How much AP3 does Tau need to bring at 750-1000 points?
Is one team of TL plasma crisis suits and two hammerheads sufficient for killing MEQ/TEQ at that level?
Ryan Sullivan
I was just reading through the Crimson Slaughter Supplement.
If I play a 1750 point game where I bring a fully loaded Cult of Slaughter and then bring an Allied formation that is Typhus and a squad of Plague Marines in a Rhino (Just to quickly move up to grab objectives) Then could I turn all of the Cultists into Plague Zombies in order to slowly plod their way up the field, constantly getting back up after getting riddled with bullets that they are shrugging off, thanks to FNP.
I realize this army will be shit, but I am genuinely curious as to if the rules would allow it. I mean, Typhus' rules state that any Cultist in the same army (Not formation) as him, can be nominated as a Plague Zombie.
I just like the idea of 240 Plague Zombies plodding up the field and giving no fucks as to how many bullets get shot into them.
Josiah White
First for Inquisition has better and more plentiful Daemon weapons then Chaos.
Chase Roberts
WE CONTINUE POSTING LISTS
Heres my alternate list for when I don't want an hour long movement phase
Wyatt Stewart
Oh, I should've added: Ion Cannon or Rail hammerheads?
3 shot S7 AP3 + Large Blast mode, or S10 AP1 + submunitions blast?
William Price
Just wanted to continue from the old thread
Have an upcoming "beginners" tournament, 750pts, not sure what to run. I have Daemons, but I find they aren't great at low points (maybe I'm just shit?). Looking for advice one what to run.
Tournament limitations:
1 HQ or Lord of War 1 Elites 1 Troops 1 Fast Attack 1 Heavy Support 0-1 Auxilary (any ONE of the following : Elites, Troops, Fast Attack, Heavy Support, Fortification)
NO Super Heavies, Gargantuan Creatures, Mighty Bulwarks or Fortification Networks.
Also has to be "friendly" enough not the be veto'd by the TO's, but competitive enough to have a chance.
Nicholas Turner
CAD - 1500
++Chaos Space Marines++
+HQ+
Typhus (warlord) 230
Chaos Sorcerer (Mark of Nurgle, Bike, ML3, Sigil of Corruption) 170
+HQ+ Great Unclean One (ML3, Greater+Exhaulted Reward) 290
+Troops+ 10x Plaguebearers (Plagueridden, Instrunment of Chaos, Icon of Chaos) 115
10x Plaguebearers (Plagueridden, Instrunment of Chaos, Icon of Chaos) 115
Evan King
dub
Christian Ortiz
Actually, sorry, let me put it this way.
750 points:
>Ethereal >3x Crisis suits with TL plasma and cyclic ion blaster >2x hammerheads (ion? rail?) + disruption pods >10x Firewarriors strikers + missile turret >10x Kroot + sniper rounds
Is good? Major weaknesses? don't say add riptide
Tyler Taylor
>Just wanted to continue from the old thread But not also add any of the units you actually have or anything like that. You got responses...
William Baker
I suspect that the cultists would have to be in the same detachment as typhus in order to become zombies, but I could be wrong.
Michael Sullivan
Looks pretty good, theres enough dakka between the ethereal and fire warriors such that you won't have to worry much about MEq. Looks like you're on the right track
add riptide wing
Ian Moore
So recently my boss gifted me of this, the Emperor's Children lord.
I am an EC and it's nice that is now OOP, but honestly I don't like the model. Especially the face.
Have you ever seen some good conversion based on this mini? Some suggestions maybe?
Gabriel Gonzalez
Anyone know what a good Melee based 'Nidzilla list looks like?
