Inhuman Child Labor

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It's Monster Musume, isn't it? Aka "Daily Life With Monstergirl".

>play low int character w/ bad wis
>Na, she's probably grown up

NO problems

Child labour was bread and butter in the past. There's literally nothing wrong with having her, unless she's like age 6 in giant years.

Any parent who would, through lack of supervision, permit their daughter to wander out far enough to fall into our party's clutches simply does not love the girl. Fact. And that being said it's debatable who's company she's better off in.

Secondary to that, what exactly is our party messing with? Sometimes it's immoral to shove an AK-47 into the hands of 6 year old and tell them to paint the town red...... and sometimes one would suppose it kinda "is" moral to do just that. Being an adventurer typically entails going around looking for trouble and committing a shitload of murder, so letting a stupid kid tag along to help us gut the world because they enjoy it isn't all that far off the moral compass. It might even be considered a source of character development for the lass.

A large number of characters are juveniles as well. You can create a character as young as 15 in a lot of systems, which is a juvenile as well. They may not be making the best decisions, but by a lot of standards, the character is still responsible for themselves.

Now if we are talking much younger - going through puberty, for example - then it would be understandable to be more concerned about their welfare. But if the character is that young, it really should come across by the way they act and handle situations. It should not come across as that much of a surprise to anyone who has spent a lot of time with them.

Her warmth is dangerous.

Find a wizard who can magic her mind to mental maturity. Ask her what she wants.
Possibly attempt to acquire talloli gf.

idgi

physically their body looks like your average humanoid adult just larger and with a youthful face
mentally they have the decision making and thought processes of a 10 year old... so easily mistakable for your basic fighter
she has armor (giants love to forge and encumbrance ain't no thing to them) and weapons (natural damage reduction) because that's typical of them regardless of age

Unless you have no method of communicating with them, you should be able to identify the difference between a shy pouting child and a shitty DMPC brooding edgelord. Or an overeager suicidal berserker and a naive playful prepubescent.

If you can't tell the 10 year old giant from the 45 year old human fighter, then either your fighter is mentally retarded or you just aren't paying attention to anything.

Got anymore like this?

Here's one.

Just get her killed for good treasure and bounce before her parents find her.

I'd not suppose it inconceivable for a party encountering a strange massive woman warrior with a weirdly childlike air to assume they were some sort of demihuman hybrid, or simply a highly eccentric wanderer.

Being aware of giants in the area might tip them off more than anything, if they're unaware of a local giant population they would have less reason to put two and two together.

I'd still be DTF
Fuck ya'll soft faggot

loli giantess pussy

Putting defenseless innocents in unnecessary danger is "not good". If you are willing and able to lift a weapon and strike out, you are not defenseless.

>physically incapable of harming them
>hindsight on their part when older is that you took advantage of them
its sick and wrong, but not that bad which makes it all the more sick and wrong

>If you are willing and able to lift a weapon and strike out, you are not defenseless.
yeah, but the character doesn't fully know the consequences of their actions
it's exactly like a kid playing with a gun and giving them the go ahead as long as they point it at people you don't like

You can't do this in dnd 5e

Nobody gives a fuck about children when you have 14 to spare.

the fuck is wrong with her feet?

Liefeld

>Can you allow, what basically is, a child to serve as the parties beat stick / meat shield
Of course!
> Isn't that a "not good" act putting a kid in danger?
Probably.
>What do you do when her much taller parents show up?
That depends what they're looking to do.

>giantess anything
if the real world was anything like what OP's hypothetical situation is, i would not have lived this long.

>y liv

Same here

>A drider that didn't have eight children
I'm more upset by this than I should be, especially considering I don't even like monstergirls the way Veeky Forums is nuts for them.

