Quests were 8% of Veeky Forums. That is nothing. That is so little that you could have easily ignored every quest...

No one knows.

isn't suptg archiving or going to archive /qst/ making this a nonissue?

CYOA image dumps are /b/ shit, and writefagging that has nothing to do with games doesn't belong on the traditional GAME board.

Also, you're a god damned liar, "8%", fuck you. Plus it's not even like you can't do quests, you have a whole damn board for it, you should be happy

I think you should give it some time before deciding that it'll repress new quests and that it won't work out. New boards always have an initial period of chaos before things settle into place.

I don'd to get off the ground. Maybe you have 0 interest in quest threads but then st care that much either side of the issue, but what I often here cited is that by putting quest threads on their own board they won't get the passerby traffic they neeuddenly one catches your eye. I know that's what happened to me with Dungeon Quest (I think. We played as a skeleton liberating other skeletons from their fleshy prisons and made skeletron.) I would not have found that enjoyment if there was a quest board back then because I have 0 interest in quests in general.

>8%
Yeah, if you stick a 0 at the end

/qst/ doesn't have an archive and the board is bugy as hell

I don't think it changes all that much, though they really fucking dropped the ball by not giving the sup/tg/ guy prior warning.

>/qst doesn't have an archive
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html
boards.Veeky Forums.org/qst/archive

Not the issue. And its not me "deciding", its showing itself even now.

Fixing the archive does not fix the problem, because the problem is based on the lurker contingent of the board.

Basically:
New quests are entierly dependent on the boards lurker content to get off the ground. Since theres no one enjoying subjects like. e.g. 40k, lurking about, theres no one to jump into a 40k themed quest. problem self exacerbates over time.

No lurkers = no new quests = dead board.

"Giving it a go/try/time" does not fix this inherent problem.

Quests don't even run on consecutive days or even weeks man. I don't see what the problem is here if they're only around at specific times of the month.

I don't really hang around Veeky Forums much anymore, but I remember sometime between 2011 and 2014, quest threads were filling up a large portion of the front page and a decent portion of the catalog. These threads also have higher activity, pushing other threads lower on the board and making them difficult to get coverage. It became more difficult to find threads about specific systems, stories of games people have played, discussions on worldbuilding, or how to actually play in general.

This was especially a problem before the existence of the catalog. Veeky Forums's bread and butter threads moved slow enough in relation to quest threads that often refreshing the front page led to seeing several quest threads, a couple of troll threads, an elf slave what do thread that might as well have been stickied, and maybe one or two typical threads.

We can't do anything about troll threads other than report and delete those when they arrive. However, /qst/ threads, since most people using them are not here to reduce the board quality intentionally, can be encouraged to move to a different board to better facilitate them. Also, quest threads have began to invade other boards as well, such as /v/, /k/, Veeky Forums, and a few others. Why not consolidate them onto a single board that better holds them?

Okay, I can see the problem. But I don't think that quests threads inherently deserve to get "advertisement space" so to speak on a popular board. Or else the same could be argued about any creatively minded thread on smaller boards, that they should get space in the catalog on bigger boards just to catch up new contributors. What makes quest threads a special case in that regard?

I'd rather not continually see new quest threads, even if it's ones that interest me because I don't hop on Veeky Forums to do them. When I'm looking for fun games with Veeky Forums, then I seek them out directly.

The creation of a /qst/ board helps facilitate that. Clutter is reduced on Veeky Forums, and people who want to play in quests can easily find them.

You seem upset.

>8%0

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A good chunk of the people already creating quests on Veeky Forums have been active users in those boards. I'm not saying seniority should count towards them though, I am saying that it is unreasonable to have that particular portion of Veeky Forums members move to another board just because they make quests.

If the quests in question are relevant to Veeky Forums, or any board for that matter, interests then it is no different than telling art threads or draw threads on one of these boards to just make their own board. They exist already, they are not going away, and moving them to another board is just shifting blame and responsibility.

Quest threads are numerous, but not something that should be considered abhorrent in their current state. Their quality differs, and their users differ, but that doesn't mean that we should segregate them to their space. It's just unfair.

>I am saying that it is unreasonable to have that particular portion of Veeky Forums members move to another board just because they make quests.
It's not like you can't browse two boards simultaneously

Thats fine and utterly your choice of activity. Quest threads dont take up much space and rarely post more than 1 thread a week per quest. Considering the number of Veeky Forums Quest masters, thats very few threads over the total in a week. They just have fast internal activity.

Quest threads attract people from the board because the board has people interested in their subjects. It is, by and large, that boards content, just that its in a game like format.

Good ones survive, bad ones die, just like discussion threads in that regard. Quests have been shuffled off the board, despite having been here 90% of the boards history, because of a relatively vocal few who dislike them. They are easy to ignore these days. Very few questers wanted the new board.

