I have but one duty to the Dragon: Coring those fuckers. Never take Drac money, boys.
Anthony Phillips
Damn dracs, only ones worse than liao
James Wilson
Tech wise how behind the Inner Sphere were the Periphery states in 3025?
I mean logistically I know they were really bass ackwards, but how different would a Stinger rolling off the lines on Canopus or a Thunderbolt on Taurus be from their Inner Sphere counterparts?
I just ask because the late 3rd Succession War era appears to be the closest the Periphery states ever got in military tech, at least on paper and due to the Inner Sphere blowing itself back three centuries.
Nathaniel Turner
Dead even. The Star League bulldozed all the local-tech mech factories way back in the Reunification War. The only ones the Periphery had in the 3rd War were the SL-built factories for SL designs.
Unless you count the Merlin, which was the first new mech designed in over a century. That was an Outworld's mech. If you count that, then the Periphery actually got a couple years head start on the 3020's Renaissance.
Caleb Price
>but how different would a Stinger rolling off the lines on Canopus or a Thunderbolt on Taurus be from their Inner Sphere counterparts? Pretty much not at all. The factories, not only for the mechs but for the other major components (with the exception of the Merlin) were all built at the same time from the same blueprints as the Inner Sphere factories for those designs. The only difference would probably be the brand names on the cockpit trim and what languages things are labeled in. Even the Merlin uses commonly available, interchangeable parts that lots of IS stuff uses, 100% compatibility.
Ryder Jackson
DEATH TO MERCENARIES You wouldn't understand our SUPERIOR culture, you barbarian.
Julian Murphy
t. Space Nip that loves to massacre innocent civilians
Landon Bailey
Look at the face of your betters, cur!
Nolan Cox
Post your merc units, /btg/. I'm interested in seeing what kind of units you guys put together/play
Joseph Harris
Jenner Wolverine Dragon Atlas DEATH TO MERCENAIRES! LONG LIVE THE COMBINE!
Jaxson Parker
Black Knight, Marauder, Hunchback 4P and Crab 27b make up most of my current merc company in ATB.
Looted a couple of Griffin 2Ns too. But I really wanted to remove ammo dependence.
Carson Gomez
Why not. These guys started out as a light lance in a backwater garrison with dreams of glory. That was three years ago, gametime. Campaign in the maximum scrounge of the 2990's.
I've won and lost assaults and lostech, big tanks and little ones, whole bushels of bugs, and am currently broke as fuck in the middle of a civil war on what was supposed to be a cushy garrison/local force training gig.
Christopher Ward
That Rico Biden is a trooper
David Robinson
They all have done pretty cool stuff. Jerid takes more head hits than an NFL linebacker but has always come out of his concussion comas even on 11's and 12's to help his buddies out.
Grumman shot down an enemy Leopard preparing to land one time with nothing but the medium lasers on his Thrush. Unfortunately it wasn't enough speed or damage to make it explode at one level off the airstrip. Sure kept those bastards grounded though. Most of them have an interesting story for every world, some good some bad.
They also don't get kill credit for doing stuff like legging a mech, which is how most of the force has gained salvage throughout the campaigns.
Owen Adams
Hah! I never noticed that piece of gloating before. It's outstanding.
Angel Wright
>Unfortunately it wasn't enough speed or damage to make it explode at one level off the airstrip But shooting a DropShip down without blowing it up is literally the dream payday for mercs. If you can pull that off, you're suddenly rich enough to buy a whole battalion of new mechs (assuming you don't keep the ship yourself, of course)
Luis Bennett
Wait, no, the pic isn't dated.
Funniest if it's from the Reunification War.
Jeremiah Cooper
Except when it's loaded with an enemy lance of mechs that outweigh and outgun by several times the small scout lance you had out that way.
By the time we drove that force offworld, they'd repaired the landing gear they sheared off and were able to leave. Would've Zerged them if there wasn't a second leopard and a union in that group.
Which reminds me. Fighting landed spheroids is a nightmare. Even just getting under the guns for a couple of turns to take crippling potshots at their V's and lights as they were loading them up was brutal.
Carter Gonzalez
>It's a well known fact that battletech writers just don't like to deal with rebellion and insurrection
Various Beemers have literally said this at one point or another.
Which makes FWL Liberation Units rather pointless...
Evan Ward
explains their lack of presence, aside from being part of the FWL
Ethan Jones
>Which makes FWL Liberation Units Where are those detailed in the books? I've seen you reference them a few times now but never seen any references in canon.
Austin Powell
FM:FWL and Brush Wars detail and reference them, respectively. Original House Marik sourcebook likely mentions them too.
Thomas Watson
So what was the best non-Mech Capellan Artillery in the Succession Wars?
Brandon Cooper
I remember the Big Mac dealing with an insurrection once in Capellan territory at the time of the Inner Sphere's counter-attack against the Clans.