If giants have the same proportions as humans at the equivalent stages of their life, you would still be able to tell a giant was a child if they were younger than the equivalent of at most a precocious 11 year old. Children have different body shapes, proportions, limb lengths, etc. than adults do, and sexual dimorphism is much less pronounced. Unless the children of giants have the same proportions as a human adult, not even mentioning that they would have to carry themselves in the same way as an adult (people start carrying themselves very differently during and after puberty), then nobody who has spent significant time around children is going to think this is an adult unless they have reason to believe there is something badly wrong with this "adult".

Idk, ive seen 12yo that looked like small adults and not large kids

>If giants have the same proportions as humans at the equivalent stages of their life, you would still be able to tell a giant was a child if they were younger than the equivalent of at most a precocious 11 year old. Children have different body shapes, proportions, limb lengths, etc. than adults do, and sexual dimorphism is much less pronounced. Unless the children of giants have the same proportions as a human adult, not even mentioning that they would have to carry themselves in the same way as an adult (people start carrying themselves very differently during and after puberty), then nobody who has spent significant time around children is going to think this is an adult unless they have reason to believe there is something badly wrong with this "adult".
Heavy enough armor could prevent it but it'd have to be an absurd degree

So people other than me HAVE seen it.

I think you could get away with it better if you were running something like Ironclaw. A couple of failed spot checks and a party of Rabbits might hire a teenage Fox and Feline.

I thought I was the only one.The show would be better if they cut out a lot of the akward pervert stuff, either way I'm waiting for season two

Diane is best girl

>never fukkin even heard of this shit, anime or manga
>bored on netflix looking for something to watch
>netflix original series, theres an anime
>netflix original anime, you wut?
>it's not that original to netflix but is breddy okay
>shows up on Veeky Forums like a week later

>spoiler
damn straight.

Being "able" to wield a weapon implies you know how to NOT fuck up with it.

Shrek is an ogre who lives (lived?) in a swamp.

user, that "awkward perv stuff" is the heart and soul of anime and like 1/3 of Meliodas's character

Also, Jericho best girl.

>Jericho best girl
Good taste

Then that's presupposing that a child is your brand of able. I'm inclined to think she wouldn't be.

>7.63 MB
That gif is still too big, man.

>What do you do when her much taller parents show up?
If they're giants, they'd probably be proud.

Bullshit, if that were Liefeld's style, it would look more like this.

kek

>Can you allow, what basically is, a child to serve as the parties beat stick / meat shield? Isn't that a "not good" act putting a kid in danger?
We had a literal kid in Shadowrun.
>slave in 3rd world ore mines
>loaded with crappy ware with no regard for life past early teens
>picked up during a raid by rival corp as "evidence"
>attended couple court hearing
>afterwards dropped at the street with a pittance of "reparation money"
>ware partially failing, partially fucking up unable to follow bodily growth
>Mr. Johnson shows up, offers kid job that will pay for getting it fixed / replaced
Worked fine. Kid was neither the softest nor the most jaded character in the gang.

Needs more pouches and less spine.

We already have one child fighting in our party. Having another one won't change much.

I mean, you're average adventuring party is already a bunch of career looters and murderers. What's a little child labor thrown into the mix?

kids stick fight all the fucking time
giants, by magic or supernatural law, are pound for pound stronger and tougher then a regular sized human proportionally or the square-cube law would crush them

thus she's already stronger and tougher than a basic humanoid
that raw strength and innate durability (plus heavy plate) beats out swordsmanship in almost any conflict

>Literal child soldier
>Good

RIP in peace Mitch

Not to mention that, since she's a kid, most of what she knew would probably be from watching others fight and trying to mimic what she saw them doing. So she'd come off as self-taught and strong enough to back it up.

Your moral compass is very, very skewed. I am deeply concerned you think the things you said are in any way ethical.
>Any parent who would, through lack of supervision, permit their daughter to wander out far enough to fall into our party's clutches simply does not love the girl.
No. Just no.

A moral compass can't be skewed since morality is not objective and no one was talking about ethics to begin with.

>no one was talking about ethics to begin with
>Isn't that a "not good" act putting a kid in danger?

would you say that they aren't for you?