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This is not some big invasion of out of boarders, though we do get that every now and then. These are Veeky Forums people.

I'll point out that you can continue to create Quests on Veeky Forums, and I encourage people to do so. /qst/ is crap.

I personally believe Worldbuilding threads don't belong here either because they're about bunch of autists circlejerking their shitty fantasy heartbreaker settings that they're never going to use that are utterly divorced from anything to do with actually playing or running a game.

So you admit, quest makers are just selfish parasites

New quest board suppresses the medium and kills variety. Not a case of browsing two boards at once.

>quests get so popular they get their own board
>questfags actually complaining about getting an entire board dedicated to their shit.

Im not even surprised questfags have always been retarded.

Oh boy, time for my favorite game: False Flag, or Actual Questfag?

This is not mentioning that a good majority of Quest readers are just going to follow their favourite content providers to the end and rarely pick up a new content maker.

You mean, just like everyone who posts in a board relevant to their subject to attract other posters?
Yes? And?
I mean, unless you like having a private chat with yourself all the time, in which case you might have a point.

Well, if you put the content here instead of on /qst/ then it'd stand to reason that the place won't be very good.

Also, if you grab a hammer and smash your kneecaps it's going to be pretty painful to walk. I'm not sure it's the best response to mom telling you to go outside though.

We need a /meta/ board now

Quests are forum games, not traditional games. CYOAs, civ threads, evo threads, risk threads, and all other games played over the forum are forum games. There's no reason you shouldn't be able to enjoy these types of threads, they're just not traditional games, so they don't belong on the traditional games board.

>risk is a board game so it belongs
If you're discussing the finer points of the board game then the thread belongs on Veeky Forums. If you're playing a game of risk via forum posts that makes it a forum game, so it's not Veeky Forums.

>/qst/ is too dead, look at all these dead threads!
That's because a ton of quests are still being hosted on Veeky Forums. There have been some 70 quest threads in the past week many of which have netted several hundred posts. /qst/ will never be active until you, the posters who make and participate in quests, use it. Also, Hiro or whoever made the board, is an idiot for making it the narrow scope of /qst/ - Quest rather than the wider scope of /fg/ - Forum Games.

Define 'popular'?

>Bait, the baiting
>Why is it bait? Its the truth! trololol
>Not reading the thread.
Much discussion, many wow.

It's called /qa/

Popular enough that there of dozens of threads with thousands of replies

It's not suppressing the medium, it's giving it a home. If quests don't survive on their own, that just means they weren't good enough

>false flag

#collaborativegamergate #notyourshield

Thats pretty much suppressing the medium right there.
Taking something that is quite happy and alive as it is, and putting it in a place were its going to die. Slowly, painfully, but death all the same.

Unless you have another definition of suppressing something.

Quests are not relevant to Veeky Forums, they are glorified stories and divorced from the concept of being a game

>thousands of replies
Bump limit says otherwise.

Also, not even the reason they started /qst/.

Tell that to /i/.

This is why I keep telling questfags that they need to just keep posting wherever the kept posting.

Ignore /qst/, and it will go away just like other /s/hit tier boards.

>Quests were 8% of Veeky Forums

Even if this is true - and I'd love to know how you figured that out - but even if this is true, why does it matter? In what world is it a bad thing for quests to have their own dedicated board?

Choose the actions you take, roll for effectiveness, write about it.

Basically the same medium as dnd and most role playing games, with the unique caveat of group playing a single character.

Draw threads also need to go, there are two whole boards for that stuff.

Doesn't matter. I agree with the sentiment, but he's still being a salty little faggot either way and this thread helps nobody.

Fuck off to your containment board, questfag.

>and putting it in a place were its going to die.

/mlp/ and /vp/ both flourish as boards, so I'm not certain that's even sort of true.

Except that not everyone was happy. It was people posting off topic shit being happy at the expense of people using it for the intended purpose.

If you just want traffic, go make a thread on /b/, they'll give you traffic

>>they are glorified stories
>here's my greentexted story of something that happened in an unspecified system game, except it never happened
>make up stories about 'that guy'
>single line of greentext, anime image
Are you really saying that an interactive story with game mechanics and player input is less Veeky Forums than the above?

This has already been argued in the thread, please read the thread before posting.

Basically the argument is that quest threads don't have enough appeal to drive a board on their own, they need to piggyback off of an actual discussion board to get contributors.

Unfortunately, they made up that 8% which was the entire first page
and they were so fucking cringey that i'm just glad theyre gone

/i/ works exactly as intended. Slow is not dead.

