>Here's my character, user.
Here's my character, user
"Awesome, now let's play and have fun because I'm not an autistic neckbeard that spergs out when someone wants to be a character they like."
this
Great, let's talk background and work your goals into the campaign
I just don't like it because typically people who can't come up with their own character ideas are pretty uncreative, and I just prefer to play with creative people.
Almost this.
>"Change something to make him yours. Maybe he was exiled for a different reason? Or he dual wields daggers instead?"
And thus you slowly mould the player into creating original, interesting PCs from their own imagination.
Cool dude, glad you could make it.
because I have perspective, and D&D is not my fucking end all be all
So other people are trying to make sure that the free time they have they want to spend in a particular hobby they are doing with like-minded people, and you are calling THEM autistic?
you forgot a part of that sentence
and yes, autist
Okay, here's my character. He's basically your character, with a fucking Bankai.
Sorry, we start at reasonable level with believable powerlevels
>tfw in 5e he's a 8th level character with the equipment of four 20th level ones
And so the sueism continues
You're a fucking faggot m8.
Here's my character
>he doesn't know how to negate player equipment to provide a challenge
Negating one player's equipment negates all player's equipment of that type. Stop being a faggot.
They nerfed his level? He was at least level 15 in previous editions
Yep, and knowing that a 15th level in 5e is way weaker than a 15th level in 3.5 I dunno the reason
Are you playing with a party so massively unbalanced they require overleveled equipment to function?
>implying I wouldn't play a session with RA Salvatore
He's sick of Drizzt though. He'd kill him off if wotc would let him.
Nice swords and panther ya got there.
It'd be a shame if something were to happen to them.
I'd honestly be fine for newbies to just roll up an old stereotype to get the hang of it. Elf Ranger, Dwarf Fighter, Human Wizard, Halfling Thief... and expand off that or put some flesh into that character on their own or branch out later.
Honestly, I might have preferred that as my first character. GM could have handed me a premade sheet for one of a number of pretty common fantasy stereotypes and had me ease into roleplaying them until I was comfortable with PnP RPGs.
So I guess drow are Wyld mutants? Or are you from some divergent population of Jadeborn?
Is this issue that its Dritz? Or that the player lacks imagination?
Because those are very separate problems.
My first gaming character in 3.5 was "Not Wulfgar" my main goal was to get a hammer to return when i threw it. So every hammer i found in game was thrown to see if it would return to my hand. Battle hammers, mauls, smithing hammers and one time, a judges gavel.
T-this is going to be my character.
Am I making a poor choice?
Yes. You're gonna get your nose lopped off.
It's just stupid halflings and elves who don't have noses.
Here's my character.
There's no reason to have drow who aren't like Drizzt in a D&D setting anymore.
Elminster is contradictory.
Half his life is pretty awesome. He's banged goddesses, has the favour of at least two deities, casually sleeps around with immortal sorceresses he raised himself (Greenwood's obsession with "free love" concepts shining through, I think, but given the quasi-medieval period of FR and the sheer amount of sex that went on in the real world, I'm sort of unsurprised), and is probably in the top ten most powerful wizards on the planet.
The other half of his life is shit. His entire family was murdered, he spent years on the streets as a vagabond before finally getting his shit sorted, he was a plaything and minion for gods who fucked with his mind on multiple occasions, is a chew toy in the majority of the books about him (see: Elminster in Hell, Elminster in Myth Drannor for some good examples, especially the former), is made to carry divine essence that dozens of people want to kill him for so he has to be forever ready to defend it (and Mystra in one book actually told him he had to survive without magic for an entire year), and is literally insane because the mortal mind and body is not built to carry divine energy for over a thousand years, has seen all his friends and loved ones keep fucking dying of old age on him except for a select few (who are also insane in their own way, see: Simbul).
The books honestly show his life as pretty much misery on top of misery, with a few bright spots in all the crap.
"I don't care how hard you fucking minmaxed, you cannot have that damn sword"
Let's be honest there, Elric was pretty edgy already.
>cool, heres mine, though i wasn't sure on how i should build him.
>what do you think user?
I can't leave my homeland for more than a couple weeks without degenerating into a wheelchair bound cripple if I don't have it. My build will be useless!
