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>Dex 11

With stubby little fingers like that? C'mon.

How else is he going to build great walls?

Hire illegals to do it?

Slaves.

Building things yourself is for Commoners, not Aristocrats.

The only thing he's a God Emperor of, is /pol/.

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>7 int
He's a successful business leader. And has said the only reason he would rum as a Republican I'd because the primary base is retarded. He knows how to play the system.
If that is not being intelligent, I don't know what is.

>LE
I thought "good intentions, bad way to get them done" was CG.

He is Dorn.

Get your facts straight.

>successful

...

He has dramatically increased his fortune from what he inherited, which is succesful in most books.

HC: Ambitious political wannabe
T: Everyone's just mad because I'm better than them
A: My toupee is my best quality
A: Feminism is for ugly bitches
A: Political turmoil sustains my lifeforce

+4 Deceive
+3 Provoke
+2 Contacts
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Stunts:
Use Provoke instead of Rapport when appealing to feminist haters

+2 to Creating Advantage with Resources when conning people into funding your campaign

Endearing toupee: once per campaign, clear all Social stress or reduce a Social Consequence by 1 step by having a hair malfunction on national television

>muh 4 bankruptcies

The dude is worth billions and had dozens of companies. It's inevitable that some of them would fail.

I don't like him in the slightest, but attacking his business record is the shittiest path because it's the most easily refuted.

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And there are different types of bankruptcy, including the one where you declare bankruptcy to restructure the company - which is what Trump's were

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>people really think Donald Trump cares about the United States or its people
>people think any extremely wealthy or powerful person cares about the United States or its people
It‘s all about money and power and fame, for both Trump and the Clintons. Which is why we need Bernie.

His businesses do not thrive because he is intelligent. His businesses thrive because he's disgustingly rich and knows how to speak favorably and flatteringly. He runs his businesses by using his money and smooth-talking to trick people that DO know how to run businesses into telling him how they would handle particular situations.

Trump does not run on good intentions. If he did, he would sound much like every other candidate ever. When Trump speaks, he does not describe a country that would be good for its citizens regardless of his own desires; he describes a country that he would like to see regardless of the desires of others.

That sounds pretty indicative of LE, to me.

>willingly voting for the guy who says all problems in the world are caused by rich people
>willingly voting for the guy that will cause a huge rise in inflation

And you think that Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton are any better because?

Some beholders manage to channel their pervasive xenophobic tendencies into a terrible despotism

It doesn't take a genius to make money from a business. And most of the reason he was able to, was because he started wealthy to begin with. If you have a million, it's not difficult to find a reliable something to invest in. Hell you could always buy controlling shares of a popular shopping-mall toy chain, drive it into the ground, and rake in the insurance from it. See example KB Toys.

See, but he would be worth significantly more if he had just left it in a mutual fund. Saying that he succeeded when doing nothing would have made him richer than what he did seems a tad disingenuous. Rather, it's a testament to his father that he was able to put Trump in such a place that even with the series of monumental fuck ups that is Trump's business career he is still worth anything.
Trump Steaks
GoTrump.com
Trump Airlines
Trump Vodka
Trump Mortgage
Trump: The Game
Trump Magazine
Trump University
Trump Ice
The United States Football League
The Tour de Trump
Trump on the Ocean
The Trump Network
Trumped!
Trump New Media

This is based on just the most cursory of google searches. It took me longer to type it up than it took to find it. The business angle is probably pretty strong. Now, you're right, not everything the Trump Organization has owned has gone under. But then, not everything the Trump Organization has owned had Trump's personal involvement. Three guesses what the common thread linking the list above is.

>Lel I get all my infurmashun frum Faux News!

Holds a Concealed Carry Permit, he's a competent marksman.

Well he has to be competent at something, I guess.

But that's wrong though. Sure you can earn a lot of money through mutual funds, but they aren't magic.

Oh don't forget user! Those business ventures weren't "failures", but rather "restructuring the company".

>>willingly voting for the guy who says all problems in the world are caused by rich people
Most problems in the US can be traced back to the either the very rich or the very poor. Based on that it's obvious what we should do.

>>willingly voting for the guy that will cause a huge rise in inflation
Inflation+Increased wages is moot. Bernie is the only mainstream candidate who actually cares about personal liberty and the right to privacy, things which both parties are set to trample on.

