Is it possible to do catgirls right, or does their inclusion automatically make anything into a weebfest?

yeah, sure, it's easy.
Just play with someone not from Veeky Forums. You know, people who haven't been permanently broken by over internet exposure into seeing things as pure fetish material, and can still appreciate cats. Hell, the idea that things can't have sex appeal period because some creepy guy weirded someone on Veeky Forums out once is the strangest neo-puritan shit, and I never really got that given all the roots of the various genres our games are made of.

I should go and rewatch Escaflowne.

If you don't get where the "neo-puritan shit" is coming from, you clearly been blessed with god-tier luck in never getting weeabos and That Guys in your game. It's less that Veeky Forums is puritan, and more than fetishy things are 9.99/10 times a big bright red flag that the person you're playing with is going to be nothing but problems.

That and most players who are interested in doing anime'ish "seriously" usually won't be asking random strangers on the internet if it's OK. They'd do a few games with their group WITHOUT breaking out the weeaboo stuff first, so their group could understand they're not That Guy first.

It's less that I'm blessed and more that Veeky Forums are insane about that one bad experience they had and are now triggered by anything even remotely similar from then on out.

The Elder Scrolls did them right.

>One bad experience.

Try the same bad experience over... and over... and over... and over... and over again. At least for anyone who's ever tried to do online stuff.

Why are "done right" and "weebfest" on a binary scale together?

Not buying it, user.
You've got to have critically thin skin and a teensy safe zone to get this goddamn traumatized over the average shit you find on the internet.
God forbid you have to play with a group of reddits, tumblers, and furfags.

Make them cursed humans who steal lives to keep their immortality. The souls of their victims are turned into zombies and try to warn potential victims away from their damned fate.

It's not even trauma though. Just dissapointment. Dissapointment at the wasted potential that could have been, but wasn't because the typical traditional gamer nowadays is a social outcast weeabo who is utterly incapable of doing anything aside from stupid anime tropes and has no sense of social grace or self-control no matter how much they try to lie to themselves that they do.

Social malnourishment is a bad thing, and way too many people in this hobby are suffering from severe cases of it.

Yes. Just don't make them a single-gender race and don't make cuteness their sole defining trait. Worked for me - i currently have 2 important catpeople NPCs and they're taken seriously.
>make it GRIMDARK
and then there's this faggot

>Social malnourishment is a bad thing, and way too many people in this hobby are suffering from severe cases of it.

This. Pretty ironic for what's supposed to be a social hobby. Too bad most of the people on Veeky Forums don;t actually play traditional games, and just use them as a vehicle to ego-wank over their own shitty fanfictions and "original" creations.

user, if your dissapointment in a thing done badly is so great you refuse to let it happen ever again, that crosses over into disruptive trauma.

AND I'm disappointed in you for being so generally weak.

And another thing, fuck the entire premise of your anti-trope whatever. I'm sick of this pointless hipsterism and rebelliousness.

>>make it GRIMDARK
>and then there's this faggot

It's actually from a kids movie, you know.

what movie?

Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island

Thanks, user.
it still sounds stupid as fuck outside of context.

Make everyone an animal in human form and the humans the special snowflakes.

Also don't forget the males.

>but wasn't because the typical traditional gamer nowadays is a social outcast weeabo who is utterly incapable of doing anything aside from stupid anime tropes and has no sense of social grace or self-control no matter how much they try to lie to themselves that they do.
Maybe you should stop searching for players on /erp/.

Have you ever considered not playing RPGs in environments where insanity is the default? Like, I don't know, actual real life, like an actual person?

The argument that online players are bad is laughable. No shit they are. Otherwise they'd have IRL groups.

Yes

>erp
>Implying "normal" RP communities aren't as bad as Veeky Forums when it comes to idiots shoving their fetishes into everything.

So you have no idea what you're arguing about, why didn't you just say so?

Hey, I don't shove my fetish into everything. I only take advantage of whatever's in the GM's setting, and only if I can pass it off as normal stuff.

An abomination. Just like its parents.

>red flag

This.

Often women will play important roles in my settings, but never girls or other children. Nor cats. WTF? So, "catgirls" are right out and anytime someone tries to shoe-horn anything REMOTELY like bestiality or paedophilia into my game, I can usually shut them down with one question:

Why?

They'll sometimes splutter for a bit and then straighten up, and that's that - but sometimes, they'll start blahblahing a yaddayadda about yackedy shmackedy while their face turns slowly red. Eventually, I'll stop them and ask again. If they can give no good reason why their suspect request is relevant to the setting, they are denied - and marked for further scrutiny. After that, it's up to them if they want to stay on, but if they do, they'll be on double-secret probation until they've proven themselves mature enough to trust. People who want to sit at my table licking their hands and NYANNing will be asked to leave and never return.

