So tomorrow I'm going to have around ~$180 of spending money on whatever the fuck I want because bills are paid and groceries are bought. I want to try to get into a sci-fi tabletop game but I don't know where to start. I don't have much time to devote to stuff like painting and stuff, so that's almost off the table. I'm not saying that I wouldn't try it though.
I do have a local gaming store, been there a couple times and the owner is a pretty cool dude. Sparked my interest in tabletop, but I never had the money. Now that I have a little bit of spending cash, I thought "might as well."
So, Veeky Forums, where should I start?
Pic related, roughly where my painting skills would be at this current moment.
Adrian Hernandez
>I don't have much time to devote to stuff like painting and stuff, so that's almost off the table.
Maybe you should think about if you'll have time for tabletops then, user.
Are you looking for a pen-and-paper game? Board games? I assume not miniatures, since you said you'd prefer not to paint. "Tabletops" is a pretty vague topic.
Chase Ramirez
Miniatures would be cool, but my pen-and-paper days are over and I never got into board games.
Evan Long
just play video games like a normal person
Jonathan Diaz
>Miniatures would be cool >I don't have much time to devote to stuff like painting
user please. If you just want to play games with friends, you can find board games you like or just play video games. If you really want to do miniatures, painting and assembling is also part of the enjoyment, don't discredit it as a chore or something. Also unless you just want to paint, there sort of needs to be other people at the store that also play whichever wargame.
Sebastian Hernandez
or board games
Tyler Hughes
normal people don't play board games
unless you mean playing Scrabble or Monopoly with your kids on a rainy evening
Liam Wright
First, don't spend cash when you get the PDF's of most RPG's right here on /tg. If you do want the print version use PrintMe1 as they're cheap and do good quality.
Jayden Green
why?
Austin White
It seems like Battletech is what you want. It's got a sci fi universe that's basically 'Game of Thrones with mecha instead of incest', the miniatures don't really need to be painted, and $180 is way more than you'll really need. Start with spending $60 on the Introductory Box Set.
Jordan Walker
Look at board games, some of them plays like minis but don't require you to paint and collect since they come with everything you'll need to play.
Otherwise games loke x-wing allows you to collect figurines but come prepaint.
You should look at what people play at your LGS and ask the manager to try a game and see if you like it.
Isaac Young
Nah, not true.
Boardgames are pretty popular and not just the vanilla stuff
Jason Wilson
Well, X-wing comes pre-painted and I think you can build a nice fleet with 180 dollars
If you dont mind dedicating time to painting and assembling Id recomend Malifaux, its not expensive and its absolutely god-tier game
Brody Cox
Stay away from 40k unless you have lots of disposable income.
Try Star Grunt or Tomorrows War. You can use 40k figures of you want, but you're only looking at 20-30 guys and a vehicle or two per side rather than need to buy/paint hundreds
Wyatt Edwards
Find people to play with. Find army or faction you like in game you like and get some figures - recommending searching ebay or similar for cheaper used bundles to start with. The hideous paints of ham-fisted previous owners can usually be removed and improved upon if you have time and interest in that,
Jason Sanchez
infinity is fun as fuck and you can get a great army for well well within your budget but it is one you'd have to paint.
pre-painted wise you basicly just have X-wing and that's about it because the others are mostly trash.
Oliver Morales
pretty popular in your non-normie circles
Justin Wilson
Cant deny that the boardgame market is pretty big.
Jonathan Young
>printme1 Are they fussy about copywrite? I have some scanned textbooks that would be useful printed
Ryan Long
if you're talking about Mouse Trap and Cluedo then yes
if you're talking Carcasonne and Arkham Horror then it really isn't
Dominic Wood
Carcassone is mainstream as fuck
Ian Hall
mainstream in your non-normie circles
Alexander Sanders
videogames are boring, repetitive and don't provide enough immersion
Nathaniel King
Mainstream enough for me to find it on the trash of my apartment building
Parker Wood
Haven't tried textbooks yet, but they have no problem with the copyrighted RPGs I sent them.
Luke Williams
X-Wing is the only game worth playing if you don't paint and only have a small amount of money to spend.
Be aware each ship costs quite a lot of money for a small pre-painted toy, but the game doesn't require vast armies or fleets to play.
Daniel White
Trying it now. We'll see what happens
Jayden Taylor
>in the trash
what does that tell you?
Samuel Sanchez
I play literally everything. Have played TTWG for 15+ years.
Infinity is my favorite. Best rules, best fluff and by FAR the best models. Would highly recommend.
X wing is fine, rules aren't very deep but fun, unfortunately balance is really weird post wave 9. Prefer Armada but that is slower paced.
GW games are a waste of money IMO, and I would know.
Have enjoyed PP post colossals, but 3rd ed sounds interesting.
Anyway, would recommend Infinity.
Angel Miller
Doom is legitimately the only video game I've enjoyed in like 4 years. The rest of them were so slow.
Halo 5 was alright but >>>>console
tabletop is where it's at
Easton Sanchez
Not op. Is d&d attack wing dead? Dang.I picked the wrong horse....oh well on to x-wing I guess
Grayson Watson
Without knowing what your particular tastes are or what the people you are likely to play with enjoy, I really like Star Wars: Imperial Assault. It's character scale combat in Star Wars.
