Hey Veeky Forums! Anyone here want to play a friendly game of Gangrape?

I'd rather play FATAL desu

I love how the first page almost literally reads, "YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO ENJOY THIS," completely negating the reason that most people engage in collective story-play.

It's like going to a "restaurant" where you buy Canard à l'Orange solely so you can admire it from the other side of a pane of glass, then leave.

It's an attempt at transferring an "adult" kind of enjoyment to TTRPGs. You know how there are movies, plays, books that are impossible to enjoy, to the point of being actually painful to watch/read? Yet they somehow are supposedly the greatest achievements according to critics?
Well, if you take a medium and make something that's impossible to enjoy on purpose, that makes it art and extra sophisticated at that.

>mdw this RPG happened BEFORE the mass Muslim immgration

Playing ironically, over-the-top or
trying to laugh things off is not allowed.
Better then to stop playing, or not play
at all.
What Lame ass shit is this! ! ! ! ! ?

For example?

>You know how there are movies, plays, books that are impossible to enjoy, to the point of being actually painful to watch/read?

Yes, but they're intended to evoke specific emotions in an individual. The purpose of story-gaming is almost entirely having an enjoyable time crafting a narrative with friends. A TTRPG that evokes disgust, displeasure, and discomfort is self-defeating, doubly so when it tells you you're not allowed to enjoy these sensations.

If you had a smashing time watching Narco Cultura or La vita è bella, you're a sociopath and completely missed the fucking point.

Not him, but i think their point here is to bring the players closer to the "reality" of rape, which is better achieved with an interactive medium, especially one as physical as TTRPG.

Not that it matters since it's still swedish bullshit, but atleast there is reasoning behind the stupidity.

I dunno, man. Koyaanisqatsi I guess? Whatever I'm going to say, somebody will claim it's enjoyable. Other than that, weird independent films. In Germany there's also Wir Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo, the adaption of an autobiographical book about a drug addict girl. That shit is just plain not fun to watch.

You could say the same about movies or vidya, yet here we are with shit like Wir Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo. I'm a firm believer that just because something has meaning and wants to be thought provoking, it doesn't have to be an utter shitshow to watch, but we most of these still want to be completely unenjoyable.

He said "painful" though. Wouldn't say that Benigni was painful. Certainly pretty sad, but shit, I'd prefer to be dead than to enjoy only funny shit.

Koyacantspellit was pretty enjoyable to me.
(actually I didn't like it so much, but certainly not "painful")

>ITT: People from the country who spawned the furry movement and tumblr pay way too much attention to some "game" made by edgy students and make sweeping statements about Sweden.

If you hurt their feelings they can get them checked for free you guys.

>Implying we're all from burgerland
You have to be aware of ethnicities other than your own, user :^)

I think because it defeats the purpose if you don't induce some amount of the real stress of a real rape into the game?

I think that's part of what its trying to do

I get that teenagers would both miss the point of and be upset about the existence of a game like this.

Doesn't mean the game is something you play over beer but there exists other people than the empathy impaired ones that teenagers are. Albeit not as many or the same as most D&D players.

That said, GR is pretty obscure and was an experiment with that particular group's type of freeforming.

>The purpose of story-gaming is almost entirely having an enjoyable time crafting a narrative with friends. A TTRPG that evokes disgust, displeasure, and discomfort is self-defeating, doubly so when it tells you you're not allowed to enjoy these sensations.

This is completely unrelated, but I think you just accurately summarized why I hate AdEva so much.

How do you think the creators would respond if I named my rapist character Muhammad?

Why did you expect a game called "Gang rape" to be about BDSM? Have you been reading Japanese porn again?

>The purpose of story-gaming is almost entirely having an enjoyable time crafting a narrative with friends
No, that's only true when that's the purpose. If you play for another purpose, then that purpose is the purpose. Besides, there's no actual game in Gang Rape, it's just some kind of weird reminder of how terrible rape is by ways of tricking you into imagining it by making you think there'll be a game somewhere if you keep reading.

Holy shit this is really well-designed. Why are such good mechanics wasted on a concept like this?

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Mass muslim immigration has been the name of the game in sweden for atleast a decade.
Funnily enough the rate of sexual assaults have increased at a comparable rate aswell! who would have thought!

I always wonder how Denmark and Norway feel about their tryhard progressive neighbour

Proof or kill yourself. Actually just kill yourself

It's actually declining.

