The Forged: thread 2

OP let it 404 edition

For those of you who weren't here for the first thread, a quick summary on our Chaos Warband

>Name: The Forged
>Colors are in next post
>Warband was fromed during a desperatre life or death teamup between an Imp fists company and an IW warband
>They fought together against and Tyranid attack, and are now in an arms race with them on their Fortress world covered in tyranid biof-form jungles
>Lead by a Dreadnought champion who royally fucked up an Eldar Craftworld to get new toys for the Dark Mechanicus compliment they are allied with.
>A strange mutation afflicts the Warband, as their wargear, augmetics, armor weapons and vehicles begin to merge with their bodies, though far more elegantly than their counterparts amongst chaos
>They are obsessed with becoming the perfect weapons, the perfect soldiers and the perfect marriage between flesh and metal
>They slowly evolve in their armor, over the centuries a power armourd brother will become encased in terminator armor, which itself shall then mould into a dreadnought many more centuries later
>Slaanesh is their unknown patron, for they do not actively worship the prince of pleasure their obsession with perfection plleases him/her/it, and so gifts them blessing without their knowledge

Symbol is still in the works, lets get back to fluffing boys! We need write and draw fags!

colors are pic related

Also last thread for those interested

Do they have psykers? How do they feel about magic?

Probably see it as another tool to bring death to their enemies.

They are not very pious(their patron isn't even directly worshipped) But sorcerers who are less beholden to their deities or undivided ones are probably fine

Of course we could spin it another way, and they see magic as an example of power given form, and sorcerers are believed to basically be cannons or some such

I dunno

I can see that - they get relegated to really utilitarian roles as they are but cogs in a larger, greater engine.

In fact, that could be read further that they regularly abduct subjects as slave labor, convert them into servitors but keep them still conscious of what is occurring just because Chaos. Though it's a bit Borgy now that I think of it...

Maybe I dunno

The big thing about not being borg like is they don't have a hive mind. Even as they become more and more like machines they remain individuals, with ambition and such. That's probably one of the most important things to remember

These guys sound like they would love the obliterator cult.

I imagine we are pretty good friends with them yea

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Oblitorators are crude and slaves to their base needs and the machine. A valiant but crude and flawed attempt at a perfect union of flesh and machine.

Occasionally the Forged Apothecaries will toy around with the virus and try and get it to work right but so far progress has progress has not been promising.

Warpsmiths are more promising.

Yea, this is most likely correct

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I thought IM's were some of the most hardline against chaos space marines, especially IW's. Probably the craziest loyal chapter (Black Templars) was directly founded from the IM's.

I don't know how to improve what you've made, but I feel like a lot of the current fluff would reject such a pairing out of hand.

However, I very much like the idea of IM's and IW's being corrupted by Slaanesh over time. The two chapters who most staunchly resisted the call of Chaos being corrupted is ironic.

I'm sorry the IM's? due you mean IF as in Imperial Fists?

And our whole point is it was originally out of necesity, here, this was the suggestion >47106918

They banded together to face a greater foe and found that they were stronger together than they could ever have been apart. the IMP fists in general hate the IW yes, but isolated things such as this happen all the time within the fluff, and chaos is never not alluring. Also, IW are in no way really resistant to corruption I mean... they are one of the traitor legions.

I would suggest reading the previous thread honestly, we came up with some pretty kick ass stuff in there

fucked up the link

Last bump before bed.

Keep the thread alive, night anons

Growth if it continues is theorized to go power armour, terminator armour, centurian, dreadnaught, Knight, Titans of increasing size and then finally either space ship or fortress depending on if they are in space or on a planet.

By the time they reach the final stage their fleshy components are basically just organic computer and support systems.

As of yet its assumed to be purely theoretical as it takes so long and nobody has got past dreadnaught yet.

How should they treat their slaves?

I'm getting a bees in a hive vibe from this so possibly not as bad as many warbands.

so it goes

power armour -> terminator armour -> centurion armour -> dreadnaught -> Knight -> Titan -> Bigger Titan -> Space Ship -> Increasingly bigger spaceships -> Star Fort.

Unless they are on the ground for the final stages of their development then it goes

power armour -> terminator armour -> centurion armour -> dreadnaught -> Knight -> Titan -> Bigger Titan -> Fortress -> Fortified City -> Hive.