Ryan Gomez
At work so this might be a bit off but this is my 3000pt list I will be adding three fliers to for a cool 3500:
Sammael - 200 >Corvex (Jetbike) Interrogator Chaplain ~160 >Mace of Redemption, Bike Techmarine - 110 >Servo-Harness, Bike ~275? Command Squad w/ 6 Bikers >Apoth,Champ, RW Banner, 1 Grenade Launcher 3 Units of 3 Bikers - 115ea >2 Grav, CombiGrav 3 Units of 6 Black Knights - 240ea >1 Grenade Launcher 2 Darkshrouds - 95ea >Assault Cannon
Support Squadron ~245 >Darkshroud w/ Heavy Bolter >3 Landspeeders w/ Double Heavy Bolter
As I said in the last thread too, the units I have aren't an issue, I'm happy to buy an entirely new 750 point army for this.
And none of the responses I got fit the list limitations or were particularly friendly enough to not be veto'd, so there really wasn't anything to add, but thanks.
Juan Thomas
>u wot m8
Jayden Ramirez
Josh?
Eli Morales
Sorry mate, dunno who he is.
Jaxson Thomas
Why aren't snipers better?
Jackson Gray
Yeah, sorry, my friend's been talking about 'nidzillas nonstop for a few days and wanting a melee focus, despite loving bio-guns. Said he was gonna ask around online, then I seen your post. Oh well.
Nicholas Mitchell
>A fucking Railgun as a primary weapon >ION BLASTERS as secondary weapons >missile pod as tertiary weapon Everything's fucked
Jeremiah Collins
>3 Dark Shrouds >4 Skilled Rider Units (5 if the conclave rides alone) >Conclave that doesn't belong to you
It looks like you want to win with all the AP2 spam but I don't think you can reliably deal with Fliers or hordes.
Anyone bringing ignore cover will just ruin your gimmick.
Benjamin Cook
Dont have too many suggestions for you lad, except replace the sword too while you're at it. Looks like shit.
Jace Peterson
And let's not forget the 4 seeker missiles
Ryder Gutierrez
>a fa/tg/uy from the /wip/ threads got a job at Forgeworld
Levi Jones
ca/tg/irl actually.
Mason Russell
Im glad the Barracudas back since its a cool looking plane but fuck, I'm afraid it'll rape everything. I hope they update the THunderbolt soon
Gavin Sanchez
Didn't know they weren't good. Whenever I see them they are used on camocloaked scouts that are camping objectives so it gives them decent range and the chance to pick off things. If I ever have to actually get troops it will be 2x5 sniper scouts so I can actually use a CAD.
>It looks like you want to win with all the AP2 spam but I don't think you can reliably deal with Fliers or hordes.
I wouldn't say it is full WAAC but it isn't a bad list. I ordered the flier formation so I can deal with anti-air and against hordier armies I have typhoon missiles and heavy bolters magnetized for my Attack Squadrons.
Also it isn't such a gimmick as the only way to play pure ravenwing at such a high point value. I have no objective secured so I have to rely on doing some damage to the enemy so I can make my mad dash to objectives when the time comes.
Adrian Diaz
>New Barracuda
Well, my prayers for something Tau from forgeworld that wasn't another battlesuit have been answered.
Kayden Roberts
SORRY, gue'la, but you fucking monkeys don't GET to rival the firepower of the TECHNOLOGICALLY SUPERIOR Tau Empire, okay?
Nolan King
Well that explains that
Adam Hughes
4 seeker missiles? Or 4 Destroyer missiles?
Brayden Collins
Anyone know when the new Flyer supplement Death From the Skies will be added to mega as a pdf? I'd like to flip through it before deciding if I want to buy it.
Also does anyone know when we'll have pdfs of the four AoS Grand Alliance books as pdfs?
Carson Murphy
It'd be seeker. The Barracuda isn't a superheavy
Dominic Thomas
>the new Flyer supplement Death From the Skies will be added to mega as a pdf? When someone is shitty enough to buy it. Mostly everything has been leaked if you did your research though.
>AoS anything Wrong thread, though hopefully never.
Skip or delete the epub version, unless that's really your bag.
Angel Evans
Everything is supposed to be Air Superiority, Strafing Run, or Bomber now, right?
Which is the Barracuda?