>Somebody let Captain Cuck in the thread

Lol k

allenbwest.com/ashleyedwardson/mainstream-media-wont-tell-you-why-sweden-is-now-rape-capital-of-the-west

This game looks dumb as fuck.

Are you a crying swede or are you just a butthurt liberal?

>it was a buthurt swede all along
>Veeky Forums has become /int/
I don't even need the other boards anymore ™

only slightly, and only recently. That's because Sweden has taken its head out of the sand and started to acknowledge that there is an immigrant problem.

Are you, honestly, implying that everyone in this thread is an immature teenager who lacks empathy, and therefore doesn't "get" the game?

user, we all 'get' why someone would make this game: the creator explains it on the first fucking page. We get it, but we disagree with the idea that a topic as emotionally charged and reviled as rape can be effectively discussed or analyze with make-belief that ends up looking like spiritual self-flagelation than anything else.

Huh, I hate AdEva because it tries to have strict codified rules for a setting that runs on Plot and bullshit.

Also I enjoy my disgust, displeasure, and discomfort very much.

/pol/ was right again.

Green Room.

>Koyaanisqatsi

Fantastic visuals and soundtrack.

/pol/ was wrong again.
Fixed that for you

twitter.com/realvivaeuropa/status/703876422641819648

Is this what Sweden is like?

So you got an internet connection in your cuckshed now Swen?

*Sven

I see your wife and her bull let use the computer this week, Sven.

I volunteer as tribute.

Who will be my rapists?

What is a "jeepform" game played "jeeply"?

>The actual rape is not played as larp

Why not?

Pick your poison.

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>almost literally
>almost
>literally

Is this Veeky Forums's new thing? Calling everything you don't like sociopathic? Is sociopath the new faggot?

>On a meta-note, I tried hard not to come when writing this—that is I tried hard not to back down from making this game less scary at any point. This is a game without smileys or covers to duck behind.

So did he come while writing this or not?

I thought cuck was the new faggot. I can't keep up. I think sociopathic is the new autist.

Fuck you OP

Why do you keep posting this shit?

I have seen your trans acceptance games, man-hating games, lesbian queer games, feminist games, all of them from fucking Sweden, the land of unending muslim rape, and the most misandrist bitches in human history, and now this.

I hope they made it ironically, because searching all of their names, I have yet to see feminism activity

Denmark has a giant unrequited complex and would rather do the opposite of Sweden than something clever. Sweden is envious of Norway because of oil. Not really sure how Norwegians feel in turn. Norway-Denmark, no idea.

>not a single trigger warning in the entire pdf
Huh. I wasn't expecting that, but I guess everybody's a little bit surprised by gangrape.

>So did he come while writing this or not?
Did you actually read all the text on that page, or did you just skim it for something you could greentext

Because he's clearly saying that since he finished writing the game without stuttering or breaking eye contact with the woman, he didn't come.

>not a single trigger warning in the entire pdf

It was made in 2007. tumblr was brand-new then and mostly just for porn and cat gifs.

I think people who legitimately have triggers due to sexual assault should obviously not play Gang Rape.

That seems pretty obvious.

That's funny, I though the whole point of engaging in gang rape was to trigger sexual assault!

It's a bit too melodramatic for my taste. Gangrape is bad, who knew?

But you can make gangrape funny. See The only correct way to play this is to try and get a good laugh out of it.

But if we're looking at it that way then the simple fact of the matter if that they've already failed. Telling players that they shouldn't enjoy something is artless and lazy. If you're looking at game design as an artform then the fact that the game isn't fun should be inferred by the rules, and if it is inferred by the rules than the act of stating that the game isn't fun shows a complete lack of confidence in the artist.

Artsy movies don't come along and go "Oh by the way! The theme is loneliness. You see what I did there with that camera angle? Well that's because of, y'know, loneliness. Hah." Though I suppose there's 'artistic value' to something like that, it would be on some kind of meta level.

Admittedly, without that disclaimer, it would be pretty easy to read the rules and say "This sounds miserable! Why would I want to play this?"

Or play it the way most of tg would, as a joke.

I can't really fault them. It might've been a dumb idea in the first place, but the idea of using tabletop RPGs for demonstration purposes and to get people thinking is interesting for me, politics aside.

When you create art you have to accept that some people will see it in a different way. That's pretty much the entire value of art. The discussion and all that. It's why we have galleries and critics and all that pretentious stuff. When you accept this you also have to accept that some people just wont 'get it'. And that's also okay and entirely valid. That's another part of where the value is. If you don't have to discuss and pay attention to the piece itself, where is the artistic value?

