Warhammer 40k General

They have other issues in my mind too, but yes, leave the Battle Heels to those who don't wear power armor for sure.

Reposting from last thread
I'm most likely making a morghast harbringer and using it as a C'tan shard (likely to represent one of the void dragon), any tips on making it more C'tan-like if possible?

Because I only have the two Start Collecting boxes, I'm afraid to say.

>Mag'ladroth is named "The Void-Dragon" in Eldar mythology, which portrays it as a figure of oblivion, wanton destruction and devastation. It was a master of the material realm and its warriors were practically invincible. While eating stars it takes the form of a cloud of dark light.

web.archive.org/web/20050410234311/uk.games-workshop.com/necrons/eldar-mythology/3/

3/10 but you are trying and can learn with it.

Honestly in the future run a CAD and use your Infantry as Veterans and drop the heavy weapons and pick up some Chimeras.

Can always cut a Commisar in half and call it a Tank Commander Pask if you want.

no

2 leman russes at 500 points is a bit much

I honestly don't mind them, but they're better than the official ones simply due to poseability and price.

Replace it's arms with Morghasts.

>2 Leman Russ' at 500 pts.

That's a bit cheeky m80.
Not many army lists are packed with the Anti-Tank firepower to deal with two AV14-Front tanks at only 500 pts.

Okay? What now?

HQ

Cadre Fireblade

Troops

Strike Team
5x Fire Warriors with Pulse Rifles
DS8 Support Turret with Missile Pod

Strike Team
5x Fire Warriors with Pulse Rifles
DS8 Support Turret with Missile Pod

Optiminized Stealth Cadre

Stealth Suit Team
2x Shas'ui with Burst Cannon
1x Shas'ui with Fusion Blaster

Stealth Suit Team
2x Shas'ui with Burst Cannon
1x Shas'ui with Fusion Blaster

XV95 Ghostkeel
Cyclic Ion Raker
Twin-Linked Fusion Blaster
2x MV5 Stealth Drones

Bye bye Russys :3

(you)

Have to agree with and .
2 Leman Russ at 500 aren't dying reliably. They are just going to roll around and do whatever they like. I would be fine with 2 at 1000 but I play armies that can deal with it better than most.

How is it bait? I posted a 500 point list which will laugh at 2 Leman Russes. Unless you mean it's bait cause I deleted my post, then you're wrong as well for that.

To me the feel is more something I'd expect a Guardsman to imagine a Sister looks like over the real thing.

Delete this.

Leave unpainted and unprimed were possible. Hurts value.
Pack the models in the center of a box where the contents don't move around and don't touch the sides of the box.

>I specifically tailored my list to do exactly one task to wipe out two Leman Russes, completely knowing the list of my opponent prior to the game.

Here's your (you)

Possibly. I don't think they're perfect, but I don't think I have a choice. I want the Knights to run as Crusaders in a full female warband. Maybe the flying ones to represent DCA or something.

Dunno.

Yeah? The guy is taking two LR's in a 500 point game, am I suppose to go "oh that's cool bro, you do that, I'll take nothing that can dent them!" or something?

>Question is should I finish painting them before selling or should I just sell them as is. Also what method should I use for packaging them if I cant find a buyer at my FLGS?

Do not paint. Unless you are a Eavy metal + painter and actually have mastered every technique out there, your army wont sell. If you do end up selling your models, get a box of standard size and wrap each model with foam of some sort individually. Then, in their foam cocoons, secure them to the box that they are in so they don't shake around during delivery.

Fair enough. I won't say not to do it, they just aren't for me.

>While eating stars it takes the form of a cloud of dark light.
>While eating stars
That aside though, thanks for clearing that up for me.

No problem, just trying to give you something to work with since there isn't any images of the void dragon in existence. It's up to your artistic creativity/ interpretation though.

It could either be like the purple rings you see in artist rendered black holes or it could literally be light that casts shadows instead like that cursed star that is related to best chaos god.