Maybe, rather than it being mere theory, there is one who managed to get way far down the list.

Brother Tadaaki the Ancient is now whgat looks like the Omnissiah class battleship they call home.

If this conflicts pre-existing fluff please ignore.

Are they fleet based or do they have a planet to camp on.

They live on a fortress world covered by tyranud Bio form jungkes. They are in an arms race at all times with the tyranids trying to destroy eachother.

I could see this Tadaaki being like, an addition to the original fortress yea, it would be quite interesting tro know some of there home base is a fellow comrade

Tyranid Bio-form jungles I mean

The servitors should be slaved directly into the central processing unit (the ancient marine). Theoretically he could exist and survive indefinitely at reduced capability alone using nothing but his servitors.

I like that! Now I'm just imagining the tyranids breaching a fort and the fort itself fights them as they try to kill it by getting at the organic mind circuitry and all that shit... it sounds like a badass writefag

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We actually still need both a name for our champion as well as what kind of Dreadnought he is

It was suggested he have a pillaged Eldar Wraithknight blade which was a cool idea, but what kind of Dread is he?

Vanilla, Leviathan, contemptor, what? And he still needs a damn name

Pjotr the Unstoppable.

2nd oldest of the Forged after Tadaaki the Unmovable.

Looks like a Furioso Dreadnaught. One powerfist/claw thing and one "regular" hand holding a stolen wraith blade.

Holds himself, and by extension everyone else, to certain standards and a code of conduct. It's a pretty basic and brutal set of standards but he's a godless heathen so what exactly were you expecting?

Sees himself and his brothers not as inhuman or post-human or even mutated humans but as what humanity is supposed to be.

Or close enough.

The flaws beaten out and new strengths beaten in.

Nice

His ultimate plan? Ultimate ambition? Replace humanity, with Astartes like the Forged, or at least bring the rest of the the Forged as far as they can go towards perfection

The Forged are as he sees it the prototype design for the good and proper warrior elite of humanity.

The Dark Mechanicus Adepts in his employ are the true inheritors of Mars by virtue of being right about humanity needing to get out of the dirt.

He is the best choice for leader at the moment as he is the only one with the vision to see where humanity needs to go and the drive to get them there.

He tells his brothers than when they win and humanity is reborn into a new perfection that he will stand down in favor of a leader of more suited to such a time. He might even not be lying.

In his utopia all soldiers will be forged, most of the population will be servitors of one sort or another and all the "free" citizens will be his brand of Dark Mechanicus.

He has no concern for the gods one way or the other so there will be religious freedom. Of course the only people capable of exercising that right will be Dark Mechanicus so it would be Omnissiah worship in any case.

Undoubtedly a New Imperium built on these lines would be unbelievably strong. It would also be Hell.

Oh cool, he's like a really fucked up warrior philosopher, with that crazy idea of what humanity and Astartes should be.

Now whats his opinion on xenos? I imagine its similiar to Emps or something, they have no place in his utopia, as they cannot achieve the perfection of servitors or the Forged. I think he would especially hate the Tyranids for obvious reasons, as they use nothing but biological tech, eschewing the holy matrimony of man and weapon and subverting it.

He believes they are the dymetric opposite of the forged and must be destroyed for this utopia to ever have a chance of existing.

He's never even heard of the Tau as he lives at the other side of the galaxy.

I imagine pretty spot on for the 'Nids although hate is too strong a word. They are mindless and unthinking. He doesn't hate them because it would be wasted on them. They are destined for extinction in his perfect world because they are too dangerous to be left alive.

Pretty much same with the orks. He doesn't believe that orks are actually sapient. Very bright animals oh hell yes but not actually sapient bar a few regrettable specimens.

Eldar he would actually be in favor of if they would get the stick out of their ass. A Wraithguard is actually pretty neat from his point of view as it is a living soul in a body that is both organic and inorganic at the same time.

I like that, the orks and nids are so far beneath them that hate is not possible. The nids are basically just animals to test their weapons on and hone their skills against. Something to trst their strength, both of them and their fortresses

Orks are just non-sapient animals, save some warbosses, who could never comprehend the utopia Pjotr sees for the galaxy

The Eldar are pretty interesting yea. The idea that he sees Writhlords and Wraithgurad as an interesting example of soul, machine, and living organism. Though he thinks they are not ambitious enough to see what they could do.