The core set is a little bit pricy, but gives you enough to fully run both a campaign that is good for 11 sessions of semi co-op (one player is the Imperials, up to four others are the Rebel heroes), and a 1v1 skirmish game. You could build both a Rebel and an Imperial skirmish list right out of the core box, although they aren't highly competitive.
The miniatures aren't pre-painted, and they do look a lot better even with basic paint jobs, but you don't really need to paint them.
Bentley Howard
Oh, and for your $180 budget, you could get the core set and the big Return to Hoth expansion, with a little bit leftover to pick up an individual pack or two.
Josiah Moore
literally the only advantages tabletop wargames like 40k have over video games are 1) the modelling, painting, general appreciation of plastic army men and 2) social hobby, hanging out with people to play a game at the shop and the occasional tournament. if you do not have the time or inclination to get good at painting, you really should consider another hobby. if I wasn't in love with the models I wouldn't waste my time on 40k, there are much better games out there and most of them are in video form. 40k has notoriously shitty balance m8, so if you're just looking for a tight, tactical system for a fair challenge in a game then most wargames, not just 40k, are not what you are looking for.
I'm not trying to be super pessimistic, just realistic. I don't see any point in playing tabletop wargames if you don't like the models and painting since they are a massive part of the hobby. I suppose if you've got another few hundred bucks you could get them commission painted, but even then if you only want a nice looking army to win games with that's not going to happen cheaply either, because the meta constantly shifts and people who play to win at all costs are constantly buying new stuff. being a WAAC player is expensive. I just don't want you to go into the hobby with the wrong perspective and then realize you dropped a bucket of hard-earned dosh on something that's not for you.
Joseph Foster
you are aware that non-FPS games exist right
Jason White
>I don't know where to start Board game: X-wing (cheap, simple but good rules). Wargame: Infinity, Malifaux (but it's not sci-fi ).
Evan Ortiz
>the best models But hard to paint espacially for newcomers.
Hunter Perez
My favourite at the moment is Kings of War, just because it's so player-friendly. There's very little in the way of saying no to players, just lots of options, and it's well balanced enough that it doesn't break under cheesy lists. Agreed 100% on infinity though, great rules and beautiful models. GW are solid models, but the heroes are ridiculously expensive. Troop boxes are actually pretty reasonable, for the most part (some of the new stuff is noticeably more expensive.) Games are awful and you shouldn't play them.
Angel Bennett
Why is X-Wing a board game and Malifaux a wargame?
Anthony Fisher
>Is d&d attack wing dead? DOA Everything Wizkids is DOA
Lucas Roberts
Dunno, just my personal feelings after playing x-wing and Malifaux.
Logan Foster
>GW are solid models Yeah, that's why Games Workshop players making pictures like this.
Camden Nguyen
>implying GW doesn't have good looking models >implying CB doesn't have bad models
Picture proves nothing other than that you're a retard for thinking it means anything. Put a cool helmet on that marine or put any modern FW model up there, and put a previous generation CB mini on the left and you get the same effect swapped.
Jose Clark
>GW >good models Like this?
Blake Smith
>Haqqislam , women as soldiers kek
Cameron Robinson
Dude didn't even their fast attack units.
Julian Russell
Dude didn't even see their fast attack units.
Nathan Brooks
What's wrong with those? They look pretty great to me.
Carter Morris
It go through?
John Robinson
If you don't have a regular way to have $180 (by the way you posted you made it seem odd you had $180 to spend) at any given moment maybe starting a new hobby is a bad use of your money?
If you don't think it is a bad use of your money, you must ask yourself what purpose does thing your investing in serve beyond the things you already own.
The models, as many have said, are really the only thing that separate this hobby from video games. X Wing is really the only game that comes painted out of the box.
I would suggest playing video games or X Wing or a board game.
Nathaniel White
>The models, as many have said, are really the only thing that separate this hobby from video games.
Freedom and immersion seperates you from video games. If you and your friends decide something isn't fun enough you're free to go and tweak the rules however you want, you're free to paint and lore Your Dudes however you want, you're free to play wherever you want. etcetcetc
If you want to do that in a video game you have to go with the restrictions of the developers and engine and whatever.
and if you live in australia, video games is probably as if not more expensive than tabletop any fucking way, so
Colton Kelly
>They look pretty great to me. Of course, because it's Warhammer.
this is the thing that has always bothered me about infinity.
Wyatt Phillips
Came here to suggest this. Pretty robust community for it in most cities, and no painting.
Liam Young
>warhammer players >bitching about cartoony and anime Sci-fi aesthetic in other games kek
Robert Bell
the difference is that gw don't try to make it truescale.
you don't get to have both
i play warmachine my man
William Morgan
>gw don't try to make it truescale. And that's why all their models looks so fat and bulky.
Henry Clark
...when compared with true scale models though.
Levi Hernandez
Well yes, because it's obvious, heroicscale cannot compete with truthscale anymore.
Jaxon Miller
>I do have a local gaming store >but I don't know where to start
Start at your local gaming store, find out what people are playing, find out what the people who are playing the games are like.
There's not much point picking up a game because it looks interesting, only to discover that nobody plays it at your FLGS - or, worse, people do play it, but they're all twats. Doesn't matter how great the rules are, or the models, the maximum amount of enjoyment you're going to get is capped by the quality of the people you're playing with.