>didn't read my post
The Clintons are political animals, they don't care about average people any more than Trump does.

We /pol nao!

>Personal liberty
Can't agree more. It is really sad to see the two leading candidates appeal to the fear that people have instead of promising to end the US government's unconstitutional surveillance. Sure you had Rand up in arms against the program, but he didn't last that long.

This thread should never have been made.

>Based on that it's obvious what we should do.

yes, we kill the poor

He turned 4 million in to 4 billion, I'll leave you to work out what kind of return is on that. What you are reading is called propaganda and misinformation, it is the same thing Bernie Sanders would tell you when we could give you all these free things.

His business knowledge is amazingly savy, there is not a single established businessman who does not explore other option and ventures to expand the brand and name of his company. He may spend 10 million on exploring a dozen new frontiers and businesses and they all may fail, but the one that hits will make a return that completely outweighs his previous losses.

It is how businesses stay relevant, market research and constant innovation.

So... Basically 99% of the US...

>yes, we kill the poor
And allow the rich to force the middle class into poverty?
You didn't think this through m8.

Huh. Thanks for directing me to the article. It goes on to state that while the 8 billion number is inaccurate because it's based on the money Trump received in 1982, which couldn't properly be called his father's money, the underlying assumption that trump would be worth more if he just sat on his hands for thirty years is actually borne out. Thanks for encouraging me to have a deeper understanding of the issues.

Been trying that with wars, and suck ass medical care for a long time. Let's knife the rich this time and see if things improve for the middle class.

>Business
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>Hotellier
>Acting
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>Loss prevention
>And now politics
>Building walls
>Making others pay for them

Turns out there's more than one, when Ol' 'Gibmedat' Sanders cannot convince others of his use while running against the single most knowingly corrupt family in Ameican politics. He still lost.

That was obviously tongue-in-cheek, make

Also, even though I like the god-emperor enough to go out, register to vote, and then vote for him, please keep /pol/ on /pol/.

The future savior of the United States.

CE Shit-poster. Get the fuck off Veeky Forums with this shit, if I wanted /pol/ I would go to /pol/.

Godddamit, *mate

Considering Sanders is an Agnostic Jewish Socialist, I'm amazed he's even in the running at all. This IS the United States we're talking about, here.

There is also the fact he would not have had the lifestyle and media profile he has today therefore the article is doubly-false.

There is a reason every established publication and mainstream republican and democrat institute is against him.

He is the best thing for American politics as if we have a businessman with very little political experience running -AND WINNING-, there is nothing to stop the Democrats from doing the same. This could change the politcal landscape, it is up to the Democrats if they really want to change the system or fall back to their basic political voting patterns

The idea that trump did worse with his money than index funds is shitty memery

How he did it was being an enormous kike who abused the shit out of eminant domain, bankruptcy law, and in some cases outright scamming

But at least he's not running on a platform which advocates flooding already supersaturated job markets with immigrants who don't speak english, and he doesn't advocate for expansion of legal and institutional discrimination against whites

Are you kidding? Secular Jewish socialists are what the coastal elites aspire to be.

He's the same as every other politian, he's just in a different wrapper. He promised the same stuff as Obama, free this and free that and we won't have to pay for anything. And most of our generation really believed him.

Congratulations to them, they participated in wealth redistribution and now know why he was not popular outside of that demographic.

Usually they have the good sense to stay behind the throne, the vizier shouldn't try to wear the crown

Also, general image for the thread

According to republican talking heads, we have been living in a socialism ever since Roosevelt. Just don't point out that would make St.Reagan a socialist, as that will cause them to froth at the mouth.

>implying all businessmen do not have a handful of failures

Stay mad, bernouts! Heil der Trumpenfuhrer we're making America White again!

...

Different user. Bernie is hands down the best candidate because he cares the most, by a wide margin, about getting money out of politics, and is even supporting candidates for congress with a similar opinion on it to his. Him winning the biggest office in the country without sucking corporate cock would be a very important message to send to the United States. I disagree with many of his policies but none are as important as this one, because with so many politicians blatantly owned by lobbyists and corporations, nothing in the interest of the people can get done. Also, disagree with him or not, Bernie Sanders is fucking honest.