"The item description literally says: "Will eventually kill everyone". You're either going to use it as an excuse to back-stab people, or you're hoping I'm not going to let Seersucker the magic murder blade kill you or the entire party so you just get the good bits. I will give you a special ring that lets your character not rot away, I will let you re-roll, but I will not give you a sword that's practically a BBEG!"
> a ring that prevents rotting, degenerating, and being crippled
Sign me up.
Here's my character
Cute. Can I have her?
Nope, I plan on making a fresh dwarven cook in the future as well
Okay.
This.
It also doesn't make much sense. In one of the books he went toe-to-toe with a marilith and did pretty good for himself. An 8th level character can't do that.
Where do you see his stats?
Oh, hi Chris Perkins. Didn't know you came here.
>Here's my character
Cute. Can I have her?
You can't
>Wanting that
>Not wanting this
It's like you don't even want to marry a powerful magic user.
Sorry, character have to be at least Level 1 for my campaign. If you want to roll an NPC class this isn't the best campaign for it.
>wanting either when you can have best girl from that setting
Did she break her leg or something?
Here's my character. Can he have a Luck stat? It's super important
Cool retro concept!
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>..and when he hits you with it you get teleported to a magic realm to pull a wagon with other souls for eternity
>"you know we're during at level 3 right?
Sorry about not bringing a character, GM. I want to know what you guys want me to be first.
A 8th level character in 5e can't, an 8th level in 3.5 might.
I beat two mariliths as a 10th level character, Monk/Psywar, though GM played it wrong, he kept full attacking me instead of realizing my Karmic Strike build benefits from that.
I was just thinking, how do you run a situation in which a single player has to tackle a big bad monster or a group of monsters.
It would probably be rough, especially if it's the "leave me behind to slow them down" type deal. Do you allow them some extra sway? Maybe two turns? Maybe being able to stay conscious when falling below max health? Seems like they'd go down too fast.
Paladin devoted to a neutral good nature god?
I wasn't alone, I just rolled high ini and the mariliths wen't just after me, when they finished their turn one was unconscious and the other was like at >10 HPs.
I had 6 AoO (12 if you count double hit feat), each of my attacks dealt like 60 damage on average (decisive strike monk, superior unarmed strike, improved natural strike, monk belt, etc), so "pounced" and full attack, in their turn they decided to full attack me and for every time I got hit I retaliated with two attacks that dealt on average 60 each. Thanks to vampire claws I healed half the damage I dealt so I could stay alive.
And like I said, the GM kept full attacking even when the first Marilith died because of that, the second Marilith should have used other tactic instead.
It would explain why she is on the floor
Well, I was looking for my old sheet, and turns out I was 15th level, completely disregard my post.
Then you run into DMs who inevitably try to wash down your creative characters because they're out shining the DMPC
The moral of the story: creative or uncreative a group that plays well together stays together.
Honestly? at this point i'd be OK with it
It's been a while since i've seen a droozle clone that wasn't EDGY or SATIRICAL
I think there's quite a lot of comedy gold to be had in a well intentioned Drow autist coming to the surface (because thats what Drizzt is, an autist, he's Rain Man with swords) trying to be besties with everyone and misunderstanding things completely simply because the Underdark is SO MUCH WORSE he thinks people are trying to be friendly
HAHA! VILLAGERS ONLY THROW ROCKS, NOT POISONOUS SPIDERS TIED TO ROCKS! I AM BEING WELCOMED!
>Here's my character
>Here's my character
>implying luck
>implying Tylor isn't just that good
Three words: porn videotape episode.
No one can be that oblivious.
I wouldn't mind a level 20 guy slumping around with the level 6s, touching everything else but the enemies unless he absolutely has to.
>Here's my character, user.
...not sure if rakasha or sidreal.
here's my character
i'm still upset that this comic doesn't contain uchiha madara after that copypasta
>A 8th level character in 5e can't, an 8th level in 3.5 might.
Probably, but in 3.5 he was explicitly a 16th level character.
Whereas in 5th Edition he's been said to be 8th level via a tweet, even though that makes no damn sense based on what he's been able to do in the books.
He honestly makes the most sense as a high-level (say about 15th-level) spell-less ranger with the Hunter archetype.
Some people want to make him a Fighter (Scout), but to my own way of thinking if the text explicitly identifies him as a Ranger numerous times, then he should be statted out as a damn ranger.
