were originally designed for individuals. Lawful = honor, truth, duty, chaos= relativism, whim, arbitrariness, Good = benevolence, respect for life and dignity, evil = lacking respect for life and dignity, malevolence, using others as tools.

Hard to say chaotic society= individualism because a lawful society believes in principles of justice which uphold individual rights. Chaos is closer to mob rule than individualism. Like if you say to a judge "my rights" and the judge laughs, you live in a chaotic society.

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Is that a dare? I will take it as a dare.
dynasty-scans.com/series/nickelodeon

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Wouldn't chaos in a society be those at the top governing themselves and only themselves, leaving those at the bottom to fend for themselves?

I mean, a government that actively maintains an classist divide and uses its guards to incite fear when they need obedience but otherwise don't care about the people/

That's still lawful evil, but it's the best kind of lawful evil.

B^U

Can someone tell me where I can find further reading abou the other factions of the SCP 'verse?
The only one I recognise is the factory.

My favorite SCP fic is "The Cool War", featuring the Are We Cool Yet? faction.

what's the difference between chaotic and true neutral?
I understand most alignments but TN is a bit of a mystery to me.

>NG
>libertarian
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no. libertarians are the deepest corner of the CE box.

CN is more impulsive
TN is more passive

This is bait right? I can't tell for sure but think the misspelling of the file name confirms it.

that's all? TN just plans father ahead or something?

The image might be but the filename is just me making typos.

These images are very old so don't ask for my motivation for saving them. It's from another age.

That's the simplified version.
And yeah, either that or TN doesn't plan at all, but not in the sense that it would do things on a whim but rather that it only responds to circumstances and has little agenda of its own.

>That's the simplified version.
are there any other differences aside from the impulsiveness?
I feel like TN is hardly used for anything else than animals and stupid mooks.

The situation you describe is complex but yes it seems more chaotic (neutral evil) than lawful. If authority is applied according to whim, this is chaotic.
Caring is not necessarily significant for determining alignment. A chaotic evil can care when it suits their needs and a lawful good doesnt have to care for everyone.

Regardless whether you meant to bait or not, seeing Machiavelli as True Neural got me.

Get your alignments here!
seventhsanctum.com/generate.php?Genname=ralign
(first alignment listed is your alignment)

I don't understand why people make alignments to be entirely different categories, like they're unique or something. They're all just points on a sliding scale. Chaotic Neutral is less concerned about following the unwritten rules of society. It's more okay with fighting dirty, going back on its word, and generally being underhanded (but not being outright nefarious, as that's the realm of evil).

For its part, True Neutral isn't some zen spot of balance, or some zone of apathy, or whatever. It's merely more selfish than Neutral Good but less ruthlessly self-serving than Neutral Evil. It cares more about behaving honorably than Chaotic Neutral, but less than Lawful Neutral.

>Chaotic Cute

>Chaotic Naive
s-shut up!

>Chaotic Sloppy

Bland Evil

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>Fashionable evil.

Weird Neutral

>Overworked Evil
too real, man, too real