What's the cheapest way into war gaming?

>X-Wing
>$10-15 a ship

"You don't need that many models to play" isn't an argument, since there are games with both cheaper models AND require the same/less amount.

By playing small scale, like 6mm or 15mm.

Historicals routinely cost a fraction of what the F&SF companies charge, but find an opponent *first*.

For the current batch of F&SF skirmish and wargames, Malifaux and Warmachine have low costs of entry, as does Infinity. All three can get quite expensive with time, but with time also comes more budget.

By comparison, 40k has a high cost of entry for "normal" games.

Unless you go with paper minis or just don't bother to paint, the hobby side (paint, glue, brushes, etc) is pretty stable regardless of game.

>shitty war machine
Take your pick of shitty players, user. Every game has them.

>15MM MOTHERFUCKER
>smaller scales are fine too

And some companies have figured out that scale does not always affect price.

15mm is a great scale to play 40k in, as a matter of fact. Change only the minis and terrain, and leave all rules and rule scales in place, though you might want to adopt volume LOS instead of "true". There is something very attractive about paying about $50 for all the infantry you will ever need and less than $10 a vehicle...

There are other rulesets as well, but like Historicals, find an opponent first.

What genre are you looking for? Sci-fi, fantasy, historical, other?

Cheapest:

X-wing is relatively affordable

I dunno man $50 gets you a most decent xwing army.

Play frostgrave with reaper minis.

Especially when shit like Slave 1 costs almost 40 bucks. No justification for cheap plastic with a shit paint job for that price.

>Boba Fett's ship not worth $40

Jedi pls

Starter Box
>$40
A couple of choice extra ships
>$20-30

And you've got a team. Larger ones cost more, and if you're buying for upgrades it gets more expensive, but it's half what an Infinity team will run you even before terrain (assuming it's not all papercraft).

Though for cheaper games, something skirmish like Frostgrave, Mordheim, Kill Team, Path of Glory, Necromunda, or third party skirmish game will run you a box of models and maybe some Reaper Minis for special characters and specialists or random enemies, easily less than $50 a team right there if you're thrifty.

>"Slave 1 costs almost 40 bucks"
>pfft no way that's like most of the core game
>I'll just look it up to make sure I'm right
holy fuck you're right
that's nuts

Sorry, I should have said that I'd prefer something Fantastical of some flavour, Scifi and Fantasy scratch the same itch for me,

Historical stuff is kinda neat but I think I'll go for something like X-wing or something, I dunno

Thanks y'all

1/72 WW2. Plenty of selection, models are cheap as chips.

You can get 50 soldiers for $10US.

1/100 is even cheaper if you order online and buy a few in a go.

Historical wargames tend to be free and readily available online. a PDF for Rapid Fire for example, is easily obtained.

Check the /hwg/ general for suggestions or advice

Historicals at 1/72 scale. You can get full armies for 10-15 bucks, add in tanks and artillery and you can have 3 armies for under 100 dollars. When you have the armies and rulebooks, finding other players is pretty easy

You can also just get a 40k starter box on eBay for that price and have enough for two players and you get more models.

So yeah, when you complain about 40k being "too expensive" but X-Wing is "super affordable" you're just full of shit and a retard.

Yeah, but that is at the smallest size of game for 40K whereas the other example would be a full X-Wing force. Also 40K has notorious balance issues and turns take like 30 minutes.

Realize that the hobby you want to get into will take a lot of time and energy, and that at the end of the day you will need people to play with. Think about what you want out of the hobby.

>Do you want to paint cool models?
>Do you want to play a fun, balanced, competitive game?
>Are you really into reading lore/history and want to recreate what you read on the tabletop?

Each game hits these aspects in different ways, do your research. Its not smart to buy the "cheapest" game because if it isn't what you were looking for it will just be a waste of money regardless. You won't find the time to paint the models if you don't like the game. Also, go to your lgs and see what they're playing. If nobody plays what you buy your models will just sit on the shelf.

