Game of Thrones Alignment/Class thread

I really hate doing this to you guys, but I must.

>Game of Thrones Classes/Alignments

I'll start.

John Snow
Ranger
Lawful Good --recent alignment change--> Chaotic Good

Brienne
Lawful good paladin

Jon Snow is Lawful Neutral as Lord Commander and Neutral as of the most recent episode.

> Brienne
> Good

No. No. No. She is Neutral Evil. She is only concerned with killing King Stannis.

He became chaotic the moment he killed his commander for show (for the greater good) and broke his vow by boning that wildling chick.

How is he neutral, and not good? He goes out of his way to be 100% altruistic. Saving all those wildlings was in no way self serving.

If Brienne was good, or even neutral, she could see why Stannis had to kill Renly. The idea that she sentenced Stannis to die in the name of his younger, traitorous brother is crazy.

Having one minor slip up isn't enough to make him chaotic. In fact, Sam points out there is nothing in their vows that requires them to be celibate. Killing Slynt was a lawful action as he betrayed their order.

If she was a paladin, Stannis used satan magic to do it so that was punishable.

Speaking of Stannis

>King Stannis Baratheon
>Fighter
>Lawful Neutral

As the WotC writer who is single handely responsible for bringing back the original, unsimplified alignments from the 2008 debacle, all I can say is,

You all fundamentally misunderstand alignments.

>Saving all those wildlings was in no way self serving.
Yes it was. Double.
Less dead to fight later.
More manpower to fight with later.

Why didn't she kill The Red Woman, then? Or Jon Snow? Also, she sides with Renly, an oathbreaker. She only cares about herself.

How's the live on walfare

Because D&D are hacks

Exactly. Ned Stark's bastard sides with life over death. But that is all.

GRRM: NE.

Given. But Brienne the Beauty isn't Good. Or Lawful.

King Stannis Baratheon was Neutral Good.

>killed his commander for show (for the greater good)

He was literally following orders

>broke his vow by boning that wildling chick
The vows say he can't marry, have lands, or father children. Boning a wildling doesn't violate any of that

>Saving all those wildlings was in no way self serving.

He literally explains to other characters that he's letting the wildlings over so they can man the other garrisons and so there will be less wights for them to have to fight (since the wights would kill and raise the wildlings)

Jon did nothing wrong

Except he did not side with Stannis. The one true king.

Him using them for manpower instead of sending them all to settle and defend the other Castles don't disproves your point, but proves mine

>The Watch
>Choosing a side in a conflict

u wot?

The Mountain
Blackguard
Lawful Evil

Possible Racial Change: Flesh Golem

But he did choose a side in the last episode.

The Hound
Fighter
True Neutral

Sorry, but I beg to differ, she is Lawful as fuck.
She keeps her oath even when the one she was sworn die, mostly by carring justice in their name/following their last order.
Hell, she even deliver justice to Stannis himself, who accept it. Plus she is quite formal when dealing with oath matter.

If you faggots know so much about nerd facts, why don't you propose a character class/alignment and let people tear apart your shoddy logic?

>using a shadow demon to kill his own brother, which is assassination
>burning his own daughter to death to win a battle

top kek

Lawful evil is what he is. He had the best legal claim to the throne sure, but getting it with blood magic sacrifices and assassination?

Exactly, Brienne isn't lawful otherwise she wouldn't kill Stannis for killing his traitorous younger brother who should've been second in line to the throne. Either chaotic good or chaotic neutral.

If they had follow the books she would be dead and no where to be around when Stannks was executed

There is no such thing as 'Good' in Game of Thrones because GRRM is a myopic misanthrope who believes that 'realism' means 'everyone is a selfish dick, all the time'.
There is also no such thing as 'lawful' because, according to GRRM's writings up to this point no 'real' person would ever devote themselves to a code of honour or the law and then actually uphold said code of honour/law.
Therefore, everyone in Game of Thrones is either True Neutral, Chaotic Neutral, Neutral Evil, or Chaotic Evil.

>Believes her king to be the rightful one and slays his murderer
>EBIL

Gandalf
Magician
Lawful Good

OP
Female Sorceress
Fag - (recently) -> mega fag wad

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Eddard Stark
LN Fighter

Jamie Lannister
NE turned TN Fighter

Tyrion Lannister
TN Expert

>low hanging fruit: the baitpost

>implying Ned isn't lawful good

Actually, I think Jaime might be a decent example of a CN character that isn't LOL RANDUMB. He's pretty clearly neutral, but he does a lot of things that are actively detrimental to himself and others completely out of spite.