Hillary is the polar opposites, willing to say anything to anybody if she thinks it will further her cause, which is utterly self serving. She represents every perversion of liberalism but much of the democratic party is under the retarded mindset that it's her turn. For this reason, even though I dislike Trump, I think that Hillary is by far the worst of the three.

As a european with no stakes in this, let me say:
Donald Trump is the best choice for America and I actually think he truly cares

No, don't you know, all businesses only put out successful products that last forever. It's why every thread on Veeky Forums is talking about the first edition of every game, which was perfectly made, and how every studio only puts out perfect first editions and never makes a bad game, or just a good game that doesn't sell well enough to justify it's continued production

That doesn't mean they want one in office. From the perspective of the ultra-wealthy, the government is a tool to subjugate the poor. Any WASPy good ole boy can do that just fine, while giving them the illusion he's on their side.

>his businesses do not thrive because he is intelligent
>therefore his INT should be SEVERELY below AVERAGE

Dude I dislike trump but this is retarded

Just so you know, he thinks you guys are already living under sharia law.

To be fair, Germany, Sweden, France, and the UK aren't all of Europe.

> Bernie is hands down the best candidate because he cares the most, by a wide margin, about getting money out of politics, and is even supporting candidates for congress with a similar opinion on it to his.

He cares the most because he says he cares the most? Circular logic. He bailed out the bankers, he is and has always been, in their pocket. Look at his voting record in congress he bailed out Wallstreet and others.

And of course he is supporting candidates that share his opinions... that is how politics works.

> Him winning the biggest office in the country without sucking corporate cock would be a very important message to send to the United States. I disagree with many of his policies but none are as important as this one, because with so many politicians blatantly owned by lobbyists and corporations, nothing in the interest of the people can get done. Also, disagree with him or not, Bernie Sanders is fucking honest.

His campagain was, in part, funded by lobbyists. He may of been a bit more selective but he was still in their pocket. Donald Trump self-funded, he is beholden to nobody except his votes which is why the call for him has been the strongest. He is not honest as he places a tax on furture growth, just like we have by the baby boomers, the thing you protest against is the exact same thing that the baby boomers did to us.

DISHONEST!

The expansion is exagerated, but some regions literally are

>implying they're not going to be

But seriously though, let this shit thread die, unless you want to discuss whether or whether not there has been a decent president in the past 40 years.

youtube.com/watch?v=owI7DOeO_yg

He doesn't and that kind of retarded statement is why you can't take leftists in America seriously
You began to lie for political gain, but nowadays you actually believe the bullshit you spout about others
>"let's call Donald trump a racist"
>"based on which of his statements"
>"lul I don't know"
The sad thing isn't that you say that shit, the sad thing is that you believe it

Has there been?

There are a number of pieces of misinformation in your post, which I'll endeavor to correct, armed with the article other user directed me to, along with other research.

So, when you say four million, I'm assuming you refer to the money he had in 1974, when he became president of his father's real estate company. That figure is incorrect, because the company at the time was worth 200 million, meaning that divided between him and his siblings he received 40 million. Or perhaps you were referring to his net worth in 1982, which was roughly 200 million.

Then there's the estimation of his current net worth. Fortune put in a generous estimate of slightly over 3 billion, I'll link the article:

fortune.com/2016/03/02/donald-trump-tax-returns-income/

>market research and constant innovation.

That's true, but what you've described, and what trump has exhibited, is less akin to research and more resembling dumping millions of dollars into an empty field and hoping it grows a money tree.

Also, he's acknowledging that Trump is really good at manipulating people and getting them to work hard for them, which is stupid of Trump because obviously he should know everything about every aspect of his businesses. What kind of leader delegates? The President is certainly not a near-figurehead position who needs to know how to wrangle various governmental houses, subcommittees, and agencies, along with lots of special interests, to get any work done.

>Trump
>Beholden to anyone but his narcissism
top kek

>Very important message to send to the United States
Donald Trump has done that by showing that anybody with the finances can win the nominee. If the democrats want to, they can vote for their own businessman/philanthropist. Bernie Sanders shows that old, white, Jewish people will say anythign to stay in power.

You have failed to present any rational point other than I think, I feel and I know.

NOT AN ARGUMENT.

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Google confirmed a failure of a company.