That's not even a 40k game. It's barely even kill team.

Whereas that's a full Xwing army. With options.

So no, you're still a retarded fuckboy.

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Warstuff. Stat up any old garbage you have laying around and start playing within 5 minutes. My friends and I use it to stage army-man vs plastic dinosaur battles.

>i pay more for less, therefore it's cheaper
>a legitimate small points bracket of 40k isn't an actual 40k game
>box even comes with scenarios to play that game
>fuckboy

Lol.

What are some good wargames with small armies? I'm talking like 15 to 20 models tops. I like the feeling of having each model in my army have a bit of personality and flair, but that really doesn't translate well to things like 40k

any skirmish game really. Infinity might be up your alley.

Any skirmish game. Warmahordes is no longer a skirmish game even though they still call themselves one. Try Infinity.

I actually have my first few Haqqislam models in the mail right now. What about for fantasy?

Age of Sigmar :^)

>More for less.
What is $30 dollar clampacks? Without options?
Come on son.
>Kill team isn't an actual 40k game
That's right actually. It's not 40k at all.
>Thinking cheap ass scenarios for your 2 squad army is a game.
My sides.

Yes you're still a fuckboy. I guess GW literally breeds cucks.

Wow...

Guess it's time to start unpacking a childhood's worth of action figures and clear the living room floor. The Marvel/DC/Star Wars/Star Trek/Aliens Crossover Wars begin within the week!

Make an imperial guard army using plastic soldiers

Malifaux, not standard high fantasy however. You can probably find people actually playing this.
Wrath of Kings is cool
Frostgrave is pretty open ended, lets you use any models you want

>What is $30 dollar clampacks?

30 < 40

>Without options?

You get a bare head option.

>actually uses the word fuckboy ironically and failed to comprehend that was what the greentext was referring to

Lol.

I feel like sometimes I shill a little too hard for this game, but it's seriously the best. The rules are super easy to adjust for different scales too, so you can have your space marine army fight a full-sized (well, toy-sized) Voltron if you really want, and have individual stats for each of the lion-bots.

Every time a poorfag complains about 40k and then is stupid enough to buy EVEN MORE overpriced models, they always cherry pick the HQs as a counter-argument, every single time.

Nevermind the fact that every single model in your army is going to be comprised of cheap $1.50 to $5 posable plastic infantry with options while they're buying $12 metal monopose infantry with no or less options.

I guess being poor and stupid go hand in hand. Maybe if you weren't so dumb you could afford both games.

Yeah, but you need far more minis to have a full army in order to actually play the game. 40K barely functions at a low point level, and has overall terrible rules even at higher points values. If your argument is just price per mini for posable plastics, then you can just go for anything by Perry, Mantic, Warlord, Dreamforge, Fireforge ect and have a better deal(And better rules).

Doable Skirmish to have a crew with variarity with 60 Dollars:
Malifaux is popular, and the rulebook is free,
Batman (and the new marvel game from Knight model) is doable but hard to find a online rulebook and shitty shipping.
Freebooters Fate works but it is German.
Mercs is in a eternal limbo but cheap.
An army with a good amout within 80 Dollars:
Gripping beast has a good game in SAGA, cheap plastic kits and some variety, but might require buying the rulebook.
Warlords has its range of miniature games, some of the historical have cheap plastic kits.
North Star has a shitload but except Frostgrave nothing is well known.
Campaignebased games can be cheap with 50 Dollars modelwise but can be terrainheavy:
Frostgrave is a new one based around Wizards and they have some good minatures.
Mordheim is the wellknown alternative.
Lastly Sportsgame do not have as many models usually:
Guildball while having unique characters, a team is always limited to 5 so it price can be kept low.
Otherwise there is bloodbowl and Dreadball.