Create the most situational lists.

I would much rather GW updated them, but it's been, what, 15 years? I've given up user.

Alright. Thank you, user.
Thanks for helping spark an idea in my mind, user.

What cursed star is related to a dead chaos god? Is it Sol that Terra revolves around?

Since 3rd edition.

And I know the feeling. My army is shelved for the foreseeable future. Right now my focus is more on writefaggotry.

This. I was super disappointed to see the sculpts. I'm tempted to model the while army ankle deep in mud.

Shouldn't be too hard to fix. I'm sure boots are sold by other companies you can stick on.

Unless it isn't just the boots that piss you off, in which case, there is no point in getting them anyway.

Yeah, I know a few people who writing shit. Guy I know is doing a story set in 50k written by that guy. Last time I did writefaggotry was when /wst/ was a thing.

That was a nice joke.

I can't seem to find much about it anymore, but the Tyrant Star, Komus. It's a black dwarf star that radiates black light.

I swore there was a page on 1d4chan that had theories about it being related to Malal or some shit.

ok well now the issue is that the army is partially painted, say a third

should i try and strip it all or just leave it be

I've written stuff in general on and off for a few years but something about the last BL submission lit a fire under me and I've been working my butt off to improve as well as widen my scope.

Last one I wrote I posted elsewhere. Good description and world building but the dialogue is lacking. Still haven't worked out how to make that better.

Just the boots. Not sold on the helmets either, but I'm hoping they have alternate helmet less heads.

Either way I'm like$200 in.

it's from the rpgs, and was left purposefully vauge.

Strip what you can carefully. Remember that certain chemicals work better for certain materials. Make sure each model you have corresponds with the type of removal method. I don't remember each thing but the different materials you want to look out for is Metal, Resin, and GW's new plastic.

>Remove weapons, or use a single dual weapon (halberds in the kit).
>Somehow change the pose to be floaty instead of dashing forward
>Paint interior skulls, frayed wingbits and spooky ghosts in the classic necron green
>Bone bits need to look like "synthetic" bone, since they're made of Necrodermis
>Paint the logo and armour bits in the colour scheme of the Transcendent C'tan's collar

Good luck and post pics.

Heh. I put enough in for the free shit. I'm not too fussed about the shoes. I keep hoping GW will decide to update SoB now...

The joke was the best Chaos god is a dead one.
Especially malal.

Thanks man, this helps me a lot.

It looked to me like helmets are just masks. The question is if it's a separate bit or if it's molded on. Even if they're molded on, there's still the Statuesque heads. I think they're supposed to a bit big for true scale minis, though.

whats the difference between the old and new plastics for stripping

and the difference between plastics and resin

i dont have any metals

Can you guys fill me in on the formations AM use these days and what books/WD they are in? I've been out of the loop a while and want to make sure I have all the right tools to get back into the hobby.

Is 40k still fun?

I haven't played since 4th, and have some vague sense that people are not as passionate about it as they used to be. Also hearing rumors about other tabletops outselling it of late.

Nonetheless, not coming to this with any bias-- would love to hear thoughts on the current state game from those who play?

I enjoy it but I'm kind of a freak.

Oh shit boy! Is that your army?

>Is 40k still fun?
no.
i'm dead inside.

My two cents: formations are really hurting the game.

GW now gives you bonus rules for taking groups of units together, which sounds great at first until you realize it means a lot of lists get cookie-cuttered. The bonuses are too good to pass up if you want to present any kind of challenge on the table, so armies end up looking very similar. I cant speak for every army, but for those without recent updates it seems to be the case.

List your units and I'll try to give you the best stuff to fit your listing needs.

part of it

You want the Mont'ka book.

Yes, but only if you play with like-minded individuals.

Tier 1: Tau, Eldar, SM, possibly Necrons
Tier 2: Just about everyone else
Tier 3: Orks, CSM, possibly DEldar

Play within your tier with opponents that voluntarily refrain from cheeseing and you'll have fun. Relying on the rulebooks to keep That Guy in line is a recipe for having a bad time.