Isaac Perry
Razorshark is an Attack flyer, Sunshark is a bomber. (The interceptor drones still have skyfire, though, and can even detach during the dogfight phase, so the sunshark is the best anti-fighter codex flier.)
Barracuda's fluff has always been air superiority, so I'm guessing it'll be a fighter.
Joseph Campbell
>I'll just blow it up in this new phase while in reserves so it never even enters the game
Josiah Howard
Why must evert tau flyer be ugly
Elijah Myers
To sell more suits.
Nathaniel Watson
They're fine art lower costs, but sinking points into them doesn't work. They make decent objective campers, reliable sources of pinning when you have an opponent that can effect, and can threaten monstrous creatures effectively. They just fall short when killing standard troops.
Hunter Sanders
Every 40k flyer is ugly.
Grayson Carter
Is that gonna be a long barreled burst cannon or a heavy burst cannon? Will those be cyclic ion rakers or just regular ion blasters?
Hunter Brown
See IA14 this summer to find out!
Andrew Hill
The one on the right of the nose looks suspiciously like an Ion Cannon.
Nolan Richardson
Of course it's an ion cannon. I'm talking about the ones on the wings
Jaxson Cruz
>I wouldn't say it is full WAAC >30+ AP2 Weapons >Librarius Conclave
You can't defend this, I don't care if you have ObSec or not.
Isaiah Miller
Do they typically announce new things at Warhammer Fest?
Like... new Tyranid codices? Or Ork codices?
Ryder Morris
>Do they typically announce new things at Warhammer Fest?
The release a bit before it but usually the fest has other stuff going on.
Ork Codex is NOT happening again this edition. Perhaps next year. In 8th edition
If you are lucky Tyranids right before the new edition hits.
Benjamin Hill
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Adam Wright
I feel like both of those armies need a Tau treatment. They're basically 5th edition books + model lines.
8e is rumored for September right? Maybe there's hope.
Camden Barnes
>You can't defend this
To you I suppose, but thankfully we don't play. It is a 3000point list and I am not sure if you play at that point level often but Pure Ravenwing starts to crumble a bit if you don't bring the pain first. It makes for great games with good fights.
Blake Taylor
Hope you're excited for a Tau vs Admech/RedScorpions Imperial Armour book.
Josiah Rogers
More like Tau vs Red Scorpions vs Admech. Friggin team ditching toasters.
Alexander Nelson
Since list posting is now a thing maybe someone can help me find a way to bring my list to 2k? I've shelved my Sisters and started work on a IA13 Renegades list themed around being Chaos Scions with Covenants of Tzeentch:
Renegade Command Squad +Autocannon Heavy Weapons Team +Bloody Handed Reaver +Covenant of Chaos +Power Weapon +Chimera +Militia Training +Auto Cannon Total: 170
Renegade Heavy Ordnance Battery 3 Earthshaker Cannons +12 Crewmen (four per gun) +Militia Training Total: 156
Current List Total: 1765
Oliver Bell
I play Tau, so I welcome any new stuff, but eventually there won't be any races left to play against. There's already no Orks, CSM, or Tyranids in my local tournament meta (one dude keeps bringing Dark Eldar though).
Cooper Long
Can anyone think of any particular space marine chapters that are tied especially close to the Admech? I've got a chaos warband called "The Spiders from Mars" and I want to be able to specify what chapter they deserted from. I also want to start a loyalist army soon, and thats the obvious go-to.
Hunter Walker
Well, the fight is taking place on an old/abandoned forge world, so I don't think AdMech is bailing early this time.
Adam Myers
Steel Confessors are the biggest ones.
Jonathan White
Iron Hands are the big ones. Their successors and the schism chapter successor Sons of Medusa would also fit pretty well.
Jonathan Flores
Iron Hands Sons of Medusa Steel Confessors (literally an official Ad Mech sanctioned chapter) Storm Wardens Aurora Chapter
Jeremiah Reyes
Iron Hands are the obvious ones, didn't want to go there.
Steel Confessors seem pretty great though, reading up now. Cheers.