Holy shit, those haircuts

>Any single model clampack is twice the price of any xwang ship.
>You need 10x the models to play 40k. aka 50+ of those $1.50 models.
>Can't into basic addition to figure that out.
>1 Special weapon and some alternate heads is 'options' instead of things that are actually applicable in game.
>Happily pay an extra 20 dollars per box you buy to get some random tiny plastic pieces.
>Call others poorfag when they're fiscally responsible while you spend your parents money.
>Shill for Kill Team which has the loosest ruleset of an ALREADY loose ruleset literally built for children who can't afford a proper collection of toys.
WEW
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40kid fuckboy logic in action.

You too.

That's not a haircut, it's male pattern baldness. It'll happen to you too.

Such is life amongst the historicals crowd. The most august graduate to model railroads.

>mfw I will never understand why balding fat men don't just shave their head
>"but then I'll be an ugly bald fat guy"

This is why you don't go fat. Stay fit, friends.

>Freebooter's fate works but is in German
They never came out with an English translation? Damn Krauts, tempting my hope with an English website. Thanks for the other recs though, didn't even know that there was a superhero skirmish game(Sounds like an awesome concept).

There's an English section..they must have english rules somewhere.

I also think there is an english version my comment was aimed that people outside Germany doesn't know of it and shipping can be a hassle

To the Knightmodels game.
They have three systems:
Batman (reaching 4 years), Spidey (6 months) and Marvel (2 months).
Batman is a streetlevel game, one can field Joker and some thugs vs Two-Face, Firefly and Deathstroke vs Batman and Robins vs Gordon and Swat.
The system is interesting due to how one distributes possible actions and the fighting.
Furthermore it is pretty characterful with batman using his batclaws to climb buildings, ninjas using the night to sneakattack or Bane beating up people.
Spidey is a reskin of the batman with a higher powerlevel (but it is pretty new).
Marvel is an entirely new system.
Here the powerlevel is way higher, Thor can battle it out with Cyclops, while Deadpool exchanges fire with Black Widow.

Lastly here is a link to the crew builder:
hero-builder.net/
Look into the batman one

I love the concept. Superheroes have always been about these smaller encounters with a few goons here and there. The figures certainly blow Heroclix's out of the water. Thanks for the link.

>model railroads

The Supreme Neckbeard eschews games of war and searches instead for wisdom in the railway tracks.

>kill team isn't 40k
am i being trolled?

It's pretty much a shell of a game and nothing close to 40k, only introduced because people in the 3rd world whine about not being about to play subpar games.

If you play kill-team unironically you should just play Necromunda and Gorkamorka and stop being a 40kuck.

>tfw I fucking loved Fantasy models
>tfw sigmarines and "definitely not meganobz"

I hate the WoW inspiration too. At least you can still buy recasts of the wacky German soldiers elsewhere.

Kings of War has good army bundles.

That is certainly possible.
Gamesize is 300 to 350.
The cheapest goon is 10 while the most expensive one is 50.
There is also a range of faction goons: Clowns for joker ( with a dash of harley thugs), Ninja for the league, Plants for Ivy.
Batman o the other hand can be 75 (Adam West) to 150 (Arkham Knight Batman). He'll take out a shitload of goon if he can ambush them but when you start grabbing him, he'll be pulled down to their level.
On the other hands Free Agent (Usually mercenaries or allies) can be from 50 (Damien Wayne, Scarecrow) to 80 (Deadshot, Catwoman) up to more supers 135 (Hawkman, Solomon Grundy, Clayface).
Normally I play Two-Face with around 6-7 gangster and mobster and a supervillain ally like Riddler, Deadshot or Copperhead.
Fun fact: An abilities related to the background stories of Two Face forces him to flip a coin each turn granting him a bonus or a malus depending on he result.

brick wars lads
*lights white eagle signal*

Brick wars is dope, but I like painting models

Welcome to the industry outside of historicals.

>brian isn't sure
>isn't sure
>is not sure
>brian
>not

>sure

Battletech

All you need is $60 once for the starter box. Game is never WYSIWYG so proxy forever

I don't get it.

>Sci-fi or Fantasy
Okay, question two: do you want to lead big armies, a few squads or a single group maybe 5-10 models strong?