What else? What other special characters do we have?

Do we have a forge master?

Tadaaki the Unmovable.

They have the traditional Chaos Doom Fort.

It's at about the size where it's not quite a Hive but definitely a stupidly huge city.

Tadaaki the Unmovable accounts for almost 20% of it and he is spreading.

The piece of himself that houses his main brain is many many miles beneath the surface around the geothermal generators. He has backups and sub-brains.

He is the very model of a proper city and sees himself as something not unakin to a local god. The Dark Mechanicus adepts that wander his well tended mass are inclined to agree. He has armies of lovingly maintained and well crafted servitors all working with great precision and harmony.

He is not so much of a philosopher but he is a great organizer.

Yes. Sort of.

He/it was never a space marine. He wasn't even human officially.

Tradition among the local Dark-Technicians is that when one of their brotherhood dies they strip any usable parts out of the body be they biological or technological and they are then used to patch up a failing brother. Or construct a new member although usually with additional parts from the lab.

He was never born. He was Frankensteined together from parts.

Specializes in fortress and starship repair.

On a personal level he dislikes Tadaaki intensely because Tadaaki won't take advice when it comes to the rebuilding of the Doom Fort.

cool idea!

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What other special characters do we have? Who is our head Warpsmith, seeing as we no douby have one?

Also, anyone wanna try writefagging?

So whats the Name of our Homeworld and where is it located in the galaxy? We know its far away from the Tau Empire, but other than that what do we need?

>We are a renegade chapter descended from the Imperial Fists Chapter
>We were excommunicated from the Imperium after we commited atrocities and/or cowardly actions as we neared annhilation in order to survive
>We are neutral, seeing chaos merely as a tool and consider the 'faithful' to be fools and slaves
>Even so, occasionally we give souls to please Slaanesh, in order for us to receive the occasionalk assistance from them
>We believe that power demands a sacrifice, and we are willing to sacrifice anything to advance ourselces, even our own brothers.
>We believe all that aren't us are merely pawns to be used and expended when we see fit
>We are often mutated in horrific physical ways(TBD)
>Our figure of legend(and possible current champion) is a dreadnought, who commited great atrocities upon an eldar craftworld and his name is still loathed by the race
>We live on a fortess jungle world, sticking to our fist roots somewhat
>We focus on armored combat, using many battle tanks to crush our enemies beneath our treads
>We make use of unholy wargear(TBD)
>We are slightly above strength, following our merging with another chapter with similar goals to ours
>We are allied with a Dark mechanicus and/or Traitor titan legion
>We are enemies with a hive fleet

This is a bit out of date, a more up to date version is in the OP

IF company

Excommunicated after allying with IW warband to fight Nids

Not chaos zealots, see greater strenght in machines

Recieve occasional 'gifts' from Slaanesh due to dedication to obtaining perfection

If the sacrifice of weaklings is needed to advance the cause of The Forged... So be it.

Loss of limb is a small price to pay for greater perfection

Pjotr the Unstoppable, Knight sized dreadnought-machine. Attacked craft-world for DarkMech favor, Wields a wraithknight blade

Reinforced on jungle planet (site of IF/IW battle?) site of Tadaaki the Unmovable, once another Dread, he has been incorporated into the fortress' defenses and is now vast machine.

Use lots of mechanized assault tactics, lots of tanks, the bigger the better

Use unholy(heritek weapons) from DarkMech

Largeish size (for a company? for a chapter?) due to being "Forged anew" with the IW

Allied with DarkMech, for their technologies

Fight the subhuman Nids, that dare attack their perfect mechanical fortress

Did I sum up most of it?

Yup, good going user! And yes, their current world is the site of their first battle against eachother and where they became the Forged.

As for size big for a warband so maybe not a whole chapter but... 5 or 6 companies worth? 500 to 700 marines+Servitor/Dark Mechanicus/Cultist support

Just an idea to cement the ties between the IF and IW, when they team up to rek the Nids, Captain Pjotr could be severely wounded saving IW's from Nids. The IW warsmith dies though.
The IW show gratitude by entombing him in a dread

Why not? Of course by that point I think they are already excommunicated by Terra.

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Ok, gonna bump this before bed. DOn't let this die, we have alot of work to do

Well, goodnight thread

Far galactic south west.

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Do they have any space ships or are they locked down on their shitty little tyrannid infested rock?