Deedlit isn't from that setting. The Slayers takes place in a different universe from Record of Lodoss War.
I think Scout Fighter fits better
Or spell-less Deep stalker
>I think Scout Fighter fits better
NO. HE IS EXPLICITLY A RANGER IN THE GOD-DAMNED TEXT. EVEN IN THE UNDERDARK WHEN TRAINING IN MELEE-MAGTHERE HE SPENT MOST OF HIS TIME RANGING AHEAD OF DROW PATROLS BEING STEALTHY AND SHIT. THEN HE LIVED BY HIMSELF IN THE UNDERDARK FOR 10 YEARS BEING A RANGER AND DOING RANGER-TYPE THINGS IN THE UNDERDARK.
HE MADE FRIENDS WITH A BEAR FOR CHRISSAKE.
HE SPENDS HIS SPARE TIME WANDERING THE WILDS OF THE SWORD COAST OR THE ICEWIND DALE.
HE'S A RANGER, DAMNIT. HE IS *THE* RANGER IN D&D.
NEXT YOU'LL BE TELLING ME THAT RAISTLIN IS A BARD.
HAVING SAID ALL OF THAT Deep Stalker might work, but "Hunter" gives him a number of distinct combat bonuses that I think fit him better.
The devs said he's not a ranger (class)
THE DEVS CAN SUCK COCKS, EXCEPT AS I UNDERSTAND IT ONE OF THEM IS GAY ALREADY SO INSTEAD HE CAN MUNCH SOME CARPET.
If Drizzt is a Fighter then Raistlin is a Bard and Acererak is an Abjurer.
>HE'S A RANGER, DAMNIT. HE IS *THE* RANGER IN D&D.
Take a deep breath and repeat after me: class =/= what your character is. It is just a collection of mechanics. Everything you have written can be achieved by a background.
>ignoring that time Raistlin set up as a wandering magic act, with his brother doing feats of strength and Tika dancing
He spent a little time in a kind-of-bardy situation. By Drizzt-as-fighter logic we can stat him as a full bard.
>I think Scout Fighter fits better
Except that when it was written (the Dark Elf Trilogy) it was written EXPLICITLY to justify his Ranger class. Not to mention that no, it can't be explained by Background, Background only gets you to 1st level and Drizzt achieved that no later then the end of his first year in Melee-Magthere. After that he fought enough monsters and other drow that he would have been gaining experience and levels, and all the things he does in that time fit perfectly with the Ranger, whereas the Scout falls short in a number of areas.
Add to that that he is supposed to be *the* archetypal Ranger of Dungeons & Dragons and I just take serious issue with statting him out as anything but a Ranger - it makes as much sense as statting out Raistlin as a College of Lore Bard on the grounds that he knew a lot of stuff and used to put on magic performances.
Scout gets favored terrain and other naturey shit ala ranger. Your argument is invalid.
Look, you probably *can* do it. But you shoudn't. Because the text explicitly identifies him as a Ranger. And this isn't a Conan the Barbarian or Strider the Ranger situation where the person writing it had no knowledge of D&D and wasn't trying to conform to D&D archetypes. Bob Salvatore played D&D, he knew what he was writing, he knew the archetypes.
When asked to come up with Drizzt (as a replacement for another character that he couldn't use for reasons not relevant to this discussion), he on the spot thought of him as a Drow Ranger and knew everything that that entailed.
Drizzt is a Ranger. The Devs can suck cock and/or munch carpet, as they find personally unpleasant. If bisexual...I dunno. They can stub their toe like, really painfully.
Bisexuals are placed in a loving yet nonsexual companionate marriage with an aromantic asexual. It's actually very nice for both parties.
>Setting does not allow firearms
Here's my character
Here's my character
>awooo
Then I'll run this one.
Here's my character, guys.
I'd play with him.
Here is my character. His name is Tom Brady.
My character. What are the stats for automail in your setting, DM-user?
My character.
> What are the stats for automail in your setting, DM-user?
As DM, I would be more worried by how flexible alchemy was in the series, they could make too many things with it (and almost instantaneously) to work easily in a game.
>worst SAO
Why user? I mean, fuck, actually SAO haremettes are mostly playable concepts. Why choosing her who has nothing execpt tits and incestlove?
>And this is my wizard!
This is my patron deity.