Also, wasn't the FedCom Civil War basically a large rebellion or insurrection?
James Jackson
Long Tom. Same as everyone else.
Wyatt Murphy
>Also, wasn't the FedCom Civil War basically a large rebellion or insurrection? Only if you were a Katfag. Otherwise it was a civil war which is a slightly different matter in terms of semantics.
David Kelly
Also the constant mess with Rasalhague and Skye that existed until they were taken over by the bears or handed off to the RotS (which is really more because those two are powered by fiat than anything).
Nathaniel Hall
Are there any large sets of pilot portraits for MekHQ other than the "Ink effects" ones? I absolutely HATE those portraits; I remember there used to be a few packs of regular pictures (some celebrities, a lot of good art, pilots from the BT sourcebooks, etc), but I can't find any of those on the MegaMek Sourceforge page, nor in the MegaMek Downloads page.
Zachary Thompson
I see.
I was kind of hoping they Capellans would have something creative given it said they made use of a lot of Artillery.
Jackson Jenkins
Nope. Exactly three types of artillery existed before Arrow IV nothing else. Hell, aside from arrow IV and cruise missiles, (which really should have existed before the 3060s, seriously) there hasn't been a single new artillery weapon introduced since 2200 in the battletech universe
Eli Torres
Was House Amaris basically the Donald Trump of the first Star League?
Ian Price
I don't recall House Amaris being racist and transphobic.
Colton Powell
I meant Artillery Units more or less.
Eli Turner
Not really, they were more along the lines of holding a huge grudge for ~300 years.
Daniel Williams
Well he did MAKE THE RIMWORLDS GREAT AGAIN
Xavier Peterson
Speaking of factions that did nothing wrong, what are the best sources for reading about the Rim Worlds Republic?
Connor Stewart
I think there was one rulebook or whatever about them?
Parker Moore
>Buzzwords Trump even went against the party line and said he didn't support the North Carolina bathroom security bill. Whatever transphobic means, he probably isn't.
Amaris was racist as fuck, if I recall correctly. He had a serious gene-fetishism, like all those 80s sci-fi dictators who were strawmen of Adolf Hitler. Trump isn't racist.
Ryan Torres
Nah. They really aren't quite like anything in real life Also, on a side note, Stefan Amaris is officially the #1 master ruseman of all time, undisputed
Joshua Foster
And then they tore it all down. Seriously, what idiots they were.
Samuel Cooper
>what are the best sources for reading about the Rim Worlds Republic? Periphery 1e, Reunification War, Liberation of Terra I, FR:2765:P. ISP 3 has a little info, too, as does LoT 2
Ian Rivera
Thanks not-me
I don't have screencaps or anything, but iirc the answer boiled down to "BT isn't about all that, so we're not going to have it happen much or give it screen time if it does"
Given some of the foreshadowing in 3145/3150, I'm hoping this is an elaborate ruse.
Benjamin Torres
The original Star League House Book probably has the most FASA info, more than Periphery 1e anyway.
Ryder Bell
It was also the plot of almost all the earliest Dark Age stuff. All those splinter factions were literally rebellions and rogue states, plus the caps fomenting rebellion on places like Liao.
Charles Watson
Hey, Muninn How much money have you got for btg TRO? Are you far from 5k?
Isaiah Garcia
We've received approx. 1500 in donations to date.
Oliver Rogers
Right, I don't have that sourcebook, but it's good to know
Justin Robinson
How much more do you need?
Adam Morgan
Very few people do. That's why it's so nice we have a scanned copy in the thread folder.
Grayson Nelson
If they've got a budget of 5K, and they've gotten 1.5K, then...
Nathaniel Bennett
We need another $3,500 to reach our target. There's lots of info about budget, donating, etc. here:
I am, of course, happy to answer any questions you may have.
Robert Ross
As an aside, I'm waiting curiously to see if we'll ever get a female contributor. So far we have 30 dudes. Or X dudes plus Y females pretending to be dudes, I suppose.
Leo Lopez
Someone go shill the TRO on the general board of the OF again
Also take screencaps
Asher Nguyen
Why does CGL loves "proverbial" so much? Every recent book has one of those expressions. That socks a proverbial dick
William Price
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Brandon Williams
Honest question, why do you keep spamming this shit
Oliver Martinez
Who the hell is Kamala, and why should I care that they're punching a poorly drawn Atlas?
Austin Turner
...
Luis Martinez
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Xavier Parker
>Implying that a taurian is in any way normal
Brayden Parker
>taurian Isn't it the logo for the MWO company instead?
William Hill
...
Eli Gonzalez
Show me on the doll where medron pryde touched you, user
Xavier Butler
We are so weird, one guy though the PGI logo was a Taurian one.
Ryan Bailey
Are you fucking retarded?