They should have some ships, im guessing two, one from the IF chapter and 1 from the IW warband. They do need to raid that eldar craft world after all

My guns thunder and howl, tearing those pathetic insects in droves. Their imperfect biological forms forming ever greater mounds of death.
This pleases me.

I feel the servitors tending to my guns and my precious adepts, all so small, but necessary moving within my depths. The servitors move as streams, unified and with purpose. As it should be. I sense the Adepts again, hear their muttered chants and I FEEL, truly FEEL myself expanding, more sheets of metal and wires of the city becoming part of me. The feeling is indescribable, exquisite! A shudder runs through me, from my intricate wires, to my streets. The adepts chanting increases its tempo.

But then amidst this ecstasy and orderly perfection, something is amiss...
Those bugs! They dare to breach my walls? They dare to breach ME!?
I order my servitors, droves of them to the walls, my brothers feel my distress and continue to hurl the bugs back with renewed fury.
This is the last time they shall assault Tadaakai the Unmovable, the Heart of the Forged!

(my first time as a writefag go, easy senpai)

The weird thing was that they weren't even wanting to fight the elder.

They wanted wraithbone. A substance that is alive but not biological in the traditional sense of the world. Technological but not mechanical. Material but of the warp.

They wanted to study, find uses for and find a way of duplicating it or something like it.

They were going to go to the craftworld and leave with a few bags of it. They would have preferred to trade either services or base metals or some such for it and both gone their separate ways. If no trade was to be made they were going to take it by force.

The Eldar never gave them the chance and opened fire the moment they spotted them.

They could smell the stink of Slaanesh upon them.

MOAR! MOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR!

This is very good.

We need a head apothecary.

And a head warp-dabbler.

Hmmmmmm... indeed we do.

Ideas? I was thinking with our Warp Dabbler Sorcerer he is some sort of weird combo of Warsmith/Sorcerer/Possessed? Really drive home the combining of Daemon,Astartes and evolving machine?

The head apothecary is an astartes entangled in an ever-growing mass of medical mechadendrites. He has dozens of the things, sprouting out of every part of his flesh and armour, even his left eye socket.

Sounds cool to me

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There is another warp dabbler of note in the Doom Fort.

Or at least they assume its a psyker. Could be a deamon. Its hard to tell.

It looks like an old man with lots of white hair, a big white beard, craggy old skin and dressed in animal skins.

He is not there by anyone's consent or permission and his presence is unwelcome.

He carries with him a long stick with bits of bone stuck in it and a horseshoe nailed to the top with a bent nail.

He just spends all his time running around the fort and occasionally breaking expensive equipment. All attempts to kill or capture him have failed.

Occasionally he will vanish. Sometimes for months at a time. Nobody knows where he goes or how he comes back.

As he dances and capers about the place he sings and chants and mumbles and shouts all manner of nonsense and crazy talk.

If any of the Forged had been paying attention they might have noticed patterns in the gibberish. Sadly they have not.

It's worth noting that he only turned up after the assault on the craftworld. Many believe that he was inflicted on them by the xenos as a prank. They are wrong. The timing is purely coincidental. He is the tangled ball of string with only one end.

bamf

That fucking face

That color scheme is actually pretty good

A kickass user made it for us in the first thread, it was basically unanimously voted to be the color scheme out of our choices

It is indeed pretty good

Thank you

No problem dude it is awesome! Now of course, we are just waiting for people to come writefag and continue building on fluff

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What's there left to fluff?

We can writefag, come up with events, suggest additional special characters, come up with battles and campaigns, who other than nids hate us, who else we have feuds with.

Our relationship to other chaos forces, our planet for one seeing as it still does not have a name

Our planet should probably come first. What do we have so far, tyranid jungle bioforms?

We know its our fortress world covered in a tyranid bio-jungle and that our fortess is basically always under attack to an extent

Well, it should be a layered fuck huge compound, with a lot of segregation between sections of the fortress. That way, if one section falls, the rest can continue enough to re claim it. Also, lots of walls

Yea like some Iron cage level of defensive shit in order to survive.

What should we call our fort? Honestly I think the name of our fuck off heuge fortress matters more than the planets name

It can be both.

The Kilm? The Furnace? Forgehaven? Forged Throne? Forge-watch?