Stick with 4th.

Honestly given how well the kickstarter did, they'd have to be retarded not to. But wouldn't put any money on GW not acting retarded.

Yeah, honestly not to worried about it a head swap is easy peasy. The battle heels are more of a problem.

Interesting. What armies are hot in the meta these days?

And for you or anyone, to what extent would you recommend someone who used to dig it get back into the hobby?

What do you mean by that?

>he hasn't drilled his barrels

Shit 0/10 wouldn't even accept for free.

New CEO seems to be steering things in a less retarded direction which is good.

I have:

>150 infantry, usually taken as two 50 man-platoons and 1 50-man conscript squad, lots of plasma, priests, and psykers

>3 LRBT of any class, all weapons magnetized so I can swap them out

>12 chiemras

>4 valkyrie/vendettas

>1 vulture

>1 marauder destroyer

>2 wyverns

>like...a lot of heavy weapon teams. I dunno, 60?

>officers and assorted special weapons like sniper teams

>a knight

>3 baneblades

>1 macharius stormlord

>inquisitorial units if I need them

>some sentinels

That's most of it I can think of

40k has never been balanced. No hobby is balanced. Nothing is balanced.

Card games?
Not balanced.

War games?
Not balanced.

Sports Teams?
Not balanced.

Bands?
Not balanced.

Countries?
Not balanced.

Justice Systems?
Not balanced.

Farms?
Not balanced.

Nothing is balanced. Sooner people get that, sooner people will enjoy shit more.

SS:Eldar
S:SM/TAU
A:Necrons/Spacewolves/Admech(After nerf)/CSD/Armoured Battlegroup
B:Mono Knights/Guard/SOB/Grey knights/ Harlequins(ally)
C:Inquisiton(ally)/Tempest(ally)
D:CSM/nids/Orks/Dark Eldar

I agree, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't try to get as close to balanced as you can. Any game that's asymmetrical will never be perfect, doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

If you painted reasonably lightly and feel the paint can be removed without damaging the models, do so. Test your method on a single model before you do the batch.

It's fun if you don't play with WAAC faggots.

SM is solid tier 1 nowadays.
People who play like you. If you are a casual player and meet a group of tournament players, you won't fare well and won't get much fun. Watch some games in close-by FLGSs until you find a playing atmosphere more akin to your taste.

Formations are a great idea let down by lack of equality between them.

But that's my opinion.

>Countries?
>Not balanced.

...but I use MAGNETS. Am I cool yet?

If you're in it to win it...meh.

If you're in it because you love your army, it's still good. I'm almost always at a disadvantage ruleswise when I play, but I don't care because I get to put steel legion models on the table and they get to kill things (not as well as other stuff, but well enough to still be fun).

Im glad they nerfed Spaniards.

The human body?
Not balanced.

Daemons and knights are t1

No, cause you don't use them to their full potential. Like so.

One day, God will buff human bodies. Ants have been OP for too long.

They'll return to their original state one day. I was disappointed the patch that was suppose to update the Russians' mind failed to work. The glitch refuses to let Russians have a mind it seems. I can't remember if the next update will make Turks less treacherous.

Anything other than the Mont'ka book I should look into for AM formations? What about apocalypse formations?

There are basically two games going on, casual 40k and competitive 40k.

Casual 40k is badly balanced but still pretty fun. Even in casual Orks and chaos are shit and will struggle if they don't optimized their lists but other than that it's all around good.
Top armies are Necrons, Eldar and Tau just for how easy it is to build an overwhelming list with them or even accidentally pick an overpowered unit but it's really anybodies game if you play well.