No handshake, either.

user, i understand your argument, but try wording it in a less retarded way.
Because holy shit, this is the most retarded post i read today.

>Why?
I'm presuming "because it's cute" isn't a valid reason? Some people like cute things for non-sexual reasons.

Does everyone else find it cute?

>Also don't forget the males.
that's how you spot a furry, if he demands there to be cutesy wutesy catboys.
Even more-so when he starts asking if they have cat-like dicks

I like the Miqo'te and Mithra of FFXI and XIV, I like the idea of them as a nomadic hunter-gatherer society. A cross between that and the Khajit from Elder Scrolls would be neat.

Nothing confined to the realm of imagination is impossible, but that doesn't mean it's wise to try.

Most people don't care or don't make a big deal out of it.

>cutesy-wutesy catboys
And that's how you spot a faggot.

>Race as a society
Even FF XIV didn't do that, and that's a goddamn MMO.

>>Race as a society
gypsies

Make them muscle girls.

>red flag

This.

Often dwarves will play important roles in my settings, but never halfling or other short races. Nor gnomes. WTF? So, "wee folk" are right out and anytime someone tries to shoe-horn anything REMOTELY like humor or paedophilia into my game, I can usually shut them down with one question:

Why?

They'll sometimes splutter for a bit and then straighten up, and that's that - but sometimes, they'll start blahblahing a yaddayadda about yackedy shmackedy while their face turns slowly red. Eventually, I'll stop them and ask again. If they can give no good reason why their suspect request is relevant to the setting, they are denied - and marked for further scrutiny. After that, it's up to them if they want to stay on, but if they do, they'll be on double-secret probation until they've proven themselves mature enough to trust. People who want to sit at my table fapping to CP on their phone will be asked to leave and never return.

No handshake, either.

That gif is a perfect explanation of what OP and his type are like. The sad part is, they're so far deep in their own social awkwardness that they can't even come close to seeing it.

Kirk fucked catgirls, its all good

"Because it's cute" is a pretty shallow thing to base a character concept around.

Weve got two catfolk in our dnd group and it works well because they treat the tropes as if someone said a racial slur.

Wisdom.

Yep. The only time you have problems is when people sperg out about catgirls while playing an Elf or some such. Complaints that are generally unreasonable. Behold:
>catgirl-girl with cat ears(and tail)
>Elf Girl-Girl with elf ears
>Dwarf Girl- Girl with height problems. Beard not optional.
So they're about as sensible as any other fantasy race. Clearly the problem is the Female Gender, it's full of fetishes.

Who?

A dude from my group played catpeople as a vicious, tough warrior race who treated cutesy weeb stereotypes as insulting slurs, that was amusing.

Can't make lightning strike twice, user.

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We're trying to distance the character from my fetishes though.

Sounds like a cool guy.

>Is it possible to do catgirls right
Anythings possible user, it just might not be easy

curses, foiled again!

Thundercats.

Why is this fetish so common here?

>tfw i play as just that

Of all the possible fetishes to get worked up over, catgirls seem like a very vanilla one. They're just aesthetic features in the end.

Technically speaking catgirls are monster girls, which opens up a potentially nasty can of worms.

The first catfolk spotted in my campaign was a catperson busing dishes off tables at the tavern. When confronted, he said what he was, and then brushed off other questions because he was busy.

>um... uh...???
my sides.
Lucky. Our first Catfolk proceeded to kick our collective ass. Natural attacks hurt. I eventually resorted to grappling her and letting the party stab through me.

>does their inclusion automatically make anything into a weebfest
Why would that mean that you're not doing catgirls right?

Me too, dude. My catfolk necromancer pimp slapped the ranger when she tried to make him play with a ball od wool. I played him as a cheery dude with macabre humor, but counting the nomadic desert people culture he was raised with and his proud character, I decided it was the smartest thing to do. Just to make her understand that he wasn't a cutesy catboi but a trained sorcerer from the desert. One of the coolest character I ever played.

Because it's barely a fetish. Catgirls are about as deviant as anime porn. In addition, without getting too in depth, I believe that the cute/moe aesthetic of anime in general directly leads to this. Mostly because when you apply cat-like/kitten-like behavior to humans, it leads to a number of scenarios that are 'moe' and therefore service the 'plot' of most generic trashy cat-girl anime. Also, a lot of people on this website watch anime even if they aren't weebs

You're pretty good.

>paranoid, traumatized neo-Veeky Forums puritans try to explain why they refuse to include things that make them uncomfortable

Goddamn, even the most minor of shit gets you guys weeping about fetish this and that.