Xavier Rivera
Any reason you bought Militia Training on the Hellhounds? Templates aren't affected by BS.
Gabriel Wright
It's got 6 barrels, rather than 4, so if the profile already exists, it's going to be heavy and not long. That said, it'll need access to a nova reactor or a special rule to get the nova profile.
Lincoln Morris
Just rip off the head and replace it with maybe a raptor or Warp talon champion head
Some converting later you could make him into a decent Fabius bile proxy, or a burning brand lord maybe. Or just a cool champ, his backpack is worth using
Joshua Jones
Bloody Handed Reaver makes you take it on anything that can take it. It's a tax.
Jacob Price
Fair enough.
Daniel Scott
8 S6 shots is already pretty good. Even AV12 flyers will have to watch out from getting glanced to death.
Jayden Adams
What do you guys think of the Tech Priest Dominus? Are they good units, do they feel like a tax? In my experience they have been a solid unit, but others I've talked to have said they really suck.
Bentley Smith
Honestly considering how much firepower it unlocks in the Vet squads (basically 4 special weapons) I can live with the tax, though I wish the command squad and Disciples could take the Grenadier upgrade too.
Tyler Lopez
I wonder if GW is gonna update FMC with aerial assaults.
Andrew Morales
So the Tau hold the Damocles Gulf now?
Does that mean Iron Snakes are retconned?
David Parker
Damocles Gulf got set on fire and is curre tly near impassable.
Austin Thompson
This made me chuckle.
Levi Gray
Tidewall has Identification protocols that keep it from being shot by non-tau models, at least.
Wyatt Hill
I sure as balls am!
Alexander Ward
Is a jump pack libbie conclave in a power sword vanguard jump squad a bad choice as a deathstar?
Isaac Cox
Tau still hold many worlds of in the gulf, and still have a large force there. However, the Damocles Gulf is cut off from the main Tau septs and Tau worlds and forces there will have to be self reliant for the forseeable future.
David Young
IG riot shields when?
Gavin Johnson
Iron Snakes have a Damocles squad, but that seems to have nothing at all to do with the Damocles Gulf. In fact, the chapter's homeworld isn't even in the same Segmentum.
Easton Adams
Trying to figure out which skaven kit is going to be the best proxy for that.
Carter Edwards
If I wanted to have a C'tan shard based on the void dragon, what model might I want to use?
Henry Ross
It's a fighter so good luck.
Robert Martinez
>Mechanicum >Horus Heresy
Isaiah Jackson
>railgun >seeker missiles >ion turrets >missile pods Imagine this thing for the players that don't want to use the Death in the Skies expansion. oh dear
Nolan Cooper
Personally I'd a kitbash of the Mortarch kit using just the mount with some necron bits to make it more canoptek-like.
Cooper Young
Even with Death to the Skies, it'll hit ground targets at -1BS. Not an issue for Tau with marker support.
Now, give me some cheap flying transports to get that sweet ObjSec and the reserve bonuses from that Air Superiority detachment.
Colton Walker
For the love of the Star Gods, the Damocles Gulf is an inhospitable zone of unstable space. Nobody settles there because they can't.
What you guys mean is the worlds beyond the Gulf which are still fine.
Juan Nelson
>ObjSec Mantas AAAAAAAAAAAA
Aaron Miller
Thing is so big it makes me wonder how many Objs it can Sec at once.
Cooper Sanchez
Can someone explain what happened to skew the Eye of Terror campaign results years back?
Owen Ortiz
RAW? Only one
It's effective board presence will make up for that though
Michael Miller
The thing I don't get about DttS is that it describes Attack Fighters as being used against ground and air, but they have no benefit for attack air compaired to bombers or basically anything.
I can't figure out why they didn't give them -1bs when shooting air, or basically anything that would imply they are more anti-air than a bomber.
Nurgle is my go to guy but I think if you're going to sink the points into typhus then you need to go big or go home on the zombies and get at least 60-90. Have you considered running the FW guy that gives you even better zombies for cheaper? They move faster and have a 4+ FNP.