The world they're on was the site of the fists and the warriors battle, they've fortified it against a hive fleet ever since.

Lets not get to 'forge' crazy, we aren't Space wolves where every other object/rank has to have Forge or some variation in it

Lets try for something else, not that some of those aren't ok

Sounds like entrenchments and craters turned into permanent defenses. They'd also have to have constant clearings around the fortress, lest it over run. Either scorched earth to the point of no return, physically carving out separations, or constant fires clearing near by jungle expanses

Could incorporate either the fact that it was the sight of a major battle into the name, or that it was a crucible and the birthplace of the warband

I like that idea!

The Genesis fort? The sacred battlements?

disclaimer OP sucks at naming. Also, now must sleep

Keep the thread alive(glad I seem to have jump started conversation)

night thread

The furnace

Built on a volcanic vent in the already sweltering heat of the tropical planet. The thermal vent is used to craft weapons, equipment and ammunition for the Forged. Servitors toil in the blistering heat, as the Adepts of the True Mechanicum craft accursed technologies for their prophet Pjotr the Unstoppable.

In the heat of the furnace, weaknesses is purged and Forged Anew!!

Crucible would work better, I think, since that is also the spot that the warband began

The Crucible sounds good

My only complaint is that it's a little generic. We need an adjective to go with it.

What's the total numbers of the Forged (marines at least), and what is the percentage of IF/IW?

I'm suggesting 40% IFs, 40% IWs and 20% later generation hybrids and outsiders.

For numbers somewhere between 700 and 900 Forged + shit loads of combat servitors.

On this subject what should their attitude be towards recruiting marines from other legions/chapters/warbands be?

Ok, so roughly Chapter sized. Thanks

That's just my opinion based on such concrete concepts of "feels about right" .

Also I don't know if that should count Forged who are too far along the progression path to count as marines like Tadaakai the Unmovable.

Yeah, I just wanted to know so that if this is still going by tomorrow afternoon, I can actually come up with some characters

It should be if I am doing my job right

I like the Crucible, though I agree we need to add an adjective or something to it

Who are the named characters we have so far (excluding Taadaaki)?

Pjotr the unstoppable, Dreadnought champion

Un-named frankenstein Dark mechanicus(the forge master equivalent)

Crazy possibly daemonic dude(less of a character, as he does not help the forged)

Technically only 2 including Tadaaki, but I count the other two

We still need a Warpsmith, a Sorcerer probably, and just some other assorted characters

Any terminators and/or Havocs/Devs yet?

>ven as they become more and more like machines they remain individuals, with ambition and such. That's probably one of the most important things to remember
>Growth if it continues is theorized to go power armour, terminator armour, centurian, dreadnaught, Knight, Titans of increasing size and then finally either space ship or fortress depending on if they are in space or on a planet.
>By the time they reach the final stage their fleshy components are basically just organic computer and support systems.
>Unless they are on the ground for the final stages of their development then it goes
>power armour -> terminator armour -> centurion armour -> dreadnaught -> Knight -> Titan -> Bigger Titan -> Fortress -> Fortified City -> Hive.
>The Dark Mechanicus Adepts in his employ are the true inheritors of Mars by virtue of being right about humanity needing to get out of the dirt.
>The Dark Mechanicus adepts that wander his well tended mass are inclined to agree. He has armies of lovingly maintained and well crafted servitors all working with great precision and harmony.
>I sense the Adepts again, hear their muttered chants and I FEEL, truly FEEL myself expanding, more sheets of metal and wires of the city becoming part of me. The feeling is indescribable, exquisite! A shudder runs through me, from my intricate wires, to my streets.
>Our relationship to other chaos forces
I know my Daughters of Peace, or at the very least their Dark Mechanicus of Formidae, would like them.
The feel is probably not mutual, seeing as they keep trying to experiment with 'Nids.

Daughters of peace eh? Would you like to explain yourself new faction person?

No actually, we prolly need some o dem

Please go away ND. Nobody likes you.

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Is this the nigga from the bio-marines?

I don't known. The quotes are from the forged though, this warband

New recruits.

Should they enquired by the usual method of raiding imperial or independent human worlds or growing human bodies in jars?

Why not Iron hands instead? They're more into the perfection of the machine and don't have quite the overwhelming hatred the fists and Iron Warriors have with each other as legion units separately to the Loyalist/Chaos split.