Hell, the fact that Ned is Lawful Good is why everything went to shit for the Starks.

That, and inbreeding.

It didn't go to shit because of he's good. If Ned had sent literally anybody else to bribe the goldcloaks than Littlefinger, he would have won right then.

are those ''just fuck my shit up'' eyes?

Jon is a Neutral Good character in charge of a Lawful Neutral faction, and that's why they kill him. His decisions are for the survival of mankind, though they may not turn out to be particularly wise.

Tyrion and Jaime are both True Neutral. They have the occasional moment of kindness or assholery, but they never really take a strong stand for or against the common good. Mostly they just go along with whatever their family is doing. Then Tyrion snaps and spends the rest of the series being a sad sack who fucks around with lost Targaryens. Jaime grows into a more independant person, but is still firmly grey.

Dany is kind of all over the place: She casually defies every law or tradition of any place she goes, but is very hangup on her own birthright. And her attempts at helping the people are so confused she destroys as much as she help, and her ultimate argument is always "muh dragons". I'd go with the most unpleasant flavor of Chaotic Good.

Arya is either Chaotic Neutral or True Neutral, it's hard to tell given that her focus on survival doesn't give her a lot of leeway.

Cersei is Neutral Evil. "Power is power". She doesn't give a fuck about the family legacy the way her father did, her priority is protecting her kid and living vicariously through them. She grows more erratic in the latter books, but that has more to do with mental illness than with a Chaotic bent.

Book!Brienne is Lawful Good. Show!Brienne is probably Neutral Good, a Lawful character would never call Renly "rightful" anything.

Bran is True Neutral. His concerns are that of an unhappy child, and he comes to do increasingly fucked up things without realizing the ethical implications.

Lets play...

Dany - Lawfull Evil - Yes, she is evil, she dont give a fuck to killing a lot of people and put them on cross, she dont give a fuck about killing her own brother, she dont give a fuck to be on a genocide barbarian horde... She is against slavery and she would never harm their own people but this is not about being good. She just do what she think its right. She think she is good... She think that pillage and killing is not as much as bad as slavery. She is wrong.

Tyrion - Previously Lawful Good, now Chaotic Neutral - If your father is evil and if he wants to kill you.. Killing him will not make you neutral or evil. Ok, Tyrion now is saying a lot of nasty things (on books), he will invade westeros, rape his own sister, bla blah... so far its only talk.. WHEN he does that he will be evil, so far he is just pissed, he dindt crossed the line yet. Doing evil things make you evil.But planning chaotic things, well, I think this is enough to print him as a chaotic

Jaime - Chaotic Neutral all the way.

Jon - STILL Lawfull Good - Yes, Jon banged a wildling and blahblah... The thing about alingment is that one or two fails is not necessarily what will make your alignment change, not necessarily. Being chaste is one of the most ignored laws of the night watch, the commanders dindt even give a fuck about that. If he was a cleric on a D&D campaign where his god was a fag like that, maybe... but here it just dont matter. Jon is naive, he even tried to keep his vows for a law that almost none of his brothers even care. And he abandoned a faction that killed him? Of course he would do, everyone would do that... doing that will not change his alignment as well... People think that alignment is a mandatory law, its not, if a character pushs to hard on common sense to make the alignment valid then it is just a bad character.

No alignments at all since ASoIaF is definitely a GURPS game

>2016
>Alignments
>Classes

I'm surprised nobody has called Ramsey chaotic evil yet, it seems like an obvious one.

Ramsay did nothing wrong. You're just mad he killed and/or raped your waifu

Bullshit, it's Riddle of Steel

> not chaotic neutral
Fuck the king

>King has yet to be fucked
>Cleganebowl confirmed?

Rob Stark Neutral Good
Tywin Lannister Lawful Evil
Petyr Baelish Neuteal Evil

That's the glory of Martin's writing. It captures the essence of the world in that there are no true evils, no true goods and NO neutrals.

>implying Joffery,Cersei and Daenerys aren't the worse

No there are good people, they just have a tendancy to die (see Ned, Robb, ect) or get beaten into the ground until they are good no longer (show stannis on burning shireen). Same thing for lawful characters.

I'm still mad Briene executed him

the show is pretty much regular hollywood tripe. Its watchable for the memes.

All true neutral except Melissandre who is Lawful Evil.

>Jeb and Theon
Amazing.

>The Mountain that rides
>Lawful

You havin' a giggle there m8?