Competitive 40k is a shit fest that doesn't look like 40k at all. HQ and two troop choices is replaced by formations that allow you to take nothing but giant invincible monsters and all kinds of psychic powers fuckery. Lesser lists will get wiped off the board, Orks and Chaos Marines do not exist here.
Top armies are Eldar and Tau with third place hotly contested by Space marines and Chaos Daemons. Necrons do well in casual due to their super durability but lose out in competitive due to not being able to escalate the bullshit like the other races can.

What about us sons of sanguinus?

I cannot find it myself, but there is an older formation that you might like where you have a shadowsword and place Lemanruss tanks around it and then sentinels around them. Instead of the Shadowsword taking damage, you can sacrifice a branch (1 sentinel or a russ) and no further damage from that attack gets carried over.

Now, for a vehicle heavy army I suggest getting a copy (online or physical) of Imperial Armour:volume 1: 2ed. This is a very strong source for your tank needs. special tank characters, super heavy special characters, extra special rules, objective securing tanks, you name it.

Now for your infantry, I would suggest running your Steel Legion as Cadians and using the decurion from Montka. That will give you some newer relics and formations that will boost the performance of your guys.

Aircrafts just got a big overhaul so you will need to pick up a copy of Death from the Skies to play them.

There is a formation that you get from a bundle from the GW store called Battle group HammerBlow:

Requirements: 1 Company Command Squad, 1 Infantry Platoon, 1 Scout Sentinel Squadron, 1 unit of Militarium Tempestus Scions, 1 Valkyrie, 1 Leman Russ Squadron, 1 Baneblade Restrictions: The Infantry Platoon unit must consist of a Platoon Command Squad and 2 – 5 Infantry squads. The Company command squad and all unit in the Infantry platoon must be given Chimeras as dedicated Transports. Special Rules: Advance and Hold: All Infantry units in Battlegroup Hammerblow have the Objective Secure and Stubborn special rules. Close Range Fire Support:

>Cont.
All weapons fired by Battlegroup Hammerblow’s Baneblade and Leman Russ Squadrons have the Twin-Linked special rule as long as the target unit is within 12” of another unit from this formation. Rapid Response: Battlegroup Hammerblow units of Militarium Tempestus Scions must begin the game embarked upon the Valkyrie. Instead of making a normal reserve roll for the formation’s Valkyrie must enter from Deep Strike Reserve, and doesn’t scatter if placed within 12” of this Battlegroup’s Scout Sentinel Squadron Source: Webstore Exclusive: Battlegroup Hammerblow.

Right hand op, plz nerf.

I know this as a leftie. I can do everything bar write well with my right thou.

Be Glad You're Not Merged With Vanilla Tier.

I'm inverse of you. Gaming and cycling built up a fair level of security but I don't have the fine motor control to write well off handed.

But eating I can do. Makes reading, shitposting or scribbling notes to myself easier while stuffing my maw.

It's a relative term, duckfucker.
>It can't be perfect, why give a shit?
Because it can be better, especially in the case of 40k.

You mean the "my Army that was originally a supplement and then a half-assed unsupported codex gets access to all the toys while losing only fluff and is now part of a normal update cycle" Black Templars don't you?

Look I like the Templars and all but get past it, this is better than multiple edition limbo, trust me.

Because its a game and believe it or not
Games stimulate the most enjoyment from mutual parties when they are standing at equal footing

Replace torso with sculpted abs

I have a tournament at my local game shop coming up soon which should be 1850. I play Chaos Space Marines and Chaos Daemons (though I don't have many models for Daemons). I've been losing my games a lot lately. What's the best way to play Chaos?

I'll put you in a nice cozy slot of D+/C-

thanks, I will check all these out

I don't get what the big fuss about CSM being bad is about. I usually rank top of the tourney boards when I play at my local GS. I learned this good luck charm from my uncle who worked around casinos. You take dice of any size and place the one side down onto the pan. Then you set the oven to a temperature of 200-300 degrees depending on the size of the dice and let them sit in there for a couple minutes. I do this every time before playing any match and I always seem to do well. They are probably more broken then eldar probably.