And that mutual fund thing is absurd, if he liquefied all his father's assets and invested them all at the absolute perfect time, then after leaving it for decades and decades he might have almost as much money as he has now.

Only, instead of traveling all over the world fucking models, building a massive empire, raising a successful family, etc, he would have been living in a cheap apartment somewhere because all his money would be tied up.

He took a few million and turned it into billions, how delusional do you have to be to convince yourself that that's a failure?

Can you explain? What is his narcissism? First rule of politics is attack the attacker otherwise the population belives it to be true, psy 101.

Again, you provide nothing to debate so to quote Hitchens razor. What can be asserted with out evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

DISMISSED!

>what trump has exhibited, is less akin to research and more resembling dumping millions of dollars into an empty field and hoping it grows a money tree.

You do not believe that he has just jumped on any random idea and thrown money at it in the hopes that some takes root. This is ad-hominen . No profitable company (Except Games Workshop) ignores market research, market trends and their customer base they commission their reports, their statements, everything to find out what and why they spend.

The facts are this, every report about his money, save those that come from his own mouth, are estimated guesses at best. His quality of life is plain to see, his financial assets are there for all to see and his opinions are plain to see. Beyond that, we cannot possibly know what he does not have.

>All these people saying he has low INT despite having an IQ of 156, which he has repeatedly demonstrated by his incredible business success and unparallelled mastery of persuasion.

Sixteen defeated candidates and liberals STILL aren't taking Trump seriously. Oh man this election is going to be such a cakewalk if they keep mistaking his mastery of branding for buffoonery just because he has New York mannerisms.

The guy has next to no actual work experience. His decades in politics have yielded no real successes - he got a few post offices renamed and that's about it. He's good at grandstanding, I'll give you that.

>IQ
>meaningful in any practical sense

TYPING IN CAPS MAKES ME RIGHT

>IQ and success in the most competitive market in the world
>Not meaingful in any practical sense

Holy shit, he made billions, how is that not a practical thing to do?

Fucking bern victims.

Sanders is in bankers pockets

Enthusiastic trump voters will believe anything.

IQ is an excellent predictor of success

>The point
>The Andromeda Galaxy
>Your head

The point is, if Clinton wants to defeat Trump, if liberals want to stop Trump, they have to take him seriously. They have tried insulting and demeaning him like they do to every conservative and it just doesn't work on him.

They call him stupid, simple, and unpersuasive, because they want to believe he is stupid, simple, and unpersuasive. But he literally just gone done conquering the GOP, full on outsider takeover of the party of Lincoln while making some of their best candidates look like a bunch of saps.

If the Democrats go into this election thinking Trump is going to be an easy opponent or a fool, they are going to get destroyed by his mastery of persuasion just like every other candidate he's faced so far has been.

I've seen Democrats and liberal talking heads for weeks now, BEGGING people on the Left to take Trump seriously, because they've seen the writing on the wall, and know that its going to be an uphill battle for Hillary.

Lawful Good, of course.

IGNORING THE REST OF THE POST TO FOCUS ON THE FORMATTING MAKES ME RIGHT

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Yeah, they really have no idea what's coming.

Bitter Bernie Bros staying home on election day, blue collar guys who usually vote Democrat defecting, white collar guys who are socially liberal but just lost their job to Pajeets jumping on the bandwagon... Shillary doesn't stand a chance.

>Best candidates
I think that's more to do with how shit the GOP has gotten. As for Trump, the reason some people still don't take him seriously is because of how much he continues to dig his own grave. He can't win the general with the support he's got now, and he's not going to win over independents if he keeps pissing off hispanics and women.

>But unlike President Barack Obama, who refused campaign contributions from registered lobbyists, Sanders’ campaign confirmed it does not ban lobbyists from making contributions — even as Sanders has called on the Democratic Party to maintain a ban, implemented by Obama, on lobbyists giving to the Democratic National Committee.

>Top Backers
>Amazon
>Apple
>Alphabet Inc

You know that last one is? Google, the company that evades and avoides the most taxes in the US outside of Apple and Amazon. Funny how they would be Bernie Sanders top lobbyists? They pay the least tax and have relocated HQs and head offices outside the US just so they can avoid paying 'their fair share'.

BEING COAXED INTO A SNAFU BY SHITTY TROLLING MAKES YOU A RETARD

Didn't he recetly poll as being more popular than hillary