>Quest rather than the wider scope of /fg/ - Forum Games
This. The irony is that they did it to protect the userbase that currently is on Veeky Forums, and they refuse to try the new board.

>Quests were 8% of Veeky Forums. That is nothing. That is so little that you could have easily ignored every quest, even on a bustling day. This is an irrefutable fact.

Its a bait thread really.

/mlp/ and /vp/ has entire topics full of discussion. Even if its ponyporn or whatever goes on over there. End result: lurkers who join new threads and post new content. Quests do not do this. It's 1 person (the OP) who makes the content, and people jump in to join/contribute in small ways, very rarely going on to make a new quest of their own, very rarely jumping into other quests, because it is very unlikely to be even remotely simular in content.

Then they don't deserve to exist

I don't care about quests, but I'm apprehensive about Hiro ending up fragmenting the site until every niche topic and it's dog's favorite niche topic has it's own board like 2ch.

#wearethe8%

shut up and kill yourself
this absolutely needed to happen

>33 IPs
>15 phone users

You mean the unique caviat of there not being any real rules and the entire story being decided by the author

Yup

So what your saying is, every thread type needs a board, and then if none of these boards can survive on their own, it should all just die?
Good idea user. Very think, much wow.

>Basically the argument is that quest threads don't have enough appeal to drive a board on their own

I don't understand how this could possibly be true. Everyone who participated in a quest thread is fully aware of the quest board and can go there with one single click.

Yeah, I sure hope we never live to see an /a/ split

Same with art threads, fantasy discussion threads, any kind of fantasy video game thread, any new kind of video game news for warhammer & 40k, fantasy anime threads, and role playing threads.

Anything else I may have missed guys?

actually the argument is quest threads don't have enough appeal to drive a board of their own, but questers have no proof of this and refuse to participate in the most direct experimenton the subject because they've already internalized their own unfounded argument.

if /qst/ is unsustainable it'll die and they can come back and squat on Veeky Forums's face just like they used to

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Now nobody can say that you don't need other boards if you have Veeky Forums.

You literally cannot say that.

We literally have quests that use the game of thrones rpg ruleset as a baseline, and its all under the constraint of the QM(See: DM) rule 0.
Some quests have utterly gone off the rails of the authors starting preview, just like allot of RPG's that i see get complained about on here daily. I am not seeing a difference.

YOU DON'T FUCKING SAY?!'

Man, I declare this is about the only reasonable thing I have read in this whole thread.

lmao

No long term archive like moe or foolz or warosu.

Playing devil's advocate if your body mass was 8% tumerous growth you would be in agony and you would look like a sick freak.

"Roll a dice and something good happens if it's high" is hardly a game mechanic. And yes, an account of a traditional game session is Veeky Forums .

The concern is that now you're getting overlap between the type of shit post quests from /b/, the fact that the 48 hour auto delete is a pain in the ass for some of the larger threads, and that smaller quests that don't have large twitter followings will die before they can gain one.

Mostly it's just a hilariously irrelevant event that some people really care about.

The draw function is neat though.

Anyways, it's not like quests are banned from Veeky Forums anyways so people should really calm the fuck down and see how it goes.

Same as any discussion about Lord of the Rings or any other fantasy literature. Take it to Veeky Forums

I got a couple of marks but no bingo, buddy

>>"Roll a dice and something good happens if it's high" is hardly a game mechanic
>nat 20 threads

We need a few more of these made up. Then we can play a little meta game while we wait and watch.

suptg is a long term archive.

Of course not every thread type needs its own board, but off topic threads shouldn't get to stay just to leach traffic from the front page

>"Roll a dice and something good happens if it's high" is hardly a game mechanic.
The core mechanic of almost every tabletop role playing game is not actually a mechanic.

Alright dude.

Like say whatever you want about for quest or against quest or what is and is not Veeky Forums, but you know that statement was dumb as hell.

>collaborative story telling
>what is likley the very first game humanity ever played
>not traditional

Is this being ironic or do not know about /jp/

Quests are pretty much built on the culture of the board they are from.
Veeky Forums quests tend to be things like game of thrones, hero adventure quests and civ builders. Lots of big, long age quests.

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What does /jp/ even do these days? I remember how they used to be the hub of LNs and VNs, but the former moved to /a/ and the latter to Veeky Forums.

I of course mean another, the split between old anime - airing anime (or as some say moeshit - manime), which has been argued for by a minority for years and years. That would be a lot more catastrophic than the /jp/ split ever was.

>tfw anyone says "go to your containment board" to questfags

>and they are already on Veeky Forums

This is the first containment board for quests.

When there's no quantifiable result, which for quests there basically never is, that's not a game mechanic, just an RNG cue for the author

Except it did, in 2004 /m/ was made. And /jp/ was 2006 or 2007.