That's a moral judgement not an ethical one.

So many animals died for that suit

>That's a moral judgement not an ethical one.
Google the definition of ethics, please.

the meat, and bones for that matter, didn't go to waste

One point of contention I think is how old is OP's "juvenile"?

IMHO, if she's 14, that's fine. This isn't some first world civilization, but a world where people deal with their issues by slaying each other until problem solved.

But if she's 6, probably not morally correct. But that's up to your party members and their alignment.

so long as she keeps an eye on that fucking warlock, we're cool
I should probably tell the bard before he sleeps with her, but not before he tries
As for the parents? I'm a cleric, that's as good as having Pelor Himself watching over her!

Ethics are the principles that morals are based off of. By that, morals are the individual's interpretation of the actual principles of right conduct, which is the definition of ethics. So, yes, it is a moral judgment, as is your own.

>Can you allow, what basically is, a child to serve as the parties beat stick / meat shield?
Sure.
Ethics, Morals, and Rights aren't something adventurers need to be concerned with. Just accept quests, win combat encounters, get loot and exp.

>What do you do when her much taller parents show up?
Lure them to some place where we have combat advantage then roll initiative.
If we kill her parents, then we become her parents.

>mentally they have the decision making and thought processes of a 10 year old...
Eh, we allow women and blacks in adventuring parties nowadays. I'm sure that is Optional: decision-making power, abstract reasoning, and thought process.

Do children even have sexual dimorphism? I don't notice it, except in their scents/smells, and even then it's nowhere near as obvious as the difference in, say, a dominant male and a submissive male.

I disagree.

Defenseless innocents can still be a danger with their voice and what they are able to convince others to do.
Defenseless innocents can also have special privileges under the law that they can leverage over the common man (e.g. control of currency), so even if they are defenseless when alone, they become dangerous in a system.
Defenseless innocents are also able to act as baby factories for producing well-armed warriors, and sometimes it's more efficient to cut the problem off at the source.

I agree with you that defenseless innocents who are uninvolved with the conflict/problem, should be kept out of danger. But it's important to put limits on how far being a defenseless innocent can protect you.

>it's exactly like a kid playing with a gun and giving them the go ahead as long as they point it at people you don't like
So long as it's not my kid, I fail to see the issue.
They hurt themselves with the gun? eh, not my kid, no big loss.
They hurt the people I don't like? fuck yeah! I even have plausible deniability.

If it were my own kid tho I'd make sure they knew how to handle a firearm without breaking their wrists/shoulder with the recoil, and also how to properly fire a gun i.e. not break it by being a dumbfuck, since chances are it's my gun they're playing with.

Oh ok.
I'm not really into the whole "ethics" "morals" thing. It always seemed to me as just arbitrary barriers people erect between themselves and getting shit done, and I didn't see the point in doing that.

>morals and ethics seem like an arbitrary barrier to raw, unaltered, self-oriented pragmatism
>seeming lack of empathy
That doesn't seem like a healthy mental state you're sporting, there. Maybe you should go talk to a psych?

empathy, like altruism, is a technique to garner reciprocity. the over man has no need of the charity of others or the use of society as a crutch to prosper. thus those behaviors are discarded

>adorable gigantic child needs a temporary normal sized guardian
>kissing booboos that would be fatal to a normal human
>trying to teach them about roughness and gentleness without getting murdered
>having to search the entire forest for monsters before they'll sleep
>being hugged with both hands and called "small mommy"

HHNNNNNNNGGGG

t. Kindergarten teacher

I thought it was illegal for guys to be kindergarten teachers

>mentally they have the decision making and thought processes of a 10 year old
No. She going home. I am NOT going to deal with a 7'0'' ten year old with PTSD. That is not on the fucking menu. That shit will not fucking fly.
Ten years old, she's only just getting an idea of how mortality works, ten years old she still believes in Giant Santa Claus and the Easter Lop.
We are not taking someone at such a stage in their life and taking them to a goddamn combat zone.

society of overmen

hey that's a really fascinating discussion on why we don't need empathy. almost made me forget to stab you in the back so I could loot your corpse, almost.