Jayden Robinson
Yes, it's the PGI cow skull or whatevs
Nolan Bell
So I played with the Claw-Hammer variant of the Hammer and thought it was pretty fun. It might just be cause I'm a long-time Nova Cat player and 7 medium lasers is a nice start.
Others who have used the Claw-Hammer, your thoughts of it?
Jayden Hernandez
That is the PGI logo. Where have you been?
Michael King
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Jason Moore
Get outta here, mister paragraphs We don't want your kind here
Camden Ramirez
>taurian >autism at its finest.
John Johnson
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Ethan Watson
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Aiden Rivera
Which periphery state would be closest to old west mexico, in terms of "we hit this last big lick and hide out in X"? I'm working up a history for a merc demi-company that's a bunch of Dispossessed desperadoes who hit their "one last big score" and reinvented themselves as mechwarrior mercs in the periphery
Lincoln Parker
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Jose Evans
>being this dumb
Logan Long
come back when you stop being retarded
Ryder Russell
i would say stop biting the bait but Kamala Khan is the new Ms. Marvel. Selling points for the character include being cute and also being a follower of islam
Jonathan Reed
Can someone explain this chart to me?
Benjamin Anderson
>all this taurian samefagging Just accept that your faction is shit
Owen Hughes
Marvel's latest attempt to destroy Western civilization
Hudson Evans
Honestly? Antallos.
>Giant poison desert that covers the whole planet >A few people live in dome cities >Full of pirates and bandits >Mutated wildlife that wants to eat you >Loads of tinpot dictators >Hidden Star League treasure all over the place >The one merc hall that doesn't care who you are or what you've done, you'll find a job that pays >Bonus, solaris style fights
Of course if you're playing after the Ravens show up, then all that gets sucked away by the clan fun police.
Jackson Garcia
Why hasn't the IS got Clan CASE yet?
Jonathan Sanders
It highlights the most efficient weapons by damage/ton heat curve and a couple other things.
Ian Nelson
Do any states make Clan Ferro?
Nathan Sanders
If you've hit the Suns or CapCon, the outer parts of the taurian concordat are a good choice. They even speak spanish. Plus they have mech factories with a disinclination to asking questions that'd be perfect for gearing up from ill-gotten gains.
Oliver Miller
Quick search of MegaMek turns up the Hauptmann T, Templar R, and Malice XV. Plus the Yurei LAM and a version of Yen-lo-Wang
Grayson Roberts
So I know the Dracs like PPCs, Lyrans like Gauss, and Davions like ACs. What are the signature weapons of the FWL and Capellans?
Brayden Stewart
>FWL In 3025, PPC-LL refits. After 3058, it's all LGR all 24/7, baby
Joseph Gonzalez
>Capellans They actually don't have a ton in the way of signature weapons, though they show a slight inclination towards PPCs and ERPPCs. Later on, they develop something of a massive boner for TSM legs, but they don't have anything particular other than that and maybe a bit of TSEMP in the Dark Age
Jayden Green
The Combine has it on the Cizin and SM2, both made at Nova Cat factories that were captured intact. Lyrans have it on the Jaguar, which is described as being built with assistance from Wolf-in-Exile, so not sure if they actually make clan ferro themselves. Clan Republic of the Sphere has it, of course, though they only use it on the Jackalope for some reason. Ferro-Lam on one version of the Malice, imported from the SharkFoxes?
Jordan Miller
Plasma rifle was their signature weapon.
Joshua Collins
Did I not mention that? Clearly I'm drunker than I thought
Nolan Diaz
They really like big-bore ACs and Gauss. A while back I did some random unit generation and the Caps had a couple fewer Gauss than the Lyrans, and almost twice as much as anyone else (Davions were next, Dracs used HPPCs about as often as the Davions, and the FWL had like one headcapper in a company)
Jonathan Cruz
It's kinda interesting how their AC/20 love emerged pretty much at the same time as their gaussboner, design-wise
Eli Richardson
A question for /btg/: How fast do you think mediums should be?
5/8 and 6/9 XL mechs are best off as heavies unless they jump, and SFE mechs have virtually no tonnage available when moving 6/9 or 7/11.
Even a 7/11 40 tonner with an LFE or a 6/9 50 tonner with one don't have much space available.
And yet, so many medium mechs go slower than any of these
Oliver Butler
The way you use slow mediums/lights is either in large cheap groups (panther) or in a lance of bigger bruisers with the same movement profile. Tends to work out pretty well that way.
Cooper Ortiz
Yeah but then I could just bring another big bruiser. Why use a mech that's going too slow (or too fast - see the Grand Titan et al)
Luke Diaz
Mediums are good for 5/8/5 and 5/8/8. 6/9/6 or 6/9/0 fat lights are fun, too. 4/6/4 troopers are good up to the jihad, and 8/12 XL fat lights can be fun in their very own retarded way