You know what the real red flag is for bad players?

If someone freaks out if you include a catgirl, the most bland and vanilla of non-standard fantasy races, you know they're going to be an awful player who will bitch every time you make a change in the setting. At best.

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You know the second was a mockery of the first, right?

Yeah, but it still applies.
A guy who freaks out because dwarves aren't part of his hugbox is just as bad as a guy who freaks out because cats aren't a part of his hugbox.

>Is it possible to do catgirls right
Yes. Base them off of lions instead of housecats.

>At least for anyone who's ever tried to do online stuff.
>the typical traditional gamer nowadays is a social outcast weeabo who is utterly incapable of doing anything aside from stupid anime tropes and has no sense of social grace or self-control no matter how much they try to lie to themselves that they do.
Man, bars really suck. Why does anyone go to them? Literally EVERY SINGLE TIME I go to Shafts, the place near my apartment in the Castro, there hasn't been a single woman there and guys wearing way too much leather aggressively hit on me. Not only that, the bartender fucks up anything more complicated than a rum and coke. It's almost like people don't even go there to drink. I hate this generation so fucking much. What happened to the days when you could just go to a bar, get a well made cocktail or a pint of something decent, and drink in peace like a normal person?

>weeaboo excuses

>bitching about weeaboos on Veeky Forums
Poor form, chad.

...ever considered that it might be a gay bar?

>there are people in this thread who genuinely, unironically do not understand sarcasm and funposting

>"funposting"

>funposting.

Wow, how can someone this stupid still manage to use a computer? That's just how bars are nowadays. I don't go to many because I don't enjoy being hit on by leather clad men, but my bald friend with all the windmill tattoos says everyone is turning into a degenerate.

See, this is how you properly answer such a post.

>A dude from my group played catpeople as a vicious, tough warrior race who treated cutesy weeb stereotypes as insulting slurs, that was amusing.

FOR THE GLORY OF KILRAH

>windmill tattoos
Must be a Cervantes fan. Sounds like a good guy.

Because it's barely a fetish. Even in western culture, it's still a thing for combining women with animal-like features for the sexualization aspect, e.g. Catwoman, Playboy bunnies, etc etc.

>They're just aesthetic features in the end.
That's exactly why it's fucking stupid. It's straight up asking "Can I play this special snowflake character where they are different from dirty humans because they have a second set of ears and a tail?"

>implying Khajiit aren't the best catpeople around

Thundercats are better.

How is that any different from any other typical fantasy race?

See, this is why not accepting catgirls is a red flag.
Guys like this freak the fuck out over incredibly minor changes in vaguely racist ways.

Khajiit has wares, if you have coin.

Red Dwarf managed it.

i.e., a joke.

You underestimate how degenerate we are, and what we'll be happy to waifu over.

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I actually had a conversation with a friend of mine about stray cats that your post reminded me of.

>There were a lot of stray cats in that city, but you can't pet them or they might bite you.
>Well, of course.
>Why?
>Think about it. You're just walking through that city, too. Right? What if someone just walked right up to you and started rubbing your back and head.
>Never thought about it like that...

She treats unfamiliar animals like people now.

Actually it does, the different societies have mostly integrated into one as a wider nation but there's still plenty of evidence for it.

The Lalafell were builders, and are now the core of trade (aka jews, hello conspiracy plots in main scenario). Roegadyn are a sailor society (Rogue class quests touch on this, as well as the divide between pirates and the Lominsan navy - on both sides it's primarily Roegadyn). Miqo'te are hunter-gatherers (for the Keepers of the Moon, talked about in some of the Archer class quests) and manly muh-honor arab samurai (for the Keepers of the Sun, main scenario arc in Southern Thanalan). Hyur are mostly immigrants from other countries (such as Doma) but seem to have no implied culture, Elezen are haughty forest elves (most quests in Gridania show how they're basically all racist assholes).

All of these races are integrated into wider Eorzean society. There are Lalafell hunter-gatherers, Elezen sailors, Miqo'te snob-archers. It doesn't really matter all that much because the different races have coexisted long enough to integrate. It's even implied that pure-blooded Garleans integrate just fine in countries they conquer, as well as people from them integrating back into Garlean society.

I don't know jack shit about the Au'ra, though. As far as I can tell they don't live outside of Ishgard and there's been no discussion in any quests I've done of their culture or origins. Pretty sure they were added just as fanservice.

I like FFXIV's setting a lot - for vidya, it's very fleshed out, including stuff you never actually see; you just have to wade through a lot of slow ass dialogue and mechanics that may not be your cup of tea to get any of it. I'd run it if my main group weren't straight-faced anti-weeb fuckers who can't even bear to hear mention of Japan as a country.