Probably not a very good example because marketing and all but Monopoly doesn't frontload itself with "This shouldn't be fun!" and I can bet that the original concept didn't either. If anything it was probably back-loaded. Because you teach people by showing, not telling.
>This isn't fun!
>Yes
>That's stupid
>But you've learned :^)
>Every fucking time Barry. This is why nobody plays with you.
is much better than
>Huh. These rules look pretty fun.
>It isn't fun!
>Wha'? No it's clearly a joke. Y'know, like irony.
>It isn't fun! Don't consume my art in a way that I dislike!

Don't get me wrong. There's value in fun entertainment stuff. Something doesn't need to have artistic value to be valuable. In fact if something only has artistic value and nothing else I'm likely to dismiss it as pretentious fart-huffing. But they're obviously going for something like that.

>I would like to urge you not to use music during the rape and after. It will affect the players’ feelings too much—which exactly what I want their actions to do. If you insist, a reasonable use of music during the rape is to let every rapist play background music as a metaphor for what he is doing to the woman. Every rapist will have his own musical theme describing his assault.
>Every rapist will have his own musical theme

DON'T STOP ME NOW
I'M HAVING SUCH A GOOD TIME
I'M HAVING A BALL

Well, that's the danger of using art on such a charged theme, I guess. It is a bit gutless, I'll admit.

Jesus Christ, amazing. What were they thinking with that? Is there anything that would not be ridiculous? Even if my theme was the fucking Psycho theme, it would give me the giggles.

Let's play this

>Is there anything that would not be ridiculous?

Something slow would be better than something than something fast and aggressive, I think. Maybe some ominous and brooding Phillip Glass piece. Koyaanisqatsi was mentioned earlier in the thread, and the theme might be a good fit.

Either way, I can imagine any given playthrough of this game going one of two possible ways.
1) The players are utterly unable to keep a straight face, and laugh the whole thing off.
2) The players get off on it.

With either scenario, the game fails at creating the harrowing and emotionally taxing experience the author intended, because he has completely misunderstood the dynamics of the medium he's working with.

Exposure to triggers in a controlled fictional setting is pretty much the ideal way to begin treatment for trauma.

I've gotta say, "poor little white boy" here is more jacked than any of those black men there.

I'm sure they all had a good time regardless.

Well, I could see a good DM and a somber minded party successfully feeling shitty for a few hours.

It isn't exactly mass marketed.

It doesn't have a DM. Read the pdf. Everyone involved is either a rapist or a rapee.

Oh. Uh. I think I would rather just stop talking about this than read the PDF to be honest.

Anyway, good talk.

You really should read it, it's absolutely demented

Vincent Baker tried that, and now everyone thinks Poison'd is a game about necrophiliac pedophiles.

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>The only correct way to play this is to try and get a good laugh out of it.

>§2 Playing ironically, over-the-top or
trying to laugh things off is not allowed.
Better then to stop playing, or not play
at all.

They tell me that it's good for me, but I don't even care
I know that it's crazy
I know that it's nowhere
But there is no denying that

It's hip to be square

youtube.com/watch?v=rNkwKR04tPQ

m.youtube.com/watch?v=XCiDuy4mrWU

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I don't think it's trying to make a political point.
If you want to pursue the agenda of reducing gang rapes, then making a game that attempts to duplicate the experience of a gang rape really isn't the way to go. This isn't preventing gang rapes, it's facilitating them.

It might be trying to make an artistic point. Artists are crazy.

Norwegians tell jokes about stupid Swedes, the way Americans tell jokes about stupid blondes.

Norwegians think the Danish language is basically Norwegian as spoken while drunk and with a potato in your mouth.

This is my new No Fun Allowed image.

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>Koyaanisqatsi
Samsara was the shit you faggot.

Is this real?

>tfw white pride folks can't help being right-wing authoritarians

I feel like it's done a decent job of fostering dialogue just by existing. This thread is proof, simply by the fact the armpit of the internet has spent the better part of 100 posts NOT devolving into LOL RAEP jokes.

Rubber does that to some degree, though I'm not sure where it falls on the artsy scale.

On one hand I'm sort of happy that roleplaying games have the ability to make these sorts of things possible, but on the other hand I can't really see anyone playing them ever.

youtube.com/watch?v=Jm-upHSP9KU

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm-upHSP9KU

>It doesn’t take much to create a Lover. As her, tell us:
>your name
>your sign
>your hairstyle
>a tendency you have, or something you’re coping with.