Not illegal, but you've got a snowball's chance in hell as a guy

As a grill I can't say I'm completely unbiased

The few male kindergarten teachers I've heard about all turned out to be pedos.

Women nurture little children, it's just instinct. Men protect and provide for them.

10/10 would play.

>Can you allow, what basically is, a child to serve as the parties beat stick / meat shield? Isn't that a "not good" act putting a kid in danger?
Consider the mindset of the various nations and paramilitary organizations that use child soldiers.

Are you implying brave young boys aren't worthy of being soldiers in the glorious people's democratic republican liberation united socialist resistance front rally allied force patriotic union for the future of Ngunduland?

Cockroach traitor

Depends on a country, here in slavlands they let pretty much anyone do the job, because it's underpaid as hell and nobody want to take it,

I can only imagine the fun

>teacher tell us a story!
>"once upon time, boy go in woods and get eaten by bear. end."

You mean like United States?

You know, that's basically TL;DR of most children tales we have. Except sometimes it's eaten by fox or wolf, drowned by vodyanoy or kidnapped by gypsy.

>without being able to imagine others pain i'll have a free pass to harm them

let me guess, you're the same type that goes "we need cops around or i'd rape everyone"

Anywhere on Veeky Forums there's a pretty good chance that the poster will be male, yes.

oh, yes, i almost forgot that it's only men that rape

Moral of Slavic fairy tales

Life is shit, then you die

Little kids handle mortality just fine. When Mr. Hooper died, Sesame Street didn't hide it. They just sraight up said it, Big Bird got sad, and life went on.

Would not exist, even if there were many overmen.
Overmen don't need anything from each other, they'd basically all be hermits that don't interact with each other.

>the over man has no need of the charity of others or the use of society as a crutch to prosper.
Do you grow your own food? No? Ok, clearly you need society.

not before approaching puberty.
now, the age does vary, but "on average" you could say that anything below 9 years old could be very difficult to tell without actively checking genitals (you monster).

That said my older sister apparently needed a bra by age 8, while I still could be mistaken for a little boy around 13.

Not one of the male teachers in the last 15 years on our entire schoolboard has turned out to be into little kids. There are *tons* of educators, and yes, plenty of guys like kids; There's such a thing as fathers (at least outside of shitty ghettos anyways) and older brothers for example.

However, proven innocent and accused are *not* the same thing at all most especially when it comes to pedophilia, where the mere accusation is enough to uproot your whole damn life.

The lack of male teachers in the lower grades is one of the reasons male children have been doing steadily worse; not only by a lack of role-models in education, but also because male teachers are more likely to tolerate young male behaviors.

Like fucking running around. Or wanting to learn in a method OTHER than "SIT DOWN. SHUT UP. SHUT THE FUCK UP, AND COPY THESE HERE NOTES", which has been demonstrably proven to be just about the worst way of teaching boys that you can do. The near-removal of anything rough or stimulating in recess or gym has also proven detrimental, landing those kids on fucking ritalin even though they're not hyperactive, they're fucking 7 year olds who are SICK of fucking standing in line or sitting and not moving the fuck around!

Boys doing badly in school due to this are labeled "underachievers" or "lazy" or "dumber" than girls.

Men have nuturing instincts as well. They nurture a little differently, with different lessons and foci, but no less valuable to the children that they teach.

As an example, waaay back, my Geography and Ecology teacher (he did both) would give us hands-on experience with local flora and fauna, the latter of which were things he'd caught in the woods that weekend or the like. Most girls in the class were disgusted, but the boys were absorbing the material at breakneck pace.

The girls were not called out as "lazy" or "underachievers" though. He was instead chewed out for teaching in a "sexist" way.

I'm Neutral Evil, so I manipulate her into